The assistant to the lost souls just sent a lost soul hurtling into the unfathomably cold clutches of an oblivion of which no mortal mind could conceive.
Or that time you got really blackout drunk and don’t remember what you did. That’s what oblivion is like, except it’s happening now. (Which, okay, is a pretty big “except”.)
You seem to have survived not existing pretty dang well. As have all of us who are alive. Also: “proof” bahahahahahahaha! Clearly, you are not a scientist.
Survival implies an existence (a conscious one at that in this specific matter) before an event and after it. There is no one to say “I” before conception, no “I” to experience anything at all then. That would include the experience of nothingness. But then, should there be someone at all to experience anything, such would by definition not be an experience of nothingness- that would be an experience of one’s self existing and all other experiences that come with it.
As for your accusation, even within the realm of science, what does exist prior to a person’s conception is not a person to begin with- it’s at the least matter from which a person can be formed, or at most cells from two different human beings- I still don’t exist and have the capacity to experience anything. At the same time, my parents (or the donors of the cells that formed me) don’t experience nothingness either in the act of conception.
You can think I’m no scientist, but you’re just not making sense. What you’ve been saying are purely logical contradictions that don’t mean anything while ignoring what’s actually been happening in the story. If what the Beast was doing- if being reduced to nothingness- was truly “Ain’t no big thang,” the Beast’s victims wouldn’t be screaming so hard (to the point of throwing in a Matrix reference) and the Champions and Adventurers wouldn’t be fighting so hard.
That depends on the intended purpose of the arrow. Spinning will increase stability, and therefore accuracy. So most arrows with symmetrical points are fletched to make them spin as they fly.
Gravedust, however, is shooting broadheads. Broadheads can bounce off of ribs if not oriented properly on impact, so they tend to be fletched to fly straight. (Some modern ones use other tricks like being able to rotate separately from the shaft to get the best of both worlds, but they would be highly expensive to manufacture at this tech level.)
Which gets interesting, because it’s odd that an adventurer like Gravedust is using broadheads with the head aligned vertically. Those would work best on animals due to the vertical slits in their ribcages. For hunting humanoids you’d want the head aligned horizontally…
Perhaps the fact that he imbues his arrows with souls renders the alignment irrelevant…
Not necessarily. As long as your bow has a decent draw weight, bouncing off the ribs is not usually an issue (it’s about 30 pounds to break a rib, and you can get bows a lot heavier than that). At that point, a broadhead is used to inflict far more harm on the target. A straight-bladed broadhead (whether two or three blades) then causes a very large hole because it forces the flesh and bone outwards as it spins through. A variant on the broadhead uses curved blades, which drill a very narrow hole through the body. This gives far better penetration, and is much less likely to destroy the target entirely (I’ve seen a 70 pound bow using a three-bladed broadhead make a target explode because there was so much outwards force from the spinning blades). However, you need fairly good technology to make a curving bladed arrowhead and give it any strength at all.
You can’t just blindly apply the draw weight, though, unless you’re setting the point of the arrow against your target before releasing the string. The force an arrow exerts on its target depends on the speed on impact (which depends on draw weight at all points in the draw, draw distance, relative elevation, and the amount of energy lost to air resistance) and the duration of the impact (which depends on various physical properties of the target).
That said, there certainly are bows capable of shooting arrows through ribs, but a simple comparison of draw weight to rib strength isn’t going to tell you which bows are or aren’t in that category.
things we know now:
1: DigiHeap’s eye IS in fact vulnerable
2: DigiHeap kills souls (thats kinda….damn)
3: DigiHeap is much MUCH faster than any pile of digital compost has any right to be
4: Gravy is fscked. Utterly. Even if he lives, no soul is going to trust him ever again.
I wouldn’t go that far. This thing is new. Nobody could have predicted this happening (though any other souls with him right now are going “NOPE NOPE NOPE” i’m sure), and looking at his utter horror, he’s not going to ever try anything like that again on things he thinks come from beyond.
It’s more that one of Gravey’s primary abilities is actually a liability against this creature. If it gets a hold of one of his spirit-laden arrows, it eats the spirit, and that’s not good. He’ll have to be extremely careful.
what he jsut saw happen must be the most terrible and personally mind breaking thing he has ever seen. The full ramifications of what just happened is fully born upon his mind.
the cultist spirit did warn him. Few people get to witness the complete anti-thesis of their existence occur before their eyes.
I think it’s a bit more complicated. He basically just perverted his own mission in life by ensuring a soul will never move on to the afterlife. His actions doomed a soul, the very thing he’s supposed to shepherd and protect, to oblivion. I’m expecting a Heroic Blue Screen of Death, here.
point of curiosity, is there like, a vacuum effect around this thing? i feel like there should at least be a breeze going into the monster because its dematerializing the air around it also.
Maybe it just disintegrates souls and solid matter only, or as the beast is effectively a computer virus and with Akerra being a video game world it doesn’t recognize air as actually existing, or perhaps you’re right and there is a vacuum or breeze but there is no point in showing this in the comic, or magic.
That guy was already in the recycle bin, the Digimon just emptied it. He’s probably irretrievable though.
Change into digital champions,
To save the digital world.
Oh, wait… they’re already champions, so they’ve gotta digivole into ultimate now?
Err… I mean…
Thank you for visiting “Meow” dot com.
Yeah, those were pretty bad, can I: Go back… TO THE BEGINNING!
Kind of called it before Frigg blasted the Levbike on it.
(My original comment was along the lines of the souls going “nope, do not want to go anywhere close that thing”).
Looks like even the tags are erased when you get the bad touch.
I also saw it from a mile away.
It appears he was GRAVELY mistaken. (Too soon?)
I think he got the point.
Yeah, but eye think it saw it coming.
Eh, you gave it your best shot…
Gravy should bow out and give someone else a chance.
He’s plucked his last string.
…Still not as bad as the D-Reaper, if only due to scale.
And to be fair, a heckuva lot better than the D-eRper!
Yeah, public ERPers are the real scourge of MMOs, especially when they have the D.
Sort of read it as derpers, myself but anyway.
that makes it no less correct… >.>
The assistant to the lost souls just sent a lost soul hurtling into the unfathomably cold clutches of an oblivion of which no mortal mind could conceive.
That’s fucked up, Phil/Campbell.
Kudos.
“..of which no mortal mind could…” Dude, oblivion feels just like what it felt like before you were conceived. Ain’t no big thang.
Or that time you got really blackout drunk and don’t remember what you did. That’s what oblivion is like, except it’s happening now. (Which, okay, is a pretty big “except”.)
That’s nonsense. You’re talking about a person knowing what nothingness feels like by citing a time before they even existed in order to feel it.
I’m with Schneidend on this one; it’s the horrific experience of being reduced metaphysically to nothing- and we have proof that it’s NOT pleasant.
proof? source?
but one isnt capable of experiencing nothingness. the worst part about souldeath is worrying about it while one is still capable of doing so.
THIS.
You seem to have survived not existing pretty dang well. As have all of us who are alive. Also: “proof” bahahahahahahaha! Clearly, you are not a scientist.
Again, you’re speaking nonsense.
Survival implies an existence (a conscious one at that in this specific matter) before an event and after it. There is no one to say “I” before conception, no “I” to experience anything at all then. That would include the experience of nothingness. But then, should there be someone at all to experience anything, such would by definition not be an experience of nothingness- that would be an experience of one’s self existing and all other experiences that come with it.
As for your accusation, even within the realm of science, what does exist prior to a person’s conception is not a person to begin with- it’s at the least matter from which a person can be formed, or at most cells from two different human beings- I still don’t exist and have the capacity to experience anything. At the same time, my parents (or the donors of the cells that formed me) don’t experience nothingness either in the act of conception.
You can think I’m no scientist, but you’re just not making sense. What you’ve been saying are purely logical contradictions that don’t mean anything while ignoring what’s actually been happening in the story. If what the Beast was doing- if being reduced to nothingness- was truly “Ain’t no big thang,” the Beast’s victims wouldn’t be screaming so hard (to the point of throwing in a Matrix reference) and the Champions and Adventurers wouldn’t be fighting so hard.
Bad touch! Bad touch!
Strange, most arrows spin when shot out of a bow…
Arrows are shot out of bows?
All these years of using a slingshot… I’ve been doing it wrong. :(
That depends on the intended purpose of the arrow. Spinning will increase stability, and therefore accuracy. So most arrows with symmetrical points are fletched to make them spin as they fly.
Gravedust, however, is shooting broadheads. Broadheads can bounce off of ribs if not oriented properly on impact, so they tend to be fletched to fly straight. (Some modern ones use other tricks like being able to rotate separately from the shaft to get the best of both worlds, but they would be highly expensive to manufacture at this tech level.)
Which gets interesting, because it’s odd that an adventurer like Gravedust is using broadheads with the head aligned vertically. Those would work best on animals due to the vertical slits in their ribcages. For hunting humanoids you’d want the head aligned horizontally…
Perhaps the fact that he imbues his arrows with souls renders the alignment irrelevant…
Well I just learned some new things. Are you training to be an archery-focused adventurer yourself?
Odd he is using a broadhead. Should be a bodkin for armor penetration.
Not necessarily. As long as your bow has a decent draw weight, bouncing off the ribs is not usually an issue (it’s about 30 pounds to break a rib, and you can get bows a lot heavier than that). At that point, a broadhead is used to inflict far more harm on the target. A straight-bladed broadhead (whether two or three blades) then causes a very large hole because it forces the flesh and bone outwards as it spins through. A variant on the broadhead uses curved blades, which drill a very narrow hole through the body. This gives far better penetration, and is much less likely to destroy the target entirely (I’ve seen a 70 pound bow using a three-bladed broadhead make a target explode because there was so much outwards force from the spinning blades). However, you need fairly good technology to make a curving bladed arrowhead and give it any strength at all.
You can’t just blindly apply the draw weight, though, unless you’re setting the point of the arrow against your target before releasing the string. The force an arrow exerts on its target depends on the speed on impact (which depends on draw weight at all points in the draw, draw distance, relative elevation, and the amount of energy lost to air resistance) and the duration of the impact (which depends on various physical properties of the target).
That said, there certainly are bows capable of shooting arrows through ribs, but a simple comparison of draw weight to rib strength isn’t going to tell you which bows are or aren’t in that category.
Oh snap…
Gianteye However, Strength to
Laugns. A girl Hammer
Our Might It to
Warriors Muster Toast!
Yield. Enough
Real
Hoo boy. That was supposed to be 3 lined up columns spelling out “GLOWY HAMMERSHIT”.
The comments section is a harsh mistress.
Gianteye_ However,___ Strength to
Laugns __ A girl ______ Hammer
Our _____ Might______ It to
Warriors _ Muster ____ Toast!
Yield ____ Enough
_________Real
Like that?
Yes!
Thank you, Sensei.
Magda, stomp! (or somethin’…)
It appears that Gravy miscalculated…
by an arrow margin
NO THREAD FOR YOU
…..Oh, that can’t be good.
fffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff…
…UUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU…
DDDDDGGGGGGGEEEEEE!
NNNNN TIIIIIMMMEEESSSSS!
Bah, just an NPC´s soul. Doesn´t count. Bet he gave only shitty quests in live, too.
Probably still gives the beastie a slight power-up.
things we know now:
1: DigiHeap’s eye IS in fact vulnerable
2: DigiHeap kills souls (thats kinda….damn)
3: DigiHeap is much MUCH faster than any pile of digital compost has any right to be
4: Gravy is fscked. Utterly. Even if he lives, no soul is going to trust him ever again.
I wouldn’t go that far. This thing is new. Nobody could have predicted this happening (though any other souls with him right now are going “NOPE NOPE NOPE” i’m sure), and looking at his utter horror, he’s not going to ever try anything like that again on things he thinks come from beyond.
It’s more that one of Gravey’s primary abilities is actually a liability against this creature. If it gets a hold of one of his spirit-laden arrows, it eats the spirit, and that’s not good. He’ll have to be extremely careful.
what he jsut saw happen must be the most terrible and personally mind breaking thing he has ever seen. The full ramifications of what just happened is fully born upon his mind.
the cultist spirit did warn him. Few people get to witness the complete anti-thesis of their existence occur before their eyes.
There is only one way to read Gravy’s expression in the last panel: FUCK.
I think it’s a bit more complicated. He basically just perverted his own mission in life by ensuring a soul will never move on to the afterlife. His actions doomed a soul, the very thing he’s supposed to shepherd and protect, to oblivion. I’m expecting a Heroic Blue Screen of Death, here.
Or you could have said: See my Rabbi-gravitar.
Ugh. I called it, but I didn’t want to be right.
As worrisome as Gravedust’s mental breakdown is, I am more worried about that digital tentacle heading towards him at the same time.
THIS IS WHY YOU READ THE COMMENTS SECTION, GRAVEDUST
yay! the gold star still exists!
S’yrnj needs to whip up some SERIOUS anti-bodies for that virus, REAL quick!
…If only she were here to see it & run a diagnosis…
Gravedust never stood a ghost of a chance.
A spirited attempt nonetheless.
D:
well, there is one thing the players and the Thing From Beyond have in common I guess…..
…they both hate farmers?
point of curiosity, is there like, a vacuum effect around this thing? i feel like there should at least be a breeze going into the monster because its dematerializing the air around it also.
Maybe it just disintegrates souls and solid matter only, or as the beast is effectively a computer virus and with Akerra being a video game world it doesn’t recognize air as actually existing, or perhaps you’re right and there is a vacuum or breeze but there is no point in showing this in the comic, or magic.
Take your pick.
I warned you about stares, bro.
Yeah, gravity can be a real b!tch if you’re not careful going down stares.
I love how Gravy is all like dumbfounded. As if he just can’t wrap is mind around what just happened.