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Annotations Every Day - Written by T Campbell & Flo Kahn - Illustrated by John & Jason Waltrip

Yeesh. Best must be rolling in his vortex.

Chapter 12 – Page 3

on July 27, 2011
Chapter: Chapter 12
└ Tags: Bandit, Syr'Nj
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  1. Moe Lane
    Moe Lane
    July 27, 2011, 12:02 am | # | Reply

    …They both know that the other one is lying, huh?

    • Joe
      Joe
      July 27, 2011, 12:05 am | # | Reply

      And they probably both know that they both know they’re both lying.
      But there doesn’t seem to be any harm in playing along for now.

      • Phil
        Flo
        July 27, 2011, 12:47 pm | # | Reply

        This thread tickles me greatly with the avatars you two were assigned.

        • Joe
          Joe
          July 27, 2011, 11:38 pm | # | Reply

          Gold Star for the Random Number God?

        • Moe Lane
          Moe Lane
          July 28, 2011, 12:22 am | # | Reply

          …Wait, that wasn’t somebody doing that?

          Wow. I feel slightly better about the universe now.

          • The Auld Grump
            The Auld Grump
            July 28, 2011, 5:25 pm | # | Reply

            Mine certainly fits well enough. :)

            The Auld Grump, who’s avatar looks, ummm, auld and grumpy.

            • FreddeX
              FreddeX
              July 30, 2011, 4:10 pm | # | Reply

              Oh yeah? How about me? Sure i like Bandit a whole lot but, well, i don’t really think it suits me, ya know? ^^

              • SotiCoto
                SotiCoto
                June 26, 2013, 10:02 am | # | Reply

                Clearly I’m witnessing this conversation too far post-mortem for all of it to be relevant still.

                Anyway… if folks don’t recognise my avatar by now, I’ve either not been prolific enough, been banned too often, or just plain in the wrong time-period.

    • Thor
      Thor
      July 27, 2011, 1:00 am | # | Reply

      Nothing that Syr’Nj has said so far is technically untrue…

    • Doop doop
      Doop doop
      July 27, 2011, 3:58 am | # | Reply

      I’m trying to figure out WHY Syr’nj is lying.

      She JUST said that Gravedust was able to negotiate coming back from the dead. I don’t see why extending that to the rest of them is considered so bad.

      One way or another, they failed utterly and their incompetence was only mitigated by the Hero, Payet Best.

      Hrugh. Excuse me for a second while I try not to vomit after saying those words.

      • gangler
        gangler
        July 27, 2011, 4:11 am | # | Reply

        I don’t think she planned on telling her about Gravedust. Syrnj is just really bad at this.

        • Hopeless
          Hopeless
          July 27, 2011, 6:50 am | # | Reply

          I believe “Ditto” was the better answer to Bandit’s explanation of course barring the fact they were dead she is actually telling bandit the truth more or less from an Obi Wan Kenobi point of view!

          • centuriancode
            centuriancode
            July 27, 2011, 9:18 pm | # | Reply

            It wasn’t even metaphorical.

            They were restrained in hidden, underground compartments. They were simply also dead.

      • EatThePath
        EatThePath
        July 28, 2011, 4:01 am | # | Reply

        After consideration I think she’s lying to protect Byron. This way as few people as possible know he went crazy and killed the whole party, so nobody is likely to cause any trouble on that front.

        • gangler
          gangler
          July 28, 2011, 11:05 pm | # | Reply

          He didn’t actually kill everyone else though. He had a brief but ultimately harmless melee with Frigg before getting knocked out by Syrnj. At this point only she was still conscious to watch the army kill them like they were always gonna.

          If she just told Bandit “Well we quickly neutralized Byron but then the archers got us” it’d be 100% truthful and still keep him free of additional blame.

          …this is actually becoming an interesting look at how many ways you can truthfully tell the same while sending entirely separate messages. Leave one inconsequential piece of information out and it recolours the entire story.

          • Joe
            Joe
            July 26, 2013, 4:13 pm | # | Reply

            So does that mean Byron technically protected Bandit by infecting her with troll blood, while the rest of them ended up pushing daisies?

            • Speedy
              Speedy
              November 26, 2018, 5:00 pm | # | Reply

              Maybe he’s actually an even more brilliant tactician when he’s in berserker mode. :o

              Save at least one party member, by “killing” them. He just can’t remember the ice cold logic he used during his boiling rage. Or, he does remember, but he thought he was wrong about the the troll blood saving her.

  2. gangler
    gangler
    July 27, 2011, 12:15 am | # | Reply

    Why doesn’t it surprise me that Lying isn’t in Syrnj’s formidable talent-set?

  3. Jaang
    Jaang
    July 27, 2011, 12:22 am | # | Reply

    The lying game.

  4. bobthe6th
    bobthe6th
    July 27, 2011, 12:31 am | # | Reply

    ah the bluff check, and the players that have no right to abuse it so.

    • Lestantes
      Lestantes
      July 27, 2011, 1:20 am | # | Reply

      I’m not sure, as A Rogue/Theif Halfling, Bandit kinda has the upper hand in Bluff rolls. Perhaps that’s why here story both seemed plausible and rolled off the tongue a lot less staggered than Syr’nj’s.

      Sad thing is, though they both may have had good Detect Motive rolls, that in no way fills us in on what either of them is hiding. Syr did a good job sticking to half-truths. But as they say, “You can’t fib a fibber.”

  5. Jean-Luc
    Jean-Luc
    July 27, 2011, 12:31 am | # | Reply

    Syr’s lies are kinda wooden and Bandit’s on to her like Best is on boobs on Payet-day.

    Love Bandit’s face in the 2nd panel, very expressive and smart lookin’.

    • Robtimus
      Robtimus
      July 27, 2011, 1:44 am | # | Reply

      Bandit is a good liar because she only tells small lies, and Syr’nj is clearly green with envy.

  6. Doma
    Doma
    July 27, 2011, 12:31 am | # | Reply

    Wrinkly Bandit is not my favorite Bandit.

  7. Alechsa
    Alechsa
    July 27, 2011, 12:38 am | # | Reply

    …..Bandit sang Best’s praises?

    …Maybe she IS his alt….

    • Hyacintha
      Hyacintha
      July 27, 2011, 8:55 am | # | Reply

      I know, right? “Oooh, that sexy, talented, well-endowed hunk of a man Payet Best? I think I know him…” She obviously has some connection to him.

      • Valdrax
        Valdrax
        July 28, 2011, 8:21 am | # | Reply

        Or she’s heterosexual and has *seen* the man.

        But yeah, that wry smile isn’t helping the case despite them having been seen together and having completely different personalities, only one of which matches the real-world persona we’ve seen.

  8. Michael Haneline
    Michael Haneline
    July 27, 2011, 12:57 am | # | Reply

    Bandit looks a lot older all of a sudden.

    • Thor
      Thor
      July 27, 2011, 1:01 am | # | Reply

      She looks like she could use some sleep. It’s those lines under her eyes.

      Either that or she forgot to put her contacts in this morning.

  9. Devon
    Devon
    July 27, 2011, 1:29 am | # | Reply

    I hope this was a reference to bard quest XD

    • Rowen Morland
      Rowen Morland
      July 27, 2011, 7:33 pm | # | Reply

      Shine those shoes!

  10. Robtimus
    Robtimus
    July 27, 2011, 1:42 am | # | Reply

    Other things Gravedust is not proud of: double-tapping Von Carnaj, resurrecting the entire party, and that one strikethrough in his journal.

  11. Soliloquy
    Soliloquy
    July 27, 2011, 1:52 am | # | Reply

    All right, Bandit is so obviously Daedalus it’s not even funny. Trying to figure out how the four managed to come back from the dead when he thought they were contained, without giving away that it’s all a video game.

    • Forseti
      Forseti
      July 27, 2011, 7:15 am | # | Reply

      That’s what I make of it. And now he knows Gravedust can either change the rules of the game (h4xx0r!), or someone on his development team has sneaked in some undocumented code/content. I wouldn’t be surprised if the next page starts with Daedalus looking at the current scene on a monitor.

  12. ThePuck1
    ThePuck1
    July 27, 2011, 2:32 am | # | Reply

    Is it me, or has death change Bandit? She seems more reserved and less of a carefree spirit than before.

    • Krogaladin
      Krogaladin
      July 27, 2011, 3:02 am | # | Reply

      I guess dying can change your perspective, except most of us don’t get to live with that perspective.

  13. alta lemur
    alta lemur
    July 27, 2011, 6:53 am | # | Reply

    And here I thought “Blonde” and not blond was strictly feminine adjective. Or maybe Bandit is into blonde womenand is just hopeful.

    • Jaang
      Jaang
      July 27, 2011, 7:24 am | # | Reply

      I think all of the adjectives borrowed from French use the feminine form in English.

      • Kim
        Kim
        July 27, 2011, 9:56 am | # | Reply

        blond is the masculine, and used in english. sorry.

    • Levinia
      Levinia
      July 27, 2011, 10:15 am | # | Reply

      Actually, the word ‘blonde’ is an adjective describing blond hair and blue eyes specifically. Bandit is blonde.

      • Valdrax
        Valdrax
        July 28, 2011, 8:28 am | # | Reply

        Nope. Blonde/blonde is one of the few English word pairs to maintain a gender-based difference.
        Personally, as someone who dislikes such things as well as pointless silent letters, I just use “blond” all the time.

    • Jean-Luc
      Jean-Luc
      July 27, 2011, 10:18 am | # | Reply

      Hey, if you’re sexy and talented it doesn’t matter if you’re also “blonde”.

    • ahdok
      ahdok
      July 27, 2011, 1:04 pm | # | Reply

      It’s actually a kind of beer.

    • Phil
      Flo
      July 27, 2011, 6:23 pm | # | Reply

      Blond just looks naked without that E to me.

      • gangler
        gangler
        July 27, 2011, 7:43 pm | # | Reply

        Nothing worse than a naked blond.

        • centuriancode
          centuriancode
          July 27, 2011, 9:22 pm | # | Reply

          Unless you happen to think that naked blonde is Best.

  14. Eshajori
    Eshajori
    July 27, 2011, 10:25 am | # | Reply

    First time poster – Just found this series a few days ago and am all caught up.

    I don’t think Dedalus NEEDS to be Bandit. He was watching the conversation between Payest Best and Gravedust’s spirit with no trouble, and he wasn’t either of them. Dedalus could have just as easily heard Gravedust explaining how he brought them all back. He certainly seems to keep tabs on them.

    Something is definitely fishy though… I’m not sure they can trust Bandit anymore. She remembers most of what happened at least, and the troll blood thing is really out there since those axes nearly cut her in three. In any case I don’t think she appreciated dying too much… if this is even her and not someone else.

    • Thracecius
      Thracecius
      July 27, 2011, 12:37 pm | # | Reply

      Nice observations!

      I think I’m the same camp as you right now, as I haven’t been keeping notes to tally up who might be whom from “Sepia World”.

      My maxim while role-playing tends to be “always be prepared”, which generally means suspect everyone’s motive/intent even if they’re an ally, so withholding information from Bandit is probably the safest bet for the time being.

      • Lady Woolley
        Lady Woolley
        July 28, 2011, 7:50 am | # | Reply

        “Constant Vigilance!” Hehehe…

  15. drakvl
    drakvl
    July 27, 2011, 11:31 am | # | Reply

    An idea I just had: perhaps Dedalus can pull an Agent Smith, and hijack characters?

    • Soliloquy
      Soliloquy
      July 27, 2011, 3:01 pm | # | Reply

      Maybe, but I don’t think that’s a practice that the world’s most succesful mmo would ever take part in. I think it’s more likely that he was bandit from the very beginning.

      • gangler
        gangler
        July 27, 2011, 4:23 pm | # | Reply

        I can see the practice having a whole lot of useful applications on a test-server. Shortcuts and manual overrides aren’t really uncommon in that scenario.

    • Nekropancser
      Nekropancser
      July 27, 2011, 3:38 pm | # | Reply

      Or she died, never resurrected, but Daedalus created a character with her parameters, voice and thus trying to alter the course of the events through the system.
      Can’t wait it see what pops up next…

      • Nekropancser
        Nekropancser
        July 27, 2011, 3:44 pm | # | Reply

        WHAT HAPPENED WITH MY RANDOMAVATA??? :( (I like this one better. At least this involves a dead person. :D)

        • centuriancode
          centuriancode
          July 27, 2011, 9:24 pm | # | Reply

          You only get one if you don;’t already have a pre-chosen gravatar. For example, take a look at Jean-Luc.

          • Redo19
            Redo19
            July 28, 2011, 10:22 am | # | Reply

            Or me! :D

  16. Valdrax
    Valdrax
    July 27, 2011, 7:31 pm | # | Reply

    B-bu-buh, whuh?

    What was the point of all that lying if you’re just going to admit that Gravedust can bring people back from the grave?

  17. SteelRaven
    SteelRaven
    July 27, 2011, 7:51 pm | # | Reply

    I wouldn’t want to be in a poker game with these two.

  18. Mister Andersen
    Mister Andersen
    July 28, 2011, 7:41 am | # | Reply

    Just got this delightful bon mot:

    The article Guilded Age has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:

    This article is not based on reliable secondary sources (WP:V). It does not show where this topic has received significant coverage, so does not meet the general notability guideline for inclusion (WP:V). If the only information available is in-universe character and plot descriptions, then it doesn’t belong in an encyclopedia (WP:WAF).

    While all contributions to Wikipedia are appreciated, content or articles may be deleted for any of several reasons.

    You may prevent the proposed deletion by removing the {{proposed deletion/dated}} notice, but please explain why in your edit summary or on the article’s talk page.

    Please consider improving the article to address the issues raised. Removing {{proposed deletion/dated}} will stop the proposed deletion process, but other deletion processes exist. In particular, the speedy deletion process can result in deletion without discussion, and articles for deletion allows discussion to reach consensus for deletion. Marasmusine (talk) 08:22, 28 July 2011 (UTC)

    • Valdrax
      Valdrax
      July 28, 2011, 8:12 am | # | Reply

      The deletionists are why I stopped caring about Wikipedia years ago.
      It’s just a massive d@$#-waving contest over there.

    • Phil
      Flo
      July 28, 2011, 8:25 am | # | Reply

      I call upon the power of our AWESOME FANS to scour the Internet for sources to add to the wikipedia page and help it survive!

    • Jean-Luc
      Jean-Luc
      July 28, 2011, 10:37 am | # | Reply

      I have to admit I don’t quite understand what it is they want. Sources? There’s a link to the comic’s homepage. What better and more valid source could there be?

      Is it a problem that some passages are copy/pasted official content (like character descriptions)? Should one write “objective” 2nd party articles about GA that aren’t “author content”? But then what about sources if the person in question wrote it on her own?

      Does there need to be some non http://www.ga.net related articles written by some “journalist” somewhere that could then be referred to in the wiki thus providing a source and a non biased view?

      I mean, what the hell guys?

      • Jean-Luc
        Jean-Luc
        July 28, 2011, 10:38 am | # | Reply

        *3rd party :P

      • David Johnston
        David Johnston
        July 28, 2011, 12:00 pm | # | Reply

        Mentions of the comic in print would be the most effective defense against deletion.

      • Phil
        Flo
        July 28, 2011, 12:07 pm | # | Reply

        Yes, their policies are backwards, but if we want GA to be recognized as something that exists and deserves to be recognized as existing… we’d better dig up all we can find.

        • Locke
          Locke
          July 28, 2011, 1:18 pm | # | Reply

          “Written by Phil and T. Campbell. The former is the anthropomorphic manifestation of the ancient Sumerian Beard God, whilst the latter is an advanced AI who has learned human culture wholly through the internet and various thesauri. Also drawn by John Waltrip, who is notable as being an immortal Egyptian sorceror who lives by producing art. This comic is enjoyed by Jean-Luc Picard, the philosopher John Locke, and many other famous and significant people. (CITATION NEEDED).”

          Okay, I’m done. This’ll totally save the page, guys.

          • Phil
            Flo
            July 28, 2011, 1:48 pm | # | Reply

            Gold Star.

            I’m tempted to just use that for the back of our next book.

            • Alechsa
              Alechsa
              July 28, 2011, 2:45 pm | # | Reply

              I would TOTALLY go to a con just to buy that book and ask for signatures right on that part of it…

          • Jean-Luc
            Jean-Luc
            July 28, 2011, 7:50 pm | # | Reply

            Is your nick really based on John Locke the philosopher?

            • gangler
              gangler
              July 28, 2011, 9:12 pm | # | Reply

              I always thought it was supposed to be Locke Cole the treasure hunter.

        • Nekropancser
          Nekropancser
          July 28, 2011, 10:10 pm | # | Reply

          Hm… wouldn’t it save the page to extend the informative part a little by telling about philosophical questions, which Guilded Age tries to answer or something? I dunno, mebbe write a little about, without giving out anything of the forecoming script, this deal of outer world/inner world thingy? Then give a few links to your other works, and all is well.
          Less meaningful or well written stuff get to stay on wiki, so I don’t understand this… Sorry for tweeting into the discussion.

    • Jean-Luc
      Jean-Luc
      July 28, 2011, 10:08 pm | # | Reply

      Some links I managed to scrounge off the e-wall.
      Crappy ones:
      Literally just the link – http://www.comic-nation.com/comics/show/3842
      More of a technical listing – http://website.informer.com/guildedage.net
      Again just a short listing but more thorough and up to date – http://www.thewebcomiclist.com/p/15827/Guilded-Age
      LJ: http://blairhippo.livejournal.com/

      Good/better ones:
      Some blog – http://thesingularityblog.net/archives/931
      TV Tropes – http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/GuildedAge
      The review we’ve seen earlier: http://webcomicoverlook.com/2011/01/21/the-webcomic-overlook-148-guilded-age/
      Small mention – http://www.tamurancomic.com/?paged=2
      Deviant Art fan fiction (known to us form before) – http://angry-buddha-88.deviantart.com/art/Guilded-Age-Guest-Comic-188072195

      That’s all I could find. :/ It’s hard to search for because the “gilded age” is such an often used term.

  19. mightysmiley
    mightysmiley
    July 29, 2011, 12:59 pm | # | Reply

    and it looks like the proverbial S#!$ is about to hit the fan

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