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		<title>By: Drew</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Aug 2022 13:40:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Passive suicide]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Passive suicide</p>
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		<title>By: Pylgrim</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Aug 2022 11:01:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Let&#039;s also remember that relationships in the past had two components that are greatly diminished (for better or worse: in the present: First, it was much more affordable and possible for young people in love to cement their relationship with the purchase of a home together. That both made their lives easier (which often conflates in having more time to invest in a relationship) and increased the number of things they had in common. Second, there was much more religious and social pressure for married couples to stay together, again, for better or worse.

Young people nowadays cannot possibly dream of affording a home. That means that they grow older by themselves, developing their own personalities and interests on their own which makes them pickier (and as you mention, also unwilling to put the effort to commit to a person that is going to need lots of &quot;work&quot; after spending a few months with them).

I do feel that it&#039;s not all good, though. Yes, we&#039;re greatly diminishing the number of miserable marriages (which affected women disproportionally as they used to have less financial mobility so they had to &quot;put up&quot; with more for their survival) but I think it&#039;s also making people give up on one another too easily or get too picky. Yes, we don&#039;t have to tolerate assholery or waste our time with people who are not worth it. We don&#039;t owe anything to anybody. But also... nobody is perfect. Learning to put up with minor differences, growing up together and becoming better for each other is possible... but some perseverance, effort, and love (the act of will, not the fickle emotion) are necessary.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let&#8217;s also remember that relationships in the past had two components that are greatly diminished (for better or worse: in the present: First, it was much more affordable and possible for young people in love to cement their relationship with the purchase of a home together. That both made their lives easier (which often conflates in having more time to invest in a relationship) and increased the number of things they had in common. Second, there was much more religious and social pressure for married couples to stay together, again, for better or worse.</p>
<p>Young people nowadays cannot possibly dream of affording a home. That means that they grow older by themselves, developing their own personalities and interests on their own which makes them pickier (and as you mention, also unwilling to put the effort to commit to a person that is going to need lots of &#8220;work&#8221; after spending a few months with them).</p>
<p>I do feel that it&#8217;s not all good, though. Yes, we&#8217;re greatly diminishing the number of miserable marriages (which affected women disproportionally as they used to have less financial mobility so they had to &#8220;put up&#8221; with more for their survival) but I think it&#8217;s also making people give up on one another too easily or get too picky. Yes, we don&#8217;t have to tolerate assholery or waste our time with people who are not worth it. We don&#8217;t owe anything to anybody. But also&#8230; nobody is perfect. Learning to put up with minor differences, growing up together and becoming better for each other is possible&#8230; but some perseverance, effort, and love (the act of will, not the fickle emotion) are necessary.</p>
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		<title>By: lp</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Aug 2022 02:27:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Somebody reads bitter.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Somebody reads bitter.</p>
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		<title>By: Zak McKracken</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Zak McKracken]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Aug 2022 19:58:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[...also: Finding the one person for life is still a life goal for most millennials. I&#039;ve seen a lot more variety in the strategy to achieve this, though, and there seem to be loads of people who believe that *trying* enough people out would help them find the &quot;right&quot; person, or believing in the &quot;happily everafter&quot; narrative which says you can stop paying attention as soon as both partners are committed .... much of which have been picked up from older generations, who could rely on their partner to stay, almost no matter how badly they&#039;d screw up. These days, you actually need to try and make things work in a way that everyone involved enjoys, and that&#039;s harder, but it&#039;s also way nicer when it does work (as I can attest myself :)

My impression: possibly fewer truly long-term relation (though more than you might think), but much happier ones. I think the longing for a partner who actually understands you and stays with you for life is way more than a cultural pattern and is not going to go away anytime soon.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;also: Finding the one person for life is still a life goal for most millennials. I&#8217;ve seen a lot more variety in the strategy to achieve this, though, and there seem to be loads of people who believe that *trying* enough people out would help them find the &#8220;right&#8221; person, or believing in the &#8220;happily everafter&#8221; narrative which says you can stop paying attention as soon as both partners are committed &#8230;. much of which have been picked up from older generations, who could rely on their partner to stay, almost no matter how badly they&#8217;d screw up. These days, you actually need to try and make things work in a way that everyone involved enjoys, and that&#8217;s harder, but it&#8217;s also way nicer when it does work (as I can attest myself :)</p>
<p>My impression: possibly fewer truly long-term relation (though more than you might think), but much happier ones. I think the longing for a partner who actually understands you and stays with you for life is way more than a cultural pattern and is not going to go away anytime soon.</p>
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		<title>By: Zak McKracken</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Zak McKracken]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Aug 2022 16:53:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[That&#039;s a little unfair towards Gen X. In the olden days finding a partner (and being reliable towards them) was a necessity of life because staying alone meant a much harder life. That ethos survived some time past its necessity, but it also included not being to picky about who you choose as your partner, and accepting that you&#039;d have to tolerate a lot of what they&#039;re up to.

These days, people do separate easier, and it makes for a lot less abuse and psychological warfare among partners, which is good, while also inviting *some* people to avoid committing anything to a relationship, which I guess is unavoidable. But none of this means that couples who&#039;ve been together for a while, and still happy with each other were any less faithful towards each other. In fact, I would claim that makes it more probable that any couple which has stayed together for a few years and adapted to each other actually honestly starts sticking together like glue, independent of whether that&#039;s expected by society or not.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s a little unfair towards Gen X. In the olden days finding a partner (and being reliable towards them) was a necessity of life because staying alone meant a much harder life. That ethos survived some time past its necessity, but it also included not being to picky about who you choose as your partner, and accepting that you&#8217;d have to tolerate a lot of what they&#8217;re up to.</p>
<p>These days, people do separate easier, and it makes for a lot less abuse and psychological warfare among partners, which is good, while also inviting *some* people to avoid committing anything to a relationship, which I guess is unavoidable. But none of this means that couples who&#8217;ve been together for a while, and still happy with each other were any less faithful towards each other. In fact, I would claim that makes it more probable that any couple which has stayed together for a few years and adapted to each other actually honestly starts sticking together like glue, independent of whether that&#8217;s expected by society or not.</p>
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