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		<title>By: SotiCoto</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Aug 2019 12:28:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[From a certain standpoint, nothing that can ever be done by a living being could ever be &quot;unnatural&quot;. 
It is somewhat amusing to see people make the old naturalistic fallacy, but I guess what they&#039;re really trying to get at is that a certain line of behaviour follows as some sort of default setting that effectively undertakes itself without effort applied specifically to change it.  And I suppose within that context and definition, it can technically be true...   if still useless for justifying anything.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From a certain standpoint, nothing that can ever be done by a living being could ever be &#8220;unnatural&#8221;.<br />
It is somewhat amusing to see people make the old naturalistic fallacy, but I guess what they&#8217;re really trying to get at is that a certain line of behaviour follows as some sort of default setting that effectively undertakes itself without effort applied specifically to change it.  And I suppose within that context and definition, it can technically be true&#8230;   if still useless for justifying anything.</p>
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		<title>By: Cory C.</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Nov 2017 21:19:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[While I agree that humanity has done much to mitigate certain &quot;natural&quot; pressures acting upon it, and should continue to do so, studies have shown that a great deal of behavior (seemingly the majority) it determined by genetics. I am also curious if, by your comments, it is safe to assume that you believe in the existence of free will?

Twin studies (separated at a young age/at birth), dog breeding, and fox breeding studies have shown that things such as docility/aggressiveness have genetics as a major contributor (actually the primary contributor, but reasonably discussing such a controversial topic doesn&#039;t seem fit for a comment section of a webcomic).
While a &quot;conflict gene&quot; is perhaps a gross oversimplification, certain genes deal with certain behavior. On a cellular level, this can deal with how reaction cascades from certain environmental stimuli proceed. Genes can influence things such as spatial organization and cross-talk of certain enzymes. Such cellular organization can influence intercellular communication, such as between neurons. If the cellular level seems unconvincing due to it being an individual cell or a colony of identical (or near identical) cells, then there is the genetic influence upon how an organism develops, particularly it&#039;s brain. Genetic influences upon such things as autism, basically genes affecting the wiring of the brain, can cause differences in behavior, no? There is also the genetics behind the development of the brain between different taxa, does this not influence behavior?

I agree that certain people use arguments of &quot;nature&quot; to protect their &quot;status quo,&quot; but they often seem to have certain gaps in their understanding or work upon unsupported presuppositions. Humanity should continue to move past certain &quot;wild&quot; limitations. But simply ignoring (or bashing) the evidence for something doesn&#039;t mean it&#039;s just going to go away, and how it works will fall within your lines of thinking. Also, &quot;stupidity&quot;? While there are people who do argue without much backing, dismissing an entire line of thought (without much backing) is not conducive to reasonable discourse.

From what you say about how you &quot;read stuff,&quot; along with what you say from it, I&#039;ll guess that it&#039;s more of people talking about &quot;science,&quot; rather than people talking about scientific principles or the accounts of the evidence for principles themselves.

@ Gabi (or anyone who wants to read this, I suppose): While things worded well can be quite helpful, please keep in mind that we should first look to what is said, not how it is said.
If you would like to read further on the subject of genetic influence upon behavior, I would suggest reading up on the breeding of foxes in the Soviet Union. &quot;Fun&quot; thing about it is that they were actually doing it while giving false pretexts to the Soviet Union, stating that it was just raising them for fur. This was due to Lysenkoism holding sway in the political climate, causing some to even die for studying Mendelian genetics (like Nikolai Vavilov). But now we have learned a great deal about genetics, behavior, and genetic linkages (regarding traits that are linked by virtue of spatial relation if not direct influence). An added bonus is that the docile breeds of foxes can be purchased as Pets!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While I agree that humanity has done much to mitigate certain &#8220;natural&#8221; pressures acting upon it, and should continue to do so, studies have shown that a great deal of behavior (seemingly the majority) it determined by genetics. I am also curious if, by your comments, it is safe to assume that you believe in the existence of free will?</p>
<p>Twin studies (separated at a young age/at birth), dog breeding, and fox breeding studies have shown that things such as docility/aggressiveness have genetics as a major contributor (actually the primary contributor, but reasonably discussing such a controversial topic doesn&#8217;t seem fit for a comment section of a webcomic).<br />
While a &#8220;conflict gene&#8221; is perhaps a gross oversimplification, certain genes deal with certain behavior. On a cellular level, this can deal with how reaction cascades from certain environmental stimuli proceed. Genes can influence things such as spatial organization and cross-talk of certain enzymes. Such cellular organization can influence intercellular communication, such as between neurons. If the cellular level seems unconvincing due to it being an individual cell or a colony of identical (or near identical) cells, then there is the genetic influence upon how an organism develops, particularly it&#8217;s brain. Genetic influences upon such things as autism, basically genes affecting the wiring of the brain, can cause differences in behavior, no? There is also the genetics behind the development of the brain between different taxa, does this not influence behavior?</p>
<p>I agree that certain people use arguments of &#8220;nature&#8221; to protect their &#8220;status quo,&#8221; but they often seem to have certain gaps in their understanding or work upon unsupported presuppositions. Humanity should continue to move past certain &#8220;wild&#8221; limitations. But simply ignoring (or bashing) the evidence for something doesn&#8217;t mean it&#8217;s just going to go away, and how it works will fall within your lines of thinking. Also, &#8220;stupidity&#8221;? While there are people who do argue without much backing, dismissing an entire line of thought (without much backing) is not conducive to reasonable discourse.</p>
<p>From what you say about how you &#8220;read stuff,&#8221; along with what you say from it, I&#8217;ll guess that it&#8217;s more of people talking about &#8220;science,&#8221; rather than people talking about scientific principles or the accounts of the evidence for principles themselves.</p>
<p>@ Gabi (or anyone who wants to read this, I suppose): While things worded well can be quite helpful, please keep in mind that we should first look to what is said, not how it is said.<br />
If you would like to read further on the subject of genetic influence upon behavior, I would suggest reading up on the breeding of foxes in the Soviet Union. &#8220;Fun&#8221; thing about it is that they were actually doing it while giving false pretexts to the Soviet Union, stating that it was just raising them for fur. This was due to Lysenkoism holding sway in the political climate, causing some to even die for studying Mendelian genetics (like Nikolai Vavilov). But now we have learned a great deal about genetics, behavior, and genetic linkages (regarding traits that are linked by virtue of spatial relation if not direct influence). An added bonus is that the docile breeds of foxes can be purchased as Pets!</p>
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		<title>By: Swagner</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Swagner]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Nov 2017 19:13:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Have you never once been distracted while driving? Operated a tool without full safety gear? Taken a medication without researching all possible side effects? Negligence is, by definition, easy.
You claim that you don&#039;t want others in positions of &quot;power&quot;, but fail to comprehend how omnipresent power &lt;i&gt;is&lt;/i&gt;. A car exerts thousands, even millions, of times the force that a gun does: just look at the truck attacks throughout Europe to see how easy it is to convert that violent ends. The currents flowing through the walls of your house are more than sufficient to electrocute. Bombs are easy to make; so are guns, when it comes right down to it (google the phrase &quot;Table Leg Typewriter&quot; if you want to see just how easy a felony is). If &quot;most people have zero business&quot; with power, then you should have &lt;i&gt;much&lt;/i&gt; higher priorities, especially if accidents, not malice, are the justification you use.
Don&#039;t run from the power offered to you and then complain when you&#039;re at the mercy of those who didn&#039;t.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have you never once been distracted while driving? Operated a tool without full safety gear? Taken a medication without researching all possible side effects? Negligence is, by definition, easy.<br />
You claim that you don&#8217;t want others in positions of &#8220;power&#8221;, but fail to comprehend how omnipresent power <i>is</i>. A car exerts thousands, even millions, of times the force that a gun does: just look at the truck attacks throughout Europe to see how easy it is to convert that violent ends. The currents flowing through the walls of your house are more than sufficient to electrocute. Bombs are easy to make; so are guns, when it comes right down to it (google the phrase &#8220;Table Leg Typewriter&#8221; if you want to see just how easy a felony is). If &#8220;most people have zero business&#8221; with power, then you should have <i>much</i> higher priorities, especially if accidents, not malice, are the justification you use.<br />
Don&#8217;t run from the power offered to you and then complain when you&#8217;re at the mercy of those who didn&#8217;t.</p>
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		<title>By: Swagner</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Swagner]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Nov 2017 18:55:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You might consider physical reprisal to be the best deterrent on an individual level: it&#039;s the only one of those options (police, social, etc.) that &lt;i&gt;can&lt;/i&gt; be effectively enacted by an individual.
If anything, it&#039;s probably more effective today than ever for the disadvantaged: as a fraction of a person&#039;s buying power, a gun is far cheaper than a sword and/or armor were in their heyday, and &quot;being the biggest and strongest&quot; has &lt;i&gt;never&lt;/i&gt; been an option for most of the population.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You might consider physical reprisal to be the best deterrent on an individual level: it&#8217;s the only one of those options (police, social, etc.) that <i>can</i> be effectively enacted by an individual.<br />
If anything, it&#8217;s probably more effective today than ever for the disadvantaged: as a fraction of a person&#8217;s buying power, a gun is far cheaper than a sword and/or armor were in their heyday, and &#8220;being the biggest and strongest&#8221; has <i>never</i> been an option for most of the population.</p>
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		<title>By: Ved</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Nov 2017 05:14:37 +0000</pubDate>
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