Nah, if Rachel will bonk betties with anyone in the aftermath of this, it will be The Frigg (it would be a Stress Frack, but if anything resulted further than that, or if she then does end up with E-gurl, only T & Phil know)
Well, Hestia was a bit overly focused on the hot topics of the day, but she had a true fire under her ass about it. Judge her as you like, but we can’t say she was kindling around.
In ancient Greek religion, Hestia was a virgin goddess of the hearth, architecture, and the right ordering of domesticity, the family, the home, and the state.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hestia – Interesting article. You can tell the authors of GA really did their homework, when creating the character Hestia for this comic.
Since the goddess Hestia supposedly lived in the hearth, you’re right about Hestia having a fire under her ass. XD
I really agree with Darkstand here… Gold stars are only given once in a while (which is fine) and sometimes I’m not even sure whether Phil reads all the comments anymore (which is ok, too). But very often there are so many great comments that I would like to show my appreciation. And sometimes I only have time to read a few of some. In both cases “+1”-upvotes or something similar would really be great.
I remember in being taught in Junior High School the scientific term for when a liquid-based solid (such as ice) skipped the liquid stage (water) and went right to the gaseous state (vapour/evaporation). But for the life of me, I cannot remember the term itself.
Anyhow, I imagine that that is what happened to Hestia’s eyes. …’cos that is some serious, super-fast conflagration, folks!!
Holy shit! What a horrible thought! What if there really were such a thing? I’ve seen over-sprayed hair go up in a candle-flame at a Hallowe’en party WHOOMPH!! Good thing she was drunk, ‘cos she laughed instead of crying…
Maybe she did notice. In the last page she spoke about how they contain evil in themselves (“under their skin”), and here she talks about how Rachel would forgive the beatings in the streets. This might have been her way of punishing herself, as she knew Rachel wouldn’t.
I dunno… s/he *does* seem pretty sincere. I mean, I’d have more trouble with the apology if s/he were laughing. I’ve had apologies like that before.
…Actually, I get them a lot.
She was actually talking about herself and I believe she meant she was saying that the law should be blind to who it disciplines as Rachel was so quick to leave Hestia alone instead of actually giving her due punishment for the evil she has taken a part of or even knows about. As she also states that Rachel does not know how corrupt the government is. Sorry for the long wall of text.
That seems to be about right. From what I am getting Hestia seems to be working on the philosophy that to fight monsters, you need monsters. Perhaps she had given up that good, moral people could stop the corrupt and evil and felt what was truly needed was for evil to fight evil. The Dwarven Slaughter is obviously the Battle of the Burning Heels, I assume the starvation of millions is simply how the rich will gladly profit off of the populace and then turn a blind eye to suffering that they could greatly reduce by giving back just a fraction of their wealth back to the community that allowed them to be rich in the first place.
From my view, Hestia simply thinks that Rachel is too soft and that evil cannot be forgiven. Since we are on the subject, going to through out a quote from an old show I enjoyed. “There’s one thing more powerful than conviction. Just one: mercy.”
I think this is within GA’s Top 10 Most Grisly Deaths. Possibly even top 5. No gore, but it’s all on-screen and we see the wracked corpse.
Ferris holds the top spot, and will hopefully continue to hold it for a while (his arm is still in the story, after all!). Bandit’s up there. Ashok’s a nobody, but he’s kind of up there too.
This is right up there with Ashok for me. I remember when Bandit got chopped there was a lot of debate in the comments about whether it was *actually* a mortal wound and whether the camera angle was misleading us. Hestia’s immolated skeleton is pretty unequivocal.
I’m of the belief that one of the things wrong with their world, the fact that it’s being influenced by the mechanics of an MMORPG, is why Bandit is still alive. She respawned and doesn’t know how to explain it or what it means. My theory.
I’m guessing putting up a defense (water?) wall against Holy Fire of Death takes a lot of oomph even in the best of times. Like, requires a hp to mana conversion spell bad.
Rachel is likely to go into full tilt survivor’s guilt mode from seeing her sister burn herself alive trying to kill her. She will blame herself, and quite possibly blame E-merl for saving her. That’s what’s going to hurt him more than his arm, seeing Rachel broken like that and blaming him for saving her.
“And not just cuz the arm”. So it’s not his arm he’s talking about. MrKnifey I think has it the closest. So it’s not Merl that’s hurting (my original thought), it’s Rachel.
Kind of reminiscent of Frollo from Hunchback of Notre Dame:
“And he shall smite the wicked and plunge them into the fiery pit!” Before plunging into a fiery pit
Well, plunging into a fiery pit is likely worse than having one’s Glory Hole found, as the One Ring might attest to, having gone from “my Precious,” to “Ring of Fire.”
They were still friends, even if Hestia went too far up the rabbit’s hole
True friends don’t turn their back, specially if their friend has turned evil (they might stick something large and blunt up ya butt, and then light it on fire)
And thus Rachel never knows what Hestia wished to say with her final breath.
“Evil blisters!”
“Evil, bitches!”
“Evil beagles will attack Frigg in the eighth hour, as foretold in the prophecy!”
“Evil burns of the side variety, like, you know, sideburns, will let you know who not to trust in the Gastonian government and your own party.”
Who knows what she intended that last word or phrase to be? We don’t! It’s a mysterious mystery!
thats his “eye of the storm” spell. its wind magic and creates a spherical shield around the ring at a radius set by the caster. hestia has immolated herself because she has lost control of her powers. e-merl has just started to cast the spell which is why it does not yet appear as a sphere.
To me it appears as if E-Merl casts a variation of his sphere-spell. I interpreted his “this is gonna hurt” as allusion to the difficulty of this.
Hestia lighted herself on fire well before, I think.
No witty comment, but the burning skeleton is really, really pretty to me. That’s some lovely art
Indeed, preeeeeeeeetttyyyyyy….
Also, E’mearl is sooooo getting that pussy.
Oh, I’m pretty sure this will backfire for him in some way.
Nah, if Rachel will bonk betties with anyone in the aftermath of this, it will be The Frigg (it would be a Stress Frack, but if anything resulted further than that, or if she then does end up with E-gurl, only T & Phil know)
Well, Hestia was a bit overly focused on the hot topics of the day, but she had a true fire under her ass about it. Judge her as you like, but we can’t say she was kindling around.
In ancient Greek religion, Hestia was a virgin goddess of the hearth, architecture, and the right ordering of domesticity, the family, the home, and the state.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hestia – Interesting article. You can tell the authors of GA really did their homework, when creating the character Hestia for this comic.
Since the goddess Hestia supposedly lived in the hearth, you’re right about Hestia having a fire under her ass. XD
Hey Hettie, you need to work on your Melisandre cosplay.
The goal is to *not* burn yourself to death.
Fire jelly – and fire stunts in general – is harder to use than it looks.
(Also, there really needs to be a way to ‘+1’ ‘upvote’, ‘like’, or something to comments…)
we have the official phil kahn gold star. notsure theres really anything more that we’d need
I really agree with Darkstand here… Gold stars are only given once in a while (which is fine) and sometimes I’m not even sure whether Phil reads all the comments anymore (which is ok, too). But very often there are so many great comments that I would like to show my appreciation. And sometimes I only have time to read a few of some. In both cases “+1”-upvotes or something similar would really be great.
Phil doesn’t give gold stars when they’re nominated by other people.
I nominate your comment for a gold star. >;)
Evil burns, you are right about that Hestia just look in a mirror.
I’m pretty sure her eyeballs just popped like overripe grapes, so that could be tricky :D
I remember in being taught in Junior High School the scientific term for when a liquid-based solid (such as ice) skipped the liquid stage (water) and went right to the gaseous state (vapour/evaporation). But for the life of me, I cannot remember the term itself.
Anyhow, I imagine that that is what happened to Hestia’s eyes. …’cos that is some serious, super-fast conflagration, folks!!
Sublimation is the term you are looking for.
Not sure it applies here, since eyeballs are at least partially liquid in an (operational) eye.
Cool, thanks!
It was kinda sad, the way Hestia went out. No dry ice in the crowd.
Another senseless death due to flammable makeup.
Holy shit! What a horrible thought! What if there really were such a thing? I’ve seen over-sprayed hair go up in a candle-flame at a Hallowe’en party WHOOMPH!! Good thing she was drunk, ‘cos she laughed instead of crying…
(spider costume, in case anyone’s wondering)
Spinnerette? Would have been so cool if it was a Spinny costume (not so cool about the hair-flambe though :()
Heh. It was a looong time ago, so, no Spinny. Just a generic, make-your-own spider costume.
And, yeah. She got a cute haircut to even out the “1/4 of my hair is gone!” And she was quite happy to retell the story for days afterwards.
Evil comes in many shapes and sizes. Good people will often do bad things because they think they are “in the right.”
Evil burns? Truly, it does.
Well, you know the phrase about where “good intentions” pave the road to, right?
You won’t like me when I’m incinerate-y.
To be fair, no one really liked her before she was incinerate-y either.
She lived her life like a candle in the wind, never knowing who to cling to.
+1
Yes, yes it does.
The ‘beatings in the streets’ in particular emphasises the question of ‘How didn’t she notice she was talking about herself!?’.
Exactly. It’s so obvious!
Maybe she did notice. In the last page she spoke about how they contain evil in themselves (“under their skin”), and here she talks about how Rachel would forgive the beatings in the streets. This might have been her way of punishing herself, as she knew Rachel wouldn’t.
Well that’s too bad, I actually liked her character design. She had cool hair.
And besides, I think this is the quickest we’ve seen an antagonist die yet. She didn’t stick around long AT ALL.
Wait… did Blair and Hestia’s deaths get cutscenes? ‘Cause, if not, they might respawn. ;)
She appears a little hot under the collar…
Hope she doesn’t dwell on all these hot button topics.
Well, as someone once said, “It’s better to burn out than fade away.” Then again, Hestia appears to be going “Up in Smoke.”
…
I’m sorry about this.
Wait a minute… *squints* You’re not sorry! You’re not sorry at ALL!
I don’t know, I mean, just look at that face. He looks pretty sorry.
I dunno… s/he *does* seem pretty sincere. I mean, I’d have more trouble with the apology if s/he were laughing. I’ve had apologies like that before.
…Actually, I get them a lot.
Must be my face.
The nun,
The nun,
The nun is on fire…
We don’t need no water, let the Mother Superior burn…
HEY! o.O i said that… XD
She was actually talking about herself and I believe she meant she was saying that the law should be blind to who it disciplines as Rachel was so quick to leave Hestia alone instead of actually giving her due punishment for the evil she has taken a part of or even knows about. As she also states that Rachel does not know how corrupt the government is. Sorry for the long wall of text.
That seems to be about right. From what I am getting Hestia seems to be working on the philosophy that to fight monsters, you need monsters. Perhaps she had given up that good, moral people could stop the corrupt and evil and felt what was truly needed was for evil to fight evil. The Dwarven Slaughter is obviously the Battle of the Burning Heels, I assume the starvation of millions is simply how the rich will gladly profit off of the populace and then turn a blind eye to suffering that they could greatly reduce by giving back just a fraction of their wealth back to the community that allowed them to be rich in the first place.
From my view, Hestia simply thinks that Rachel is too soft and that evil cannot be forgiven. Since we are on the subject, going to through out a quote from an old show I enjoyed. “There’s one thing more powerful than conviction. Just one: mercy.”
Good analysis.
In the immortal words of Paris Hilton: That’s hot.
+1
+1
Your comment is *so* hot.
Truly, famous last words.
I think this is within GA’s Top 10 Most Grisly Deaths. Possibly even top 5. No gore, but it’s all on-screen and we see the wracked corpse.
Ferris holds the top spot, and will hopefully continue to hold it for a while (his arm is still in the story, after all!). Bandit’s up there. Ashok’s a nobody, but he’s kind of up there too.
Wait, Bandit died?
Kinda she was chopped by Byron, if i remember correctly, when the other faction threw them into an arena and he went all berserker.
The lot of them did. They got better.
the whole party goes down at the end of chapter 8. except best. he was out on tour.
Yeah, remembered that right after posting :/
This is right up there with Ashok for me. I remember when Bandit got chopped there was a lot of debate in the comments about whether it was *actually* a mortal wound and whether the camera angle was misleading us. Hestia’s immolated skeleton is pretty unequivocal.
I’m of the belief that one of the things wrong with their world, the fact that it’s being influenced by the mechanics of an MMORPG, is why Bandit is still alive. She respawned and doesn’t know how to explain it or what it means. My theory.
Didn’t she learn from Michael Jackson’s example? Too much hair products…
And she gave of herself to become a martyr. A lone pyre of flame that would burn away evil.
And so the holy fire elemental was summoned!
yeah admittedly im awaiting the “pheonix resurrection” to kick in and hestia to god mode the frigg out of everyone:D
And then she’s extinguished by more rage-vomit, and decides she needs to re-examine her death choices.
That actually made me laugh out loud! (Actually, it was more of a cackle/chuckle…)
For me, it was more of a guffaw.
Hmm…why would it hurt to save her? I guess what she did to him was THAT big of a deal…
I’m guessing putting up a defense (water?) wall against Holy Fire of Death takes a lot of oomph even in the best of times. Like, requires a hp to mana conversion spell bad.
That ALMOST makes me miss being a batshit insane Taru Red Mage. Mana battery deployed.
Mr. Magician was never out of the fight, he was only winded
No, using his magic with a broken arm was what was going to hurt
i think its him saying that stopping her from sacrificing herself to save her “much loved sister” would hurt rachel too
Rachel is likely to go into full tilt survivor’s guilt mode from seeing her sister burn herself alive trying to kill her. She will blame herself, and quite possibly blame E-merl for saving her. That’s what’s going to hurt him more than his arm, seeing Rachel broken like that and blaming him for saving her.
“And not just cuz the arm”. So it’s not his arm he’s talking about. MrKnifey I think has it the closest. So it’s not Merl that’s hurting (my original thought), it’s Rachel.
Kind of reminiscent of Frollo from Hunchback of Notre Dame:
“And he shall smite the wicked and plunge them into the fiery pit!” Before plunging into a fiery pit
She sure went out in a Blaze of Glory.
Blaze of Fury, not Glory, no glory in going out like this :(
Well, plunging into a fiery pit is likely worse than having one’s Glory Hole found, as the One Ring might attest to, having gone from “my Precious,” to “Ring of Fire.”
Tsk. Look where your comments lead my mind to.
I blame Phil.
Rachel wins!
Toasty!
No, in her mind, she has lost
She couldn’t save her friend.
When the battle is within, as it so oft is, you can’t really save anyone. All you can do is try to convince them that they’re worth saving.
Friend ? A friend who was trying to kill her and E-Merl. A friend who killed or ordered to kill a nice, quiet, composed, helpful nun.
With friends like these, who needs enemies?
Don’t you *dare* say “frenemies,” or I shall ka-smite you with my internet powers.
They were still friends, even if Hestia went too far up the rabbit’s hole
True friends don’t turn their back, specially if their friend has turned evil (they might stick something large and blunt up ya butt, and then light it on fire)
Wow, try to make a Mortal Kombat reference, and suddenly everyone gets philosophical.
Hey, random question: Do we have a forum for GA I can’t find anywhere?
We had. We don’t like to talk about it.
This makes me a sad panda.
This may well be a very great TNG reference.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sdtomL38s28
this seems fairly fitting
If you can’t take the heat get out of the fiery habit.
[Surgeon General’s Warning: Self immolation may lead to a smoking habit]
Anyone got marshmallows?
Damn, I’ve heart of burnouts but this takes it to a whole ‘nother level.
Heartburn?
Nah, I feel the same way the morning after burritos.
All You Can Eat Tacos…Never again!
I only wonder if Rachel gets any XP for that.
That’s a hell of a satori.
Come on Rachel, lead the sisterhood to better roads!
(puts on shades)
… You’re fired.
I like you.
Kinda Christian Slater (Heathers) spin…
And thus Rachel never knows what Hestia wished to say with her final breath.
“Evil blisters!”
“Evil, bitches!”
“Evil beagles will attack Frigg in the eighth hour, as foretold in the prophecy!”
“Evil burns of the side variety, like, you know, sideburns, will let you know who not to trust in the Gastonian government and your own party.”
Who knows what she intended that last word or phrase to be? We don’t! It’s a mysterious mystery!
So just to check – is E-merl’s spell just protecting Rachel? Or is *he* the one actually lighting Hestia on fire?
thats his “eye of the storm” spell. its wind magic and creates a spherical shield around the ring at a radius set by the caster. hestia has immolated herself because she has lost control of her powers. e-merl has just started to cast the spell which is why it does not yet appear as a sphere.
I do wonder whether the wind from the spell fanned the flames, though.
Did she lose control of her powers, or was she trying to send one last message to Rachel? Food for thought maybe?
One last message
To me it appears as if E-Merl casts a variation of his sphere-spell. I interpreted his “this is gonna hurt” as allusion to the difficulty of this.
Hestia lighted herself on fire well before, I think.
the beatings in the street, that was her. right?
yes.
Holy Smokes!
Holy Smoke
Love the teeth on the priests :D
Speaking of teeth: never noticed before that Brucie has vampire teeth!!!
And that’s what we like to call irony kids
EVIL DROWNS
didn’t help. maybe holy air or something, hurricanes are livable right?