Comments on: Chapter 22 – Page 1

By: SotiCoto

SotiCoto — Tue, 18 Feb 2014 09:47:35 +0000

Bird wings and bat wings, friend. I have no interest in the Hegel fellow. If anything I’m saying reminds you of such, it is mere coincidence.
Reason is founded in the physical because our access to and use of reason is a direct product of the workings of the physical world. It is an adaptation made TO the world in order to enable working more effectively WITH the world. To say reality IS reason is as to say D&D IS the Player’s Handbook.

As regards my comment about ethics… see sense or don’t as suits you. If you don’t tell me precisely what troubles you, I don’t have much hope of clarifying.
It is also easy to doubt anything… fact or otherwise. So what? =p … You want me to explain why I’m so certain war will happen? You want me to justify why I call it fact? … Ask.
I ain’t obligated to show my workings up-front.

Anyhow, I know what ethics is / are for. More importantly, I know they’re not for me. They needn’t be for anyone… but fat lot of good trying to enforce THAT would do. I have no interest in “positions” that are artificially constructed so as to create the illusion of their importance.

tl;dr: You disagree with me, fail to explain the nature of your disagreement, and name-drop a lot of uninvolved (and in some cases dead) people. We’re clearly not playing the same game here. Surprised you didn’t get that from how hella informal I am.

By: Benedikt

Benedikt — Mon, 01 Jul 2013 11:38:20 +0000

“Reason is founded in the physical.” For clarification: In which sense do you use the word “founded” here?
My guess would be, that you use a kind of Hegelian argument here: “Whatever is real is rational, and whatever is rational is real.” (Phenomenology of the mind) If you are, you misinterpret Hegel. (Reality IS reason for him, reason isn’t just founded in reality. I wouldn’t even follow Hegel anyway…) If you aren’t I’m still curious to the meaning of your words.

“Ethics are just a twisted mess of ideas taken on independent existence.” – I don’t think these words make much sense. Later on you’re begging the question: “Fact is : War is gonna happen.” It’s easy to doubt this “fact”…

If one would go into a philosophical discussion on our premises, one should consider positions in which ethic(s) is (are) predominantly important – I’m thinking of Levinas here.

tl;dr: You seem to be begging the question. See for example Susan Neiman on Thrasymachos (Platon Politeia) oder Callicles (Gorgias) for confutation.

By: SotiCoto

SotiCoto — Fri, 28 Jun 2013 11:56:38 +0000

(becomes more inevitable the more people)

… I wonder where my mind goes sometimes when I leave words out of sentences.

By: SotiCoto

SotiCoto — Fri, 28 Jun 2013 11:55:36 +0000

Trying to put “reason” and “ethical” together was your major mistake there.
Reason is founded in the physical. The way things are.
Ethics are just a twisted mess of ideas taken on independent existence.
Ethics aren’t based on reason, and reason isn’t dependent on ethics.

Not to say I agree with Kenny back there precisely… but conflict becomes more people one presses to live within the same domain. Mutually exclusive ideals, competition for resources, the works. The more of this you try to shove into one area, the more likely it is for shit to hit the fan, for one group to try to take by force what they need from another group… and vice versa.
Same way if you shove molecules and stuff together enough, it gets hot… The Earth’s core being the classic example.

Fact is : War is gonna happen. People make more people, and eventually they kill other people to make up for it… cos the world can only handle so much. “Legitimacy” is irrelevant. Ethics are irrelevant. QQing about death is irrelevant.
People want less death? People gotta stop fucking. Plain as.

By: SotiCoto

SotiCoto — Fri, 28 Jun 2013 11:25:41 +0000

Humans pretty much devalued themselves years ago.
In fact, given that humans still consume at the same rate or higher, while each contributing less in return… they really have become a liability.

Every war effectively improves the world by ridding it of humans.