They are not on the ground. You can see down to the left of the huts. It’s laid out kinda like an Ewok village though. These avians have legs so they walk as much as they fly which explains the walkways between the huts.
Look more carefully at the art. Those huts are built platforms of some kind and Harky is hiding around the corner of what looks like the bulk of a massive tree. Y’all needs glasses.
“Back in those days Arkera was an RTS, and you could team up with anybody you wanted if the plot made sense. Then the world changed, and factions were invented. It was a dark time.”
I figure it sounds more like Hurricane’s equivalent to the Diablo series. The visual in the second panel has the right camera angle for it, and Harky’s description would fit for a group of characters being played by people who are either in single player mode or small parties. Humans could have been the only playable race back then, with other races as hirelings. And it’d make sense if players just thought Harky was a returning NPC who got promoted to a more prominent position out of popularity from the fanbase.
He already knows, though. Wayyyyy back, Gondo told him something like “You know they are just using you, right?” and Harky replied with an “Of course” and something along the lines of using them as well.
BUT, as far as being a bad judge of character elsewhere, perhaps he is only because he is so VERY bitter. He can’t see past the wrongs that humans have committed against him (because there were many and they were BIG wrongs) and judge the character of single persons simply because they are human. Can’t see the forest for the trees, and all that.
Depends on if we’re talking about genetic gender or emotional gender. (I know that’s not the right term but I’m a bit of an ignorant redneck on how to )
Also, many bird species make homosexual pairs, so… maybe they do have some form of gender identifications outside the binary we humans have come up with?
Wait, so Harky teemed up with a party to fight… a dragon….. wielding a sword? How is that a thing? Wouldn’t a dragon, if indeed it is sentient enough to be wielding a weapon, be a avatar, priest or sacred of Tectonicus? After all, it breathes fire, and lives on stone. In that case why would Harky be fighting against it? But then I suppose this could be before he found faith.
Also, does this mean Harky is a incredibly high level PC who got sick of playing with other players, or a NPC that broke out of its own script in the game and continued to gain power?
Remember, actual dragons are supposed to be extinct, but there are still dragon-like monsters wandering around. At one point Byron talks about walking in on a dragonkin’s lair, unwittingly stealing its gold, and then having a reasonable discussion with it about the misunderstanding. Chapter 8, page 4.
“Wouldn’t a dragon, if indeed it is sentient enough to be wielding a weapon, be a avatar, priest or sacred of Tectonicus? After all, it breathes fire, and lives on stone.”
You are assuming a lot here.
Because two people are of the same religion doesn’t mean they cannot fight over something else. Or over the finest points of said religion, like the respective places of dragonkin and trollkin in the pecking order.
The dragon may have started as a chosen of Tectonicus, but may have drifted away from the role; in this case, terminating the previous title-holder may be the first duty of the next chosen one.
Or, from the start, neither the dragon nor Tectonicus may care for the other.
Also, in real-life polytheist cultures (Vikings, China/Japan) and in fantasy works (from the Niebelungen to Tolkien), traditional dragons are generally sentient, weapon or not, so finding a sentient one here should not be a surprise.
tl;dr: come on! Walking in a dungeon and fighting a dragon is traditional for a party of adventurers.
Your point is valid but it’s important to realize the source of the issue is more than simple fallacy as you seem to imply, the root of such bigotry is psychology and natural selection.
Negative experiences stay embedded in the brain WAY more than positive -> evolutionary adaptation to avoid repeating a possibly fatal mistake
The brain also shortcuts to lumping “kinds of others” together as a threat after several negative experiences with said ‘group’ (not hard to occur by chance and ONE very traumatic one may be enough) -> again an adaptation to learn swiftly what poses a threat, in nature an animal must learn QUICK what can present a predatory danger (more than just predator species of course), no time usually for our precious modern ‘open mindedness’ to wait and see if THIS particular Lion is out of Disney instead of Nature.
We mostly know how we SHOULD behave in ‘modern society’, but evolution and human behavioral ecology are a LOT LOT harder to fight than just pointing out a logical fallacy and they are the ‘true/final form’ of the boss known as bigotry.
No joke, there are INTELLIGENT people, reasonable logical and rational in almost all respects, who will suddenly surprise you when you get to know them by revealing they are PROUD to hate/fear one or more groups and literally NOTHING will dissuade them of that position because they have their own ‘logic’ to justify it and to end the discussion they will readily dismiss you as a naive PC hippie who ‘hasn’t seen the REAL world’
If you have not met them yet…you will in time, sadly -__-
Sure!
…But not a gingerbread cookie, see I’ve had a bad experience with those a few times so now I…just…avoid them *sigh*
Curse you Pavlov, and your little doggy too!
#68: I will spare someone who saved my life sometime in the past. This is only reasonable as it encourages others to do so. However, the offer is good one time only. If they want me to spare them again, they’d better save my life again.
I don’t know why anyone’s trying to contradict him on this point with the way the world is set up and what we’ve seen of Gastonia and Gastonian propoganda so far, this is exactly correct. There are humans who aren’t like that to varying degrees of ‘not like that’, but it’s true enough. (Not saying the races in World’s Rebellion are perfect societies, but this is on the nose for human society so far.)
Intriguing. I’d like to know more about this group.
I wonder if there’s anyone else that we know that was a part of it.
That lady with the cross and brown robes… That’s not a curtain church leader, is it?
Looks like an avian village. Probably Gondalessa’s. One story two grudges.
Speaking of one-storey, I’m surprised Avian homes are squat structures built on ground level.
They can’t all live in redwoods. Or maybe they did until the humans cut them down.
They are not on the ground. You can see down to the left of the huts. It’s laid out kinda like an Ewok village though. These avians have legs so they walk as much as they fly which explains the walkways between the huts.
Look more carefully at the art. Those huts are built platforms of some kind and Harky is hiding around the corner of what looks like the bulk of a massive tree. Y’all needs glasses.
And judgmental me needs to actually read the last poster in this thread before posting…
Considering Gondolessa is right next to Harky in the last picture, that’s rather obvious.
That’s what you get for not checking with the rest of the party about their alignment before the game starts.
Want to go raid the newbie dungeon again?
“Back in those days Arkera was an RTS, and you could team up with anybody you wanted if the plot made sense. Then the world changed, and factions were invented. It was a dark time.”
“People started these petitions on the forums, but I was very vocal about my support for the factions patch. After all, human players are scum.”
I figure it sounds more like Hurricane’s equivalent to the Diablo series. The visual in the second panel has the right camera angle for it, and Harky’s description would fit for a group of characters being played by people who are either in single player mode or small parties. Humans could have been the only playable race back then, with other races as hirelings. And it’d make sense if players just thought Harky was a returning NPC who got promoted to a more prominent position out of popularity from the fanbase.
Yop. Harkey has got Humans figgured out
Think Harky is just a bad judge of character, he’s about to be betrayed by his current group after all.
He already knows, though. Wayyyyy back, Gondo told him something like “You know they are just using you, right?” and Harky replied with an “Of course” and something along the lines of using them as well.
BUT, as far as being a bad judge of character elsewhere, perhaps he is only because he is so VERY bitter. He can’t see past the wrongs that humans have committed against him (because there were many and they were BIG wrongs) and judge the character of single persons simply because they are human. Can’t see the forest for the trees, and all that.
I used to be an open minded individual like you but then I took a human to my moral sense.
Lrn 2 PVP noob.
Shouldn’t that be bird-father?
Either way, he’s a fine, feathered friend.
Gondolessa is male, right?
Who even knows if birds have genders? Science doesn’t explain that!
I know! Also, fuckin magnets, how do they work?!
*holds up his hands with his hair all wild*
Aliens!
Depends on if we’re talking about genetic gender or emotional gender. (I know that’s not the right term but I’m a bit of an ignorant redneck on how to )
Also, many bird species make homosexual pairs, so… maybe they do have some form of gender identifications outside the binary we humans have come up with?
STOP BEING AVIANIST GUYS.
Then how about we skip the pronouns and just ask whether they’re ZZ or ZW?
Iver certainly seems to think so, and Harky uses masculine pronouns to refer to Gondolessa, so it would seem so.
Yeah, Gond’s male but there’s a show called “How I Met Your Mother” that’s being referenced so…
Wait, so Harky teemed up with a party to fight… a dragon….. wielding a sword? How is that a thing? Wouldn’t a dragon, if indeed it is sentient enough to be wielding a weapon, be a avatar, priest or sacred of Tectonicus? After all, it breathes fire, and lives on stone. In that case why would Harky be fighting against it? But then I suppose this could be before he found faith.
Also, does this mean Harky is a incredibly high level PC who got sick of playing with other players, or a NPC that broke out of its own script in the game and continued to gain power?
Or maybe this is all backstory from before the game started, as I assume the Heads of Houses Conspiracy to be.
Remember, actual dragons are supposed to be extinct, but there are still dragon-like monsters wandering around. At one point Byron talks about walking in on a dragonkin’s lair, unwittingly stealing its gold, and then having a reasonable discussion with it about the misunderstanding. Chapter 8, page 4.
Which ended with the dragonkin setting him on fire rather than killing him. Good times, gooood times.
See. Problems can always be solved with respectful conversation… and fire. Lot’s of fire.
It was only a little fire. Nothing to worry about, really.
“Wouldn’t a dragon, if indeed it is sentient enough to be wielding a weapon, be a avatar, priest or sacred of Tectonicus? After all, it breathes fire, and lives on stone.”
You are assuming a lot here.
Because two people are of the same religion doesn’t mean they cannot fight over something else. Or over the finest points of said religion, like the respective places of dragonkin and trollkin in the pecking order.
The dragon may have started as a chosen of Tectonicus, but may have drifted away from the role; in this case, terminating the previous title-holder may be the first duty of the next chosen one.
Or, from the start, neither the dragon nor Tectonicus may care for the other.
Also, in real-life polytheist cultures (Vikings, China/Japan) and in fantasy works (from the Niebelungen to Tolkien), traditional dragons are generally sentient, weapon or not, so finding a sentient one here should not be a surprise.
tl;dr: come on! Walking in a dungeon and fighting a dragon is traditional for a party of adventurers.
Fun with generalizations! Some of *those* people did something horrible, therefore all of *those* people are horrible!
Good thing we never see that kind of stupid generalization in real life.
Right? RIGHT?
Your point is valid but it’s important to realize the source of the issue is more than simple fallacy as you seem to imply, the root of such bigotry is psychology and natural selection.
Negative experiences stay embedded in the brain WAY more than positive -> evolutionary adaptation to avoid repeating a possibly fatal mistake
The brain also shortcuts to lumping “kinds of others” together as a threat after several negative experiences with said ‘group’ (not hard to occur by chance and ONE very traumatic one may be enough) -> again an adaptation to learn swiftly what poses a threat, in nature an animal must learn QUICK what can present a predatory danger (more than just predator species of course), no time usually for our precious modern ‘open mindedness’ to wait and see if THIS particular Lion is out of Disney instead of Nature.
We mostly know how we SHOULD behave in ‘modern society’, but evolution and human behavioral ecology are a LOT LOT harder to fight than just pointing out a logical fallacy and they are the ‘true/final form’ of the boss known as bigotry.
No joke, there are INTELLIGENT people, reasonable logical and rational in almost all respects, who will suddenly surprise you when you get to know them by revealing they are PROUD to hate/fear one or more groups and literally NOTHING will dissuade them of that position because they have their own ‘logic’ to justify it and to end the discussion they will readily dismiss you as a naive PC hippie who ‘hasn’t seen the REAL world’
If you have not met them yet…you will in time, sadly -__-
Can I give you a cookie? I want to give you a cookie.
Sure!
…But not a gingerbread cookie, see I’ve had a bad experience with those a few times so now I…just…avoid them *sigh*
Curse you Pavlov, and your little doggy too!
Gravedust, if you could hear this story, you would realize your greatest fear is of no concern anymore…
http://guildedage.net/comic/ask-an-adventurer-fear/
…because it has already become absolute reality
WHAT THE FLUB!? *sigh* Please ignore the above ^ I swear to all possible gods it was at the bottom of the page.
Does that dragony guy have a goatee?
Nice.
Harkey needs to read the Evil Overlord List…
#68: I will spare someone who saved my life sometime in the past. This is only reasonable as it encourages others to do so. However, the offer is good one time only. If they want me to spare them again, they’d better save my life again.
I think Harkey and Hammerhead share more of a philosophy than I would have guessed.
Rule #1 – kill your enemies
The end.
And how right he is!
We slaughter entire people for some exp, burn down their houses for gear, and destroy their culture for honor points.
I don’t know why anyone’s trying to contradict him on this point with the way the world is set up and what we’ve seen of Gastonia and Gastonian propoganda so far, this is exactly correct. There are humans who aren’t like that to varying degrees of ‘not like that’, but it’s true enough. (Not saying the races in World’s Rebellion are perfect societies, but this is on the nose for human society so far.)
Is it just me, or do those guy look similar to some of the Cultists?
‘Troublemakers’ guild, no doubt.