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		<title>By: TachyonCode</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Sep 2019 14:19:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[My experience of the past 30 or so years has led me to believe that the level of investigation you do should be proportional to the level of your participation in society, and not (primarily, at least) based on the desire to win arguments.

In other words, my takeaway has been that if you aren&#039;t going to do at least &lt;i&gt;some&lt;/i&gt; of your own research, you shouldn&#039;t be voting (let alone running for office), and you &lt;i&gt;definitely&lt;/i&gt; shouldn&#039;t be making arguments. (Corollary: you shouldn&#039;t even be boosting &lt;i&gt;other people&#039;s&lt;/i&gt; arguments, no matter how much you may personally like them.)

Bringing this back around to the topic of your post: The people in your second category don&#039;t usually do their own research, but they do, necessarily, think that talking to their peers and evaluating their reasoning is valuable.

The problem tends to be that they don&#039;t know how bad they are at evaluating &lt;i&gt;anyone&#039;s&lt;/i&gt; reasoning.

So, wondering which topics you have faulty information on is a good start when it comes to not being &lt;i&gt;those people&lt;/i&gt;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My experience of the past 30 or so years has led me to believe that the level of investigation you do should be proportional to the level of your participation in society, and not (primarily, at least) based on the desire to win arguments.</p>
<p>In other words, my takeaway has been that if you aren&#8217;t going to do at least <i>some</i> of your own research, you shouldn&#8217;t be voting (let alone running for office), and you <i>definitely</i> shouldn&#8217;t be making arguments. (Corollary: you shouldn&#8217;t even be boosting <i>other people&#8217;s</i> arguments, no matter how much you may personally like them.)</p>
<p>Bringing this back around to the topic of your post: The people in your second category don&#8217;t usually do their own research, but they do, necessarily, think that talking to their peers and evaluating their reasoning is valuable.</p>
<p>The problem tends to be that they don&#8217;t know how bad they are at evaluating <i>anyone&#8217;s</i> reasoning.</p>
<p>So, wondering which topics you have faulty information on is a good start when it comes to not being <i>those people</i>.</p>
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		<title>By: Charlie Spencer</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Sep 2019 11:46:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[SamKlem&#039;Ns.  Love it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SamKlem&#8217;Ns.  Love it.</p>
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		<title>By: Inwoods</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Sep 2019 11:28:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Telegraph though.  https://civilization.fandom.com/wiki/Telegraph_(Civ5)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Telegraph though.  <a href="https://civilization.fandom.com/wiki/Telegraph_(Civ5)" rel="nofollow">https://civilization.fandom.com/wiki/Telegraph_(Civ5)</a></p>
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		<title>By: yeah</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[yeah]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Sep 2019 10:22:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[That must have been from a mod; there was no Telegram tech in Civilization 5.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That must have been from a mod; there was no Telegram tech in Civilization 5.</p>
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		<title>By: Athaic</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Sep 2019 06:21:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;Blockquote&gt;They hold their ignorance to be as valuable as your intelligence.&lt;/Blockquote&gt;

We have quite a few people like this IRL...
Actually, a good number of people we disagree with - at least, I would disagree with - have faulty information on one topic or another. Out of frustration, I may resent them for not listening to arguments from my side, but at least the issue could be framed as &quot;they hold their intelligence as valuable/more valuable than our intelligence&quot;.
Makes me wonder which topics I have faulty information on.

OTOH, there are people who like to go around claiming how their opponents are &quot;over-educated&quot;, and more generally are going out of their way to stay ignorant. To put the quoted sentence another way, these people value their &lt;i&gt;opinion&lt;/i&gt; as more valuable than your facts.
Those... yikes. 

Avoid them. Use spears if necessary.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>They hold their ignorance to be as valuable as your intelligence.</p></blockquote>
<p>We have quite a few people like this IRL&#8230;<br />
Actually, a good number of people we disagree with &#8211; at least, I would disagree with &#8211; have faulty information on one topic or another. Out of frustration, I may resent them for not listening to arguments from my side, but at least the issue could be framed as &#8220;they hold their intelligence as valuable/more valuable than our intelligence&#8221;.<br />
Makes me wonder which topics I have faulty information on.</p>
<p>OTOH, there are people who like to go around claiming how their opponents are &#8220;over-educated&#8221;, and more generally are going out of their way to stay ignorant. To put the quoted sentence another way, these people value their <i>opinion</i> as more valuable than your facts.<br />
Those&#8230; yikes. </p>
<p>Avoid them. Use spears if necessary.</p>
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