It’s not bad at all IMHO, though some of the later volumes (and there are LOTS) get a little narmy at times. It’s the only modern reimagining of the zombie apocalypse trope that feels right for this day and age. (The shambling cannibal thing has to be passé by now, despite the persistant popularity.)
“Crossed” isn’t a comic book. It’s an endurance challenge. How much death, horror, rape and madness can you sit through before you throw up or just sorrow for humanity?
To be honest, I read through the whole 3 and a half volumes that’s up, and, well, it’s pretty awesome.
In a weird way.
You see, when you’re already dull to all the gore and carnage, and it just won’t shock you anymore, this comic will do it. Not with more blood and guts (since you’re numbed down to that already) but with presenting you with just how terrible humans can be.
I don’t wanna spoil anything, but Shakespear… That bastard…
PS: Thank you Alt Text and Kamino for pointing me to the direction of this comic. I don’t know how to say what else I want to say.
Did Ennis call it commentary? I don’t remember the original volume being preachy about any part of the whole situation. There was no “OMG the zombies are like us” moment, no “the living are the real threat” cliche.
It is “the sickest shit we can think of” but only *if* we’re thinking about an apocalyptic collapse of human society. If you’re not at least a little scared by the concept of crazed, contagious, sadomasochistic murderers and rapists with no magical weak spots, capable of using vehicles, firearms, and just about every advantage the living are normally given in these scenarios… then I don’t want to know what does scare you.
“Gross” does not cancel out “scary”, and “revelatory” was never really implied. “Trite and boring” is of course an entirely subjective designation.
If you’re not at least a little scared by the concept of crazed, contagious, sadomasochistic murderers and rapists with no magical weak spots, capable of using vehicles, firearms, and just about every advantage the living are normally given in these scenarios… then I don’t want to know what does scare you
Generally, things that are reasonable, or at worst require only accepting the supernatural.
‘Everyone is a necrobestialist cannibal rapist just waiting to be released’, on the other hand, isn’t scary, it’s absurd.
I’ve led a fairly sheltered life, but still have no real issue with the premise you describe. I’m perfectly capable of accepting that, stripped of the social structure imposed over the millennia, the human intellect would just dial the basic instincts that remain up to eleven.
The “supernatural” that needs to be accepted there would be the mechanism of facilitating such a ridiculously complex reworking of the psyche in an instant, but suspension of disbelief is just enough to cover that.
I’ve not read it, but I believe the plot of Lord of the Flies is not “Children are isolated, immediately begin butchering and sodomising each other.”
Maybe you can make points through exaggeration, but if you make it implausible, it doesn’t work for a lot of us.
Stripped of millennia of social structure, we’d make another social structure. It would perhaps be more violent, but not hostile to all life.
Kind of like Lord of the Flies. That’s scary because it’s plausible.
I’ve only read the Wikipedia plot summary, but I really don’t think it’s about humans.
How horrible we COULD be in a hypothetical scenario, but not CAN. Humans need motives. We don’t just kill people, we have reasons! Terrible, twisted reasons, but reasons nonetheless.
It sounds a bit over the top and not really my thing, so I don’t think I’ll be reading it.
Have seen the covers in the Comic Previews book each month, and that is more than enough thankyouverymuchly (gratuitous violence towards women really gets me angry, almost boycotted The Addams Family movies because of one episode of The Sandman)
Seconding the question. From what I understand of it, The Sandman possibly made a negative reference to the movies? The first what springs to mind concerning violence towards women with the Addamses is Wednesday’s decapitated doll Marie-Antoinette. Another thing being Uncle Fester, but possibly also Granny, enjoying being put on the rack.
“24 hours” – Issue 6 of Neil Gaiman’s Sandman comic is a horror story involving murder & violence. It also references The Addams Family theme from the ’60s television series. Nothing wrong with the Addamses themselves, but unfortunately connected to a comic that was deeply disturbing to (I presume) then young & innocent Guesticus.
One can find “24 hours” online as a .pdf by simply Googling “Sandman Issue Six”.
Yes, like said, it was just one scene in a bar that happened to be playing The Addams Family in the background, unfortunately for me that scene was linked to the TV/Movie series and didn’t want to be reminded of what happened, took me years before could watch the movie and not ‘flash back’ to that scene (still do sometimes, but the reaction/feeling isn’t as bad now)
Bingo! I figured it out allright! :) Then again – I guessed you didn’t want to be reminded of the comic as a whole, which is very bleak, rather than this particular scene, which is rather tame. (People off-panel having consensual sex, judging by their love talk.) Although it seems kinda off-putting to have Dr. Destiny present during all this, twiddling his thumbs.
Actually, it wasn’t “consensual sex”, that guy changed them into ‘beast-minds/mentality’, and one of the females was gay and in a relationship with another character in the story
I admit I don’t fully understand how Dr. Destiny’s powers work. He influences their minds, but it seems there’s still some free choice to their actions, if only in the direction John Dee steers them toward. Also, I interpreted the sex scene as some sort of down time granted to them by Dee, who doesn’t seem to be interested in the sex itself.
There’s no way to tell which couples are getting it on in this scene. Judy may just as well be paired with another woman, if that’s any comfort to you.
Funny you should mention Crossed because the Wish You Were Here webcomic is consistently one of the most horrifying things I read. I often click its link in my RSS feeds and wonder shortly thereafter “How can I be…seeing this?”
I have to hand it to Crossed, it makes 28 Day/Weeks films look like Disney flicks by comparison and it remains the only apocalypse scenario that actually frighten zombie fans as a whole.
Which is why I don’t really get that alt text dig. How exactly is Crossed “unreadable”? Yes, it’s extremely gross and an acquired taste at best, but it’s actually fairly well written, I think.
I was half joking when I made that dig. I agree, the first volume of Crossed was pretty good and worth a read… but subsequent stories like Family Values and Psycho are just… a little much.
A classic case of new creators missing the point of the first story being a tale of survival and turning the series into just straight up writing shocksploitational violence porn.
I have not read the webcomic version though I’ve heard it’s OK.
Family Values was so-so and Psychopath was pretty bad, you’re right. Some of the shorter Badlands arcs were even worse, story-wise and art-wise, although those are the exceptions.
I highly recommend the webcomic, it’s on par with the original volume… if you can get through the initial dolphin rape scene, which seems to me is there mainly as an early warning system for the more squeamish readers.
A borrower that destroys with a touch? Like my next door neighbor! Every lawn tool he borrows from me gets returned almost ruined! I’ve complained …
Wait … burrower? … eh … nevermind.
My brother managed to snap an “unbreakable” garden fork that had a lifetime warranty so my parents got a new one. Yesterday I accidentally bent it completely out of shape.
“Unbreakable” tools 0, aspen tree roots: 2, reaching in with my bare hands and yorking the things out like a badass: about 20 or so but there are always more. Always.
It’s a game breaking bug. And the most worrying thing about the cultists is that they are using it to spread madness where every other player of a MMOG would use it to dupe legendary gear.
From a role-playing perspective, exploits that grant significant game-play advantages often require, or lead to, wildly out-of-character behavior — i.e., madness.
I wonder if, in this case, from a game-play perspective, the bug involves breaking restrictions on PvP. It looks like Kingdoms of Arkerra allows PvP based on faction membership, but the Cult practices unrestricted PvP.
In the old MMO, Asheron’s Call, in order to participate in PvP, one had to go through a quest in which one performed a ritual that bound one to a being that was generally perceived as evil. There were sometimes references to PvPers as members of a cult.
Oh, so Byron used to be a normal berzerker, but it was the cultists who made him into a super-berzerker, thus explaining why he never had super amounts of angst regarding his berzerking before.
This, of course. Frigg’s death is implied by her mace being in Rachel’s possession. T’s writing tends to be very concise. This is a great example of storytelling efficiency. It adds to the amount of atrocities committed without depicting an extra corpse.
I got to say, I’m way more into the cultist storyline than I am the rebellion storyline. An adventure to stop the cultists would be a lovely change of pace.
“The World’s Rebellion” is what they call themselves, and Syr’Nj uses the term because she refuses to rob the enemy of their dignity like Gastonia would with what they call them: “The Savage Races.”
Yeah, and Gravedust is also more likely to use the former term. He may have his differences with the Savasi, perhaps irreconcilable ones, but he would rather not refer to them as “Savages.” Not all the Peacemakers are as enlightened about this.
I kind of think Ardaic doesn’t understand the role he and Gastonia actually play.
See there are PC’s and then there are NPC’s.
Gastonia is kind of like a shirt you wear, you wear it because it sets off your eyes. The shirt isn’t important, in and of itself. If the shirt gets dirty, or has a bad hole in it, you take it off and put on another one.
Ardaic just needs to learn he is a straight man, nothing more. He is to provide support. Gastonia is to provide deus ex machina things on occasion, or provide antagonists at times.
This is their place in the natural order. To be blunt Harky is more important to the narrative than Gastonia is.
NPC’s need to learn their place, once and for all.
Or maybe Ardaic understands perfectly that PVP is where the money is, so the long-term focus needs to be kept on the Gastonia-Savages conflict rather than having the players go off on pointless raids against cultists (which may turn out to be devs in disguise anyway).
Of course, if Gravedust explains that the Cult Monster might eventually drop the Holy McGuffin of Plot Resolving, which is their _only hope_ ™ against the Savages…
Ardaic is a visionary in this respect but alas Harky’s shamanistic visions will unite them all together against the greater evil until he is eventually replaced by a raging pair of shoulderpads.
yet this is only true from the perspective of gastonian toons – if a player rolls a savage races character, then the leader and driving force behind the millitary keeping your own people down and preventing freedom etc
well, thats a mahor character that needs to be taken care of, no? :P
I wonder if your “NPCs need to learn their place” also applies to Bandit.
But then, I also wonder if you actually believe what you’re saying at all.
(To be clear, I do not. Sepia World is less, not more, important to the Guilded Age story than the world that actually has all the colors, and any form of “Shanna stopped H.R., the MMORPG got shut down, and Sy’rnj, Penk, and all the other characters there disappeared midbattle, with the story treating them as irrelevant because, really, they always were” would be an awful ending.)
I never considered that Shanna could pull the plug on the whole thing, but it’s an interesting idea. Maybe the black door that Sundar is facing actually doesn’t represent HR but some sort of in potentia effect that Shanna’s meddling could have on the world?
That brings to mind a question I have. Do you have any idea what book has the strips that had the people detailed, the ones going into the tanks?
I know that:
Byron
Gravedust
Syrinj (okay not clear on where to put apostrophe)
Frigg
Are definitely tank people. Payet Best was, or still is, or something as well.
That is 5. I was kind of thinking Bandit is too. We never really got any resolution about her resurrection, or one that satisfied me. Something was fishy about it.
But now we have others who are important in the story now: Scipio, Emerl, Sundar, Rachel (and I keep waiting to see what they do with Rendar, arguably the most potentially world changing char I have seen). They aren’t actually in tanks in our world surely? So are they characters played by real world players, npc’s, or entities native to this particular fantasy world?
I keep reading this thing because the premise interests me, and I want to see where it goes. But it sure seems to take a while to get any movement going.
I think stories can get dragged out too long (Order of the Stick). There has to be some movement towards a resolution sometime. Heck the author of The Wheel of Time books died before he wrapped his story up.
Comic books go on forever, but most webcomics, including this one seem like they are different animals.
Don’t believe we have ever seen them being put into the tubes, and the most we have seen have been silhouetted colour-coded body-shapes already in the tubes
Let’s see, the rebels whom you’ve been fighting on the front lines and who just recently recently reached the limelight or the cultists who have been there for several years and have never been an extremely significant problem before?
Oh yeah, Crossed. I had to look at the comments to be reminded it existed. Not Ennis’ best work. He’s pretty hit and miss as a writer, really. There’s some really good Garth Ennis stuff and then there’s stuff that isn’t. Still, when I read the first volume it didn’t seem that bad. Just not particularly good. It helps if you’ve hit the point where your reaction to gore is ‘booooring’, though.
Alt. Text: Shots Fired.
If I knew what “Crossed” was, I could decide whether to be shocked, offended, smug, or amused.
Meh, I’ll settle for amused.
Pretty much the only SFW link to explain Crossed The webcomic version opened with someone doing something unnatural to a dead dolphin.
I just confirmed this. Its pretty nar bar.
So I’ve read through the first volume.
Apart from being god-damned harrowing initially, it’s not that bad. I could see it getting stale over the other four volumes though.
Worst part is, I’m starting to acclimate to it.
It’s not bad at all IMHO, though some of the later volumes (and there are LOTS) get a little narmy at times. It’s the only modern reimagining of the zombie apocalypse trope that feels right for this day and age. (The shambling cannibal thing has to be passé by now, despite the persistant popularity.)
“Crossed” isn’t a comic book. It’s an endurance challenge. How much death, horror, rape and madness can you sit through before you throw up or just sorrow for humanity?
Depends on how long you can hold on that “It’ll get better (for the ‘heroes’)” thing.
Nope. As long as plusfaces are involved, it’s It Got Worse: The Worsening Part II: Pandemic Boogaloo.
To be honest, I read through the whole 3 and a half volumes that’s up, and, well, it’s pretty awesome.
In a weird way.
You see, when you’re already dull to all the gore and carnage, and it just won’t shock you anymore, this comic will do it. Not with more blood and guts (since you’re numbed down to that already) but with presenting you with just how terrible humans can be.
I don’t wanna spoil anything, but Shakespear… That bastard…
PS: Thank you Alt Text and Kamino for pointing me to the direction of this comic. I don’t know how to say what else I want to say.
This here? This pretension that it’s saying anything about ‘just how terrible humans can be’? That’s the part that puts the lie to ‘well written’.
It’s a typical Ennis ‘let’s throw the sickest shit we can think of out there, and call it commentary’.
It’s not scary, it’s not revelatory. It’s offensive, it’s gross, and worst of all, it’s trite and boring.
Did Ennis call it commentary? I don’t remember the original volume being preachy about any part of the whole situation. There was no “OMG the zombies are like us” moment, no “the living are the real threat” cliche.
It is “the sickest shit we can think of” but only *if* we’re thinking about an apocalyptic collapse of human society. If you’re not at least a little scared by the concept of crazed, contagious, sadomasochistic murderers and rapists with no magical weak spots, capable of using vehicles, firearms, and just about every advantage the living are normally given in these scenarios… then I don’t want to know what does scare you.
“Gross” does not cancel out “scary”, and “revelatory” was never really implied. “Trite and boring” is of course an entirely subjective designation.
Generally, things that are reasonable, or at worst require only accepting the supernatural.
‘Everyone is a necrobestialist cannibal rapist just waiting to be released’, on the other hand, isn’t scary, it’s absurd.
Sooo… Lord of the Flies does nothing for you?
I’ve led a fairly sheltered life, but still have no real issue with the premise you describe. I’m perfectly capable of accepting that, stripped of the social structure imposed over the millennia, the human intellect would just dial the basic instincts that remain up to eleven.
The “supernatural” that needs to be accepted there would be the mechanism of facilitating such a ridiculously complex reworking of the psyche in an instant, but suspension of disbelief is just enough to cover that.
I’ve not read it, but I believe the plot of Lord of the Flies is not “Children are isolated, immediately begin butchering and sodomising each other.”
Maybe you can make points through exaggeration, but if you make it implausible, it doesn’t work for a lot of us.
Stripped of millennia of social structure, we’d make another social structure. It would perhaps be more violent, but not hostile to all life.
Kind of like Lord of the Flies. That’s scary because it’s plausible.
Social behavior IS instinct.
I’ve only read the Wikipedia plot summary, but I really don’t think it’s about humans.
How horrible we COULD be in a hypothetical scenario, but not CAN. Humans need motives. We don’t just kill people, we have reasons! Terrible, twisted reasons, but reasons nonetheless.
It sounds a bit over the top and not really my thing, so I don’t think I’ll be reading it.
Have seen the covers in the Comic Previews book each month, and that is more than enough thankyouverymuchly (gratuitous violence towards women really gets me angry, almost boycotted The Addams Family movies because of one episode of The Sandman)
Wait, what happened in the Addams Family movies?
Seconding the question. From what I understand of it, The Sandman possibly made a negative reference to the movies? The first what springs to mind concerning violence towards women with the Addamses is Wednesday’s decapitated doll Marie-Antoinette. Another thing being Uncle Fester, but possibly also Granny, enjoying being put on the rack.
“24 hours” – Issue 6 of Neil Gaiman’s Sandman comic is a horror story involving murder & violence. It also references The Addams Family theme from the ’60s television series. Nothing wrong with the Addamses themselves, but unfortunately connected to a comic that was deeply disturbing to (I presume) then young & innocent Guesticus.
One can find “24 hours” online as a .pdf by simply Googling “Sandman Issue Six”.
Yes, like said, it was just one scene in a bar that happened to be playing The Addams Family in the background, unfortunately for me that scene was linked to the TV/Movie series and didn’t want to be reminded of what happened, took me years before could watch the movie and not ‘flash back’ to that scene (still do sometimes, but the reaction/feeling isn’t as bad now)
Bingo! I figured it out allright! :) Then again – I guessed you didn’t want to be reminded of the comic as a whole, which is very bleak, rather than this particular scene, which is rather tame. (People off-panel having consensual sex, judging by their love talk.) Although it seems kinda off-putting to have Dr. Destiny present during all this, twiddling his thumbs.
Actually, it wasn’t “consensual sex”, that guy changed them into ‘beast-minds/mentality’, and one of the females was gay and in a relationship with another character in the story
I admit I don’t fully understand how Dr. Destiny’s powers work. He influences their minds, but it seems there’s still some free choice to their actions, if only in the direction John Dee steers them toward. Also, I interpreted the sex scene as some sort of down time granted to them by Dee, who doesn’t seem to be interested in the sex itself.
There’s no way to tell which couples are getting it on in this scene. Judy may just as well be paired with another woman, if that’s any comfort to you.
Funny you should mention Crossed because the Wish You Were Here webcomic is consistently one of the most horrifying things I read. I often click its link in my RSS feeds and wonder shortly thereafter “How can I be…seeing this?”
I have to hand it to Crossed, it makes 28 Day/Weeks films look like Disney flicks by comparison and it remains the only apocalypse scenario that actually frighten zombie fans as a whole.
Which is why I don’t really get that alt text dig. How exactly is Crossed “unreadable”? Yes, it’s extremely gross and an acquired taste at best, but it’s actually fairly well written, I think.
I was half joking when I made that dig. I agree, the first volume of Crossed was pretty good and worth a read… but subsequent stories like Family Values and Psycho are just… a little much.
A classic case of new creators missing the point of the first story being a tale of survival and turning the series into just straight up writing shocksploitational violence porn.
I have not read the webcomic version though I’ve heard it’s OK.
Family Values was so-so and Psychopath was pretty bad, you’re right. Some of the shorter Badlands arcs were even worse, story-wise and art-wise, although those are the exceptions.
I highly recommend the webcomic, it’s on par with the original volume… if you can get through the initial dolphin rape scene, which seems to me is there mainly as an early warning system for the more squeamish readers.
I’ve seen quite a few things over time on the ol’ internal network but dolphin rape was new to me.
I am going to say something, just because my avatar will look inappropriate in this context :D
It’s ok, Sundar’s got this. He might need a bigger sword though.
Having an I.Q. that’s roughly the same as your age in years is an advantage in his case. He’s not smart enough to know he should be terrified.
Only he knows how many things he’s thrown in there while waiting for the others, for science and stuff.
A borrower that destroys with a touch? Like my next door neighbor! Every lawn tool he borrows from me gets returned almost ruined! I’ve complained …
Wait … burrower? … eh … nevermind.
Could this be mini HR? Nah.
My brother managed to snap an “unbreakable” garden fork that had a lifetime warranty so my parents got a new one. Yesterday I accidentally bent it completely out of shape.
“Unbreakable” tools 0, aspen tree roots: 2, reaching in with my bare hands and yorking the things out like a badass: about 20 or so but there are always more. Always.
Agents of death… and also, apparently, of beards. Rachel’s is particularly impressive.
Gravedust looks like a deranged Santa in that first panel.
IT MAY JUST BE ME, BUT THAT HOLE LOOKS SUSPICIOUSLY LIKE PIXELATION CAUSED BY A CODING GLITCH.
It’s a game breaking bug. And the most worrying thing about the cultists is that they are using it to spread madness where every other player of a MMOG would use it to dupe legendary gear.
I figured it out….
Cultists are beta testers from the Arkerra Game Forums.
They are hacking into the unreleased game server!
From a role-playing perspective, exploits that grant significant game-play advantages often require, or lead to, wildly out-of-character behavior — i.e., madness.
I wonder if, in this case, from a game-play perspective, the bug involves breaking restrictions on PvP. It looks like Kingdoms of Arkerra allows PvP based on faction membership, but the Cult practices unrestricted PvP.
In the old MMO, Asheron’s Call, in order to participate in PvP, one had to go through a quest in which one performed a ritual that bound one to a being that was generally perceived as evil. There were sometimes references to PvPers as members of a cult.
Or, when an NPC gets taken over by a 12 year old on spring break… things are bad.
Oh, so Byron used to be a normal berzerker, but it was the cultists who made him into a super-berzerker, thus explaining why he never had super amounts of angst regarding his berzerking before.
How come Rachel is using Frigg’s maul on E-merl? I need answers!
Phallic.
The answers are all “phallic.”
This is a phallusy.
Frigg borrowed it to her and went on to become a professional blogger. This ultraviolence thing became too mainstream for her.
She killed Frigg first, it dropped.
This, of course. Frigg’s death is implied by her mace being in Rachel’s possession. T’s writing tends to be very concise. This is a great example of storytelling efficiency. It adds to the amount of atrocities committed without depicting an extra corpse.
You would think that would be BOE, if not BOA.
I got to say, I’m way more into the cultist storyline than I am the rebellion storyline. An adventure to stop the cultists would be a lovely change of pace.
E-Merl might be down with the cultists winning. In the first panel he’s finally getting pounded by Rachel.
Why are the Savage Races being called ‘Rebels’? o_O
I think it’s because they call themselves “The World’s Rebellion”.
“The World’s Rebellion” is what they call themselves, and Syr’Nj uses the term because she refuses to rob the enemy of their dignity like Gastonia would with what they call them: “The Savage Races.”
Yeah, and Gravedust is also more likely to use the former term. He may have his differences with the Savasi, perhaps irreconcilable ones, but he would rather not refer to them as “Savages.” Not all the Peacemakers are as enlightened about this.
Okay, that makes sense, just seemed odd to me to be using the term ‘Rebel’ (forgot that that was what they called themselves)
because they are rebels – their the downtrodden races that don’t rule the world rising up to try and overthrow the actual rulers
sadly, however, a bunch of assholes got mixed in as well
They’re rebelling.
Well, at the very least they’re revolting.
I can forgive Ardaic’s response; as a military man, he’d balk at the idea of dividing up resources in the face of an immediate threat.
Gravedust has one hellva sell job in front of him…
Better hurry, the Summer Break is right around the corner…
I kind of think Ardaic doesn’t understand the role he and Gastonia actually play.
See there are PC’s and then there are NPC’s.
Gastonia is kind of like a shirt you wear, you wear it because it sets off your eyes. The shirt isn’t important, in and of itself. If the shirt gets dirty, or has a bad hole in it, you take it off and put on another one.
Ardaic just needs to learn he is a straight man, nothing more. He is to provide support. Gastonia is to provide deus ex machina things on occasion, or provide antagonists at times.
This is their place in the natural order. To be blunt Harky is more important to the narrative than Gastonia is.
NPC’s need to learn their place, once and for all.
Or maybe Ardaic understands perfectly that PVP is where the money is, so the long-term focus needs to be kept on the Gastonia-Savages conflict rather than having the players go off on pointless raids against cultists (which may turn out to be devs in disguise anyway).
Of course, if Gravedust explains that the Cult Monster might eventually drop the Holy McGuffin of Plot Resolving, which is their _only hope_ ™ against the Savages…
Ardaic is a visionary in this respect but alas Harky’s shamanistic visions will unite them all together against the greater evil until he is eventually replaced by a raging pair of shoulderpads.
yet this is only true from the perspective of gastonian toons – if a player rolls a savage races character, then the leader and driving force behind the millitary keeping your own people down and preventing freedom etc
well, thats a mahor character that needs to be taken care of, no? :P
I wonder if your “NPCs need to learn their place” also applies to Bandit.
But then, I also wonder if you actually believe what you’re saying at all.
(To be clear, I do not. Sepia World is less, not more, important to the Guilded Age story than the world that actually has all the colors, and any form of “Shanna stopped H.R., the MMORPG got shut down, and Sy’rnj, Penk, and all the other characters there disappeared midbattle, with the story treating them as irrelevant because, really, they always were” would be an awful ending.)
I never considered that Shanna could pull the plug on the whole thing, but it’s an interesting idea. Maybe the black door that Sundar is facing actually doesn’t represent HR but some sort of in potentia effect that Shanna’s meddling could have on the world?
That brings to mind a question I have. Do you have any idea what book has the strips that had the people detailed, the ones going into the tanks?
I know that:
Byron
Gravedust
Syrinj (okay not clear on where to put apostrophe)
Frigg
Are definitely tank people. Payet Best was, or still is, or something as well.
That is 5. I was kind of thinking Bandit is too. We never really got any resolution about her resurrection, or one that satisfied me. Something was fishy about it.
But now we have others who are important in the story now: Scipio, Emerl, Sundar, Rachel (and I keep waiting to see what they do with Rendar, arguably the most potentially world changing char I have seen). They aren’t actually in tanks in our world surely? So are they characters played by real world players, npc’s, or entities native to this particular fantasy world?
I keep reading this thing because the premise interests me, and I want to see where it goes. But it sure seems to take a while to get any movement going.
I think stories can get dragged out too long (Order of the Stick). There has to be some movement towards a resolution sometime. Heck the author of The Wheel of Time books died before he wrapped his story up.
Comic books go on forever, but most webcomics, including this one seem like they are different animals.
Don’t believe we have ever seen them being put into the tubes, and the most we have seen have been silhouetted colour-coded body-shapes already in the tubes
I just noticed how much Ardaic looks like Captain Nemo from Secret of Blue Water, or Captain Gloval from Macross for that matter…
Let’s see, the rebels whom you’ve been fighting on the front lines and who just recently recently reached the limelight or the cultists who have been there for several years and have never been an extremely significant problem before?
Gravedust, Fist of Hextor.
Hey Crossed is readable… I mean, once you let a bit of your soul die.
Oh yeah, Crossed. I had to look at the comments to be reminded it existed. Not Ennis’ best work. He’s pretty hit and miss as a writer, really. There’s some really good Garth Ennis stuff and then there’s stuff that isn’t. Still, when I read the first volume it didn’t seem that bad. Just not particularly good. It helps if you’ve hit the point where your reaction to gore is ‘booooring’, though.
Geez, just read that wiki entry on the Crossed series.
What exactly is the point of that work? I mean where does it go, what’s it trying to say?
Seems like an exercise in picking an open sore.
Didn’t de Sade do this in 120 Days of Sodom? Or maybe it is a joke, comic buyers will buy anything.
RAGEDUST, I WILL BUILD A DWARF FORTRESS WHERE YOU SHALL REIGN AS KING.
Also, that was not a question, Ardaic. It was a statement.
That’s not how you use arrows Gravedust!