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		<title>By: Zak McKracken</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Dec 2021 00:03:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I wouldn&#039;t want to start debating the finer parts of whether the organisation or its members are to blame for any transgression. At some point, it becomes indistinguishable (would an individual join the organisation if the transgressions were a problem for them?). I personally know people who joined some christian sect, and then threw all their weight behind their worst ideas. As I can see it, it gave them an excuse to give way to impulses they&#039;ve always had, but only now had found some way to sell them as acceptable, nay, necessary.

But then you might argue that those impulses may have been seeded by organisations, and you would be at least partially right. Which is why I&#039;m saying &quot;Christianity&quot;, and not &quot;the church&quot; or &quot;Christians&quot; because at some point things become part of the culture, and then everyone, including leadership, stops questioning them (or doesn&#039;t even start).

Every human has contradictions in their ethical/moral view of the world. It&#039;s unavoidable. Any system of belief that tells you that you can be free of those contradictions is actually just helping you mask them, which creates space for bad things. Even independent of religion -- there is no culture which doesn&#039;t have some questionable things in its past and/or present. It&#039;s the old in-group/out-group problem, and it&#039;s not going to go away.

All of which is of course also *not* to say there weren&#039;t some cultures/groups/organizations/whatever which I consider a lot more/less ethical than others, and that there weren&#039;t Christian groups of which I have a good opinion. 

But: Whether your particular group is Christian, Muslim, Hindu, Buddhist or Pastafarian -- all that does it provide a reference frame for speaking and thinking about things, and within each of those religions, there are (groups of) aimless idiots, blind followers, dangerous zealots, haters, as well as heroes and humans which genuinely make the world a better place for everyone. Some are even several of these simultaneously.
To me, that means that, despite all the rhetoric about good and evil, religion is effectively value-neutral. What ultimately matters is what you make of it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wouldn&#8217;t want to start debating the finer parts of whether the organisation or its members are to blame for any transgression. At some point, it becomes indistinguishable (would an individual join the organisation if the transgressions were a problem for them?). I personally know people who joined some christian sect, and then threw all their weight behind their worst ideas. As I can see it, it gave them an excuse to give way to impulses they&#8217;ve always had, but only now had found some way to sell them as acceptable, nay, necessary.</p>
<p>But then you might argue that those impulses may have been seeded by organisations, and you would be at least partially right. Which is why I&#8217;m saying &#8220;Christianity&#8221;, and not &#8220;the church&#8221; or &#8220;Christians&#8221; because at some point things become part of the culture, and then everyone, including leadership, stops questioning them (or doesn&#8217;t even start).</p>
<p>Every human has contradictions in their ethical/moral view of the world. It&#8217;s unavoidable. Any system of belief that tells you that you can be free of those contradictions is actually just helping you mask them, which creates space for bad things. Even independent of religion &#8212; there is no culture which doesn&#8217;t have some questionable things in its past and/or present. It&#8217;s the old in-group/out-group problem, and it&#8217;s not going to go away.</p>
<p>All of which is of course also *not* to say there weren&#8217;t some cultures/groups/organizations/whatever which I consider a lot more/less ethical than others, and that there weren&#8217;t Christian groups of which I have a good opinion. </p>
<p>But: Whether your particular group is Christian, Muslim, Hindu, Buddhist or Pastafarian &#8212; all that does it provide a reference frame for speaking and thinking about things, and within each of those religions, there are (groups of) aimless idiots, blind followers, dangerous zealots, haters, as well as heroes and humans which genuinely make the world a better place for everyone. Some are even several of these simultaneously.<br />
To me, that means that, despite all the rhetoric about good and evil, religion is effectively value-neutral. What ultimately matters is what you make of it.</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Dec 2021 11:37:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also, terrific decorative value! Greatly enhances the atmosphere of your room!</p>
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		<title>By: Andreas</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Dec 2021 10:07:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Internet Atheism has constructed a just-so-story about how religion is inherently evil, and admittedly, authoritarian sects keep trying to prove them right.

In reality, though, the reasons for wars is almost always political. And by political, I mean economic.
Same with crime.
Religion is sometimes sprinkled on top, but the motivation is something else, and religion tends to be just sprinkles on top.

Some people need religion. I don&#039;t, but I recognize that they do.
Some people need community. Everybody does.
There&#039;s nothing inherently bad about combining those two... it&#039;s grasping for political power from that basis that is harmful.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Internet Atheism has constructed a just-so-story about how religion is inherently evil, and admittedly, authoritarian sects keep trying to prove them right.</p>
<p>In reality, though, the reasons for wars is almost always political. And by political, I mean economic.<br />
Same with crime.<br />
Religion is sometimes sprinkled on top, but the motivation is something else, and religion tends to be just sprinkles on top.</p>
<p>Some people need religion. I don&#8217;t, but I recognize that they do.<br />
Some people need community. Everybody does.<br />
There&#8217;s nothing inherently bad about combining those two&#8230; it&#8217;s grasping for political power from that basis that is harmful.</p>
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		<title>By: Andreas</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Andreas]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Dec 2021 10:03:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As I recall, in Basic DnD : Gnolls were the product of a sorcerous transmutation of gnome corpses with a drop of troll blood.

Ah, found a link : http://pandius.com/gnllmyst.html]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As I recall, in Basic DnD : Gnolls were the product of a sorcerous transmutation of gnome corpses with a drop of troll blood.</p>
<p>Ah, found a link : <a href="http://pandius.com/gnllmyst.html" rel="nofollow">http://pandius.com/gnllmyst.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Arillius</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Dec 2021 07:15:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[For the longest time the Church was very much against Witch Hunts, actually, and the worst of them tended to be propagated by small communities irrespective of organized religion. Sorry, but Witch Hunts are definitely not quite how you&#039;re portraying them.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For the longest time the Church was very much against Witch Hunts, actually, and the worst of them tended to be propagated by small communities irrespective of organized religion. Sorry, but Witch Hunts are definitely not quite how you&#8217;re portraying them.</p>
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