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Yay, we get to see a fifth member, for real.
This party seriously needs a Arcane caster. We’ve got a full tank, a support tank, a healer, and a trap-killer. Just need a DPS-whore to round it out.
Bandit to the rescue!
Bandit seems to be speced more towards the thief-evasion type Rogue, than the Assassin type.
We still have no clue as to the level of this party, but I would love to see a Human Wizard, speced-out with Energy-Sub Cold, Energy Sub Lightning, Energy Admixture, Lord of the Uttercold and Born of the Three Thunders.
I just have this thing for Cold-static Fireballs with Negative Energy and Hyper-Sonic damage.
Hypothetically, a rouge can out dps a mage on a single target. Sure, a mage is unrivalled in AoE dps…. but when flanking a target, a rouge can out dps a mage. Those chances improve if the rouge has a very good weapon and/or is a two weapon fighter.
Also, do they even need a mage? In my opinion it would be much more interesting for them to not have a mage. At the high levels, mages start to steamroller the foes. Also, Syr’njwill at some point be able to make explosives. There’s the answer to the AoE problems.
How often does a Party come up against a single target? And even when they do, a Rogue still has to be able to Flank to really be effective.
Based on what little we’ve seen of the Sky-Elves Arc the guilded league is looking at facing an army. At that point a Mage, of any type, becomes the Kingpin of any strategy.
Sure, our buddies are going to be having a ball, but without an AoE Mage ( Chain Lightning anyone?) to bang out the low-level army types they will have serious issues. Even if the army consists of a few hundred level 1′s and 2′s, that still leaves a 1 in 20 chance ( per 20 opponents) of a lucky hit disabling one of our heroes.
Even assuming that the GL would be sent on a sneak attack, they will still need to get through untold numbers of guards and minions. You’ve got to have a Mage ( Sleep…Charm..hold Person) to get though all of that with minimal HP loss, unless you like going up against the BBEG and friends when you are bleeding profusely and have already used up your healing potions.
I think this might be the point where we have to stop thinking of it as a game of D&D, then, because we’ve SEEN Bandit and we KNOW she joins the party.
I’ve in fact just been reading this as a story set in a (humorously anachronistic) medieval fantasy world in its own right, as opposed to an acted-out D&D game. The latter is a legitimate interpretation; don’t get me wrong. It’s just that I’ve never gamed myself and therefore whatever knowledge I have of D&D and other RPGs is secondhand. So I don’t naturally “think in D&D,” as it were. :-)
Also, IIRC, the only in-comic hints that the whole comic is a game, played by unseen geeks in our present-day world, have been the “Achievement Unlocked” inset panels emphasizing that Best is being a “douche.” We don’t see dice being cast, DM narration, players talking out of character, and the like, as in, e.g., the gaming sequences in Something Positive or Loserz or what have you. But again, it’s certainly a plausible way to read the comic.
I find it interesting to try and emulate the characters in a game (just like you might try to stat out Indiana Jones), but I don’t see that as actually being the case.
I’m familiar enough with D&D to understand the interpretations people are making, but I’ve never actually played it either.
More importantly, I want to see how far to the right we can get these comment strings to go.
I don’t think it’ll go much farther…
Ouch! My text…
“Hits or GTFO” is game-speek enough for me…
Warlock is Superior.
only in 3.5, the 4th ed one is ok, but not as epic as 3.5′s
4th ed one is actually pretty terrible. Sorcerers kick out more damage without much effort, and if you build a Wizard properly, they can be even more painful than that, whilst retaining all the crowd control abilities.
The Illusionist wizard in a 4e campaign I’m currently in is doing the same single-target damage as the Rogue. With higher accuracy. But against the whole battlefield. So yeah.
If we’re talking 3.5, then Combust says that Duskblade wins. (Or Daggerspell Mage, at higher levels)
Honestly though, not terribly important.
I would like to express agreement. Warcocks (Because they fuck enemies to death with their awesome) are the best caster-ish class.
Why? Because they’re NOT HORRENDOUSLY BROKEN.
“Because they fuck enemies to death with their awesome”
Just so you know, I’m totally filing this saying away for future use.
Yes, yes he is. Best striker around.
Anyone taking bets on how many people freak out that there’s going to be a flash-forward before we continue with the current story?
I think the fifth member is going to come from among, or be somehow met through, the sky-Elves. I’m guessing that the flashbacks are now over, and we will be joining our story, already in progress.
… I hope this is some kind of irony that I don’t quite understand. I really do.
I am right there with you…
Yay for Bandit! Can’t wait to see how she ends up in this motley crew.
IT’S BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANDIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIT TIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIMEEEEEEE!!!
No, Dad, no!
GO GO GUILD AGE RANGERS!
I was thinking more along the lines of the A-team. Frigg would be an awesome BA, she just needs to get a horse cart and paint it black with a red stripe.
And now I have an image of Gravedust smoking a cigar and saying “I love it when a plan comes together.”
Sweet. Nice cover for the next chapter.
Byron wins! That’s his hand on top, right?
Ah, but it’s Syr’nj’s hand on bottom, which means she’s the one who started the “hands in” moment.
I don’t know what you guys are talking about with the fifth member. There is Byron (1), Syr’nj (2), Frigg (3), Gravedust (4), and Bandit (5). Bandit is definitely the fifth member. There will be no mages. Gravedust is the closest thing we’re gettin’.
I want to say that I’m more then content with the party as it is, but I have to admit with all this mage chatter I wonder just what kind of mage (both in personality and specialization) would have ended up in this comic if that was how things were to be >.>
All for one and one for all.
United we stand, as divided we fall.
Ready to stand and answer the call.
All for one, and one for all.
“All for one, and one for all!”
“1, 2, 3, GUILDED AGE!!”
“Goooooo CAPTAIN PLANET!”
By your powers combined? Or just “By your command.”
“As you wiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiissssssssssssshhhhhhh”
Enough of this nonsense about wizards.
I don’t have anything against wizards. Nothing says, “Words can cut like a sword” more than muttering an incantation and cutting someone with enchanted swords into chunks of meat. (Bite-sized, if you don’t want to choke.)
But we have a thief, a Beserker, Fighter, Medic and an Archer who can’t miss. Why would they need a wizard?
How high is Byron’s CON? Mid-twenties? Good enough to outlast a few spells.
One… two… three………. Am I missing something? I only see four hands there. If bandit IS a member of this party, shouldn’t there be five? Where’s Friggs hand?
Please correct me if I’m wrong, I’d like more to know for sure than make a point.
What 5th member? The party actually has 6 members. The 4 on this cover are definitely Byron and Gravedust and probably Frigg and S’yn’rg. And if not that, there’s still Bandit, who’s less a social animal for sure.
And I don’t think Best is really going anywhere, he’s probably just on hiatus. After all, he’s featured in the 1st chapter, which is still in the future as far as I know.
actually, he isnt featured in the 1st chapter, only on the cover of the 1st chapter, unless i’m mistaken???
â€œTogether, we solemnly vow to kick Bestâ€™s ass!â€
A-F’ing-men! I am SO glad that bad excuse for a bard is gone.
You’re all reading too much into this! There’s five hands, and five people accounted for. Done. Over.
How many hands there are is not the key to unlocking every secret the webcomic holds. Like what Phil’s favorite breakfast cereal is.
I see 4 hands?
I’m going to burn down your house and kick your dog in the neck.
TraderInTown, you’re starting to make me very uncomfortable with your presence here, with excessively violent remarks such as that.
Keep it up, and you will be blocked from commenting.
You’re no fun at all.
I’m still hoping for a panel with Byron telling his drinking buddies “how it felt”.
“It felt like being unconscious.”
That’s like saying, “Does this rag smell like chloroform?”
“Does this taste like wood alcohol?”
“Does that feel like numbness?”
It also raises the question, why did Best monologue after he knocked out Byron? Then he can’t even hear it!
On the other hand, monologuing beforehand wastes ax-swinging oxygen.
True, true but I was more referring to the humiliation part. Getting “bested” if, after all, a pretty riveting experience.
if = is, goddamit
I would give him a break. The man was on fire not too long before this fight.
Now, now. Don’t coddle the berserker.
Pff, ’tis only a flesh burn. I agree about the break though, one in the leg area might wrap him up nicely.
Seriously, you think Frigg would join in a team building “hands in” moment?
If it was to give a ‘hell yeah’ for more ass wup’n to come, yes.
She actually plays well with others… when they’re PCs.
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