Those trolls are obviously approvingly intrigued by a church with the main credo of defiance.
No wonder they help building.
But, why are all disciples human?
And you still haven’t, if the first panel is anything to go by. Those scissor blades came from the emblem on her robe, which is why they didn’t need to cross each other in order to snip the skeleton’s neck. If they’d been radiating from discreet sections of her chest, the discrete points of rotation would necessitate a cross in order to meet. Since that wasn’t the case, as seen in the third panel, we can safely conclude that the light was coming from her solar plexus.
To be fair, she has a point. Practically everything good we see about us on this green earth was either built, or conserved, or both, by someone’s hard work. We have a lot to appreciate.
ah i see. Frigg makes a New Sisterhood. and going by what we know of her and the pillars in the Background it will be the “Sisterhood of F-off” ,eh i mean the Sisterhood of Defiance.
Indoor toilets go WAY back. Usually you were going directly into a running sewer sluice, or down a long shaft to an outdoor location; but you can totally do that with a roof.
I say “usually” because the Indus Valley civilization developed flush toilets (albeit flushed manually, by pouring water directly in the cistern) somewhere in the 2500-3000 BCE range. A rare verified case of long-lost ancient technology finally rediscovered millennia later!
Sigh. Every time I click on the “Guilded Age” bookmark these days, it’s half in joyful anticipation, half in fear that this will be the last one. I am SO going to miss this world, and the creatures in it, and the comments on it.
That’s… really not a great counter.
– Thesis: dead orphans, unpunished abuse, world’s natural cruelty
– Antithesis: towns, trade, indoor toilets
A “yes but” type of response. It’s like someone in the RW smugly pointing to their iPhone in reply to a claim of horrible working conditions in Southeast Asia.
Hey, I’ll defend my god-given right to indoor toilets tooth and nail… but it’s neither a solution nor a counter to the universal concept of human misery. The lich says “You’ve no jurisdiction over me because the night is dark and full of terrors”, and she responds “Well at least I don’t shit in the woods, so there.”
Heh. I like that. But I don’t think that was the point she was driving at. to me, it came off more like this…
Lich: “It’s a dog eat dog world. Everyone is out for themselves”
Initiate: “The world we have couldn’t exist with out cooperation. And without cooperation, we don’t have indoor toilets.”
He’s definitely saying that it’s every man for himself while she’s pointing how much progress has been made through unity, using a hint of comedy. Using the bastion of humanity, the unthinkable, the culmination of the world’s knowledge, the indoor toilet.
If the lich were real an not just E-Gurl’s illusion, he’d probably point out that the cultists were highly cooperative in their search for universal annihilation. Also Gastonians in their hegemonic oppression. The ability of intelligent beings to cooperate does nothing to deny their basic cruelty and selfishness – we cooperate when it furthers our goals. Those goals are often extremely shitty and self-serving.
I can’t entirely agree. The ability of intelligent beings to cooperate at least demonstrates that they’re willing to put their selfish impulses on hold long enough to achieve something together. Sure, selfishness continues to exist in a shared society on every level, but to say we’re nothing more than that denies the evidence.
The lich’s speech is a version of the doubts that I (and I suspect a lot of people) grapple with every day, but ultimately his world-view is more limited than Daisy’s. He doesn’t believe robust good really exists (“fear is all you are”), whereas Daisy knows of the existence of robust good and evil. If she didn’t know there was evil in the world, she wouldn’t be here.
To regard group behaviour as non-selfish is a grave misunderstanding. The notion of self operates on multiple levels, from the median will of the collective unconscious to the physically self-serving influence of genes.
To even regard selfishness as undesirable is collectivist propaganda. As though submitting oneself to be a mere cell in a larger self-serving amoeboid organism (competing against other like-structured collectives) were any more noble a goal than being a lone individual (made up of cells, even so). Being bigger doesn’t make it better. And “I like this” doesn’t magically become “robust good” just because multiple people agree on it.
All this moral nonsense is just a farcical excuse for people doing what people (and life in general) do anyway: Making their surroundings more like themselves. To consume and assimilate is the nature of life. The only other option is destruction of the self, by one’s own hands or the consumption of others.
SotiCoto, more than anything, I find it faintly amazing to have this discussion more than a year after the series ended. It’s one thing when you show up late to complain about how much others like wordplay, but when you start going after some of my core ethics and calling them “farcical, moral nonsense,” well.
it’s kind of wild that you think I’m endorsing becoming a “mere cell” in a scene featuring Frigg and E-Merl (two people whom nobody has ever accused of being mindless lockstep conformists) bringing up a new generation of heroes. God knows their own backgrounds show that Guilded Age acknowledges the group can be a tyrant to the individual. There is more nuance in fiction than is often allowable in tweet-sized philosophy bites, which is one reason I prefer it.
Even so, I don’t have a lot of common ground with this. I believe in morality. I believe in good and evil. I believe in society. I think we can, should, and must rise above mere self-directed assimilation. Claiming that our efforts to improve society are a mere cover for just doin’ what we’ve always done– well, I’m afraid that just makes me recall my favorite line of Gordon McAlpin’s: “Cynicism is a cop-out.”
E-Merl’s cosplaying Roy Mustang these days?
I approve.
Just noticed the columns are shaped like middle fingers. My compliments to the architect.
Ah, okay, yeah. That makes more sense than what I saw.
Get your mind out of the gutter!
:)
It’s Frigg’s temple; I’ll think what I want and you can’t stop me.
Now that’s a religion I can get behind. *bats eyelashes*
The Frigg salute. One half of the peace sign.
Those trolls are obviously approvingly intrigued by a church with the main credo of defiance.
No wonder they help building.
But, why are all disciples human?
Might perhaps be that the power is exclusive to humans? Or, perhaps the Trolls are also disciples, but also happen to be the better builders.
Okay, that’s a pretty sweet coat.
Indoor toilets are worth fighting for.
…yes, I’m aware of your sexy cake shop. ;)
Um…
Admittedly, it is a very Frigg-like thing to be concerned about.
I”ve never seen a breast ray decapitation in this comic before, if mammary serves me correctly…
Titter. You big booby!
And you still haven’t, if the first panel is anything to go by. Those scissor blades came from the emblem on her robe, which is why they didn’t need to cross each other in order to snip the skeleton’s neck. If they’d been radiating from discreet sections of her chest, the discrete points of rotation would necessitate a cross in order to meet. Since that wasn’t the case, as seen in the third panel, we can safely conclude that the light was coming from her solar plexus.
I get that but it does look like nipple lasers.
Reminds me of Aphrodite A and her boobmissiles.
https://www.sideshowtoy.com/collectibles/mazinger-z-mazinger-z-aphrodite-a-threezero-902270/
Nah, this came from the top of her sternum, not below it.
Stupid anatomical accuracy, ruining my wordplay…
So you’re saying she’s a care bear?
It seems we have been wrong about what “the weapons of a woman” really means…
We’ve learned that this unnamed novitiate really hates having to go outside to poop. (And who can blame her?)
Oh, so the Lich was E-Merl. Kinda.
I thought the wind spell it used looked like one of his, but couldn’t be sure what was going on. Now we know!
To be fair, she has a point. Practically everything good we see about us on this green earth was either built, or conserved, or both, by someone’s hard work. We have a lot to appreciate.
True, there is a lot of good, it’s just that a lot of people decide to focus on the negative.
Well said, both of you. :)
I wasss completely wrong.
ah i see. Frigg makes a New Sisterhood. and going by what we know of her and the pillars in the Background it will be the “Sisterhood of F-off” ,eh i mean the Sisterhood of Defiance.
Why are they building the top half of a cultist portal?
You…you’re kidding, right?
The arch is one of the most classic building structures in human history.
How else will they return to Cyberia to collect Digimon?
Wait— they have indoor toilets in this world? I wasn’t aware that they had developed the requisite infrastructure.
Yes, they have the infrastructure for that intrastructure.
Not to mention the Sanitary Movement. People had to get tired of disease and Poop in the streets at some point
If you have to rebuild from the ground up, you may as well start underground.
Indoor toilets go WAY back. Usually you were going directly into a running sewer sluice, or down a long shaft to an outdoor location; but you can totally do that with a roof.
I say “usually” because the Indus Valley civilization developed flush toilets (albeit flushed manually, by pouring water directly in the cistern) somewhere in the 2500-3000 BCE range. A rare verified case of long-lost ancient technology finally rediscovered millennia later!
Flush toilets: coming soon to a dank river valley near you!
That the writers take a bit of inspiration from Madonna concerts, apparently.
That’s ONE way of telling someone to eat shit I suppose.
Boob Lazers are best lazers!
Ah, it was E-merl. Now I understand what the wind-based attacks were all about. Wind and fire are his two amulet powers.
No, alt text. The way his robe was flapping around during the fight, we learned that “liches need britches”.
The lich was named Kobayashi Maru.
“There is no justice, there is just us.”
The true mark of humanity’s prosperity is indoor toilets, my friends.
They’ve already peaked.
I got to say, I’m digging E-Merl’s new duds.
A welcome back home
Bring forth your inner love, friend
For the man in green
Eh, I wasn’t completely wrong. Unnamed Woman was a disciple of Frigg, and Frigg was present, but she wasn’t the one playing the lich.
Huh, so I was right on the lich being E-Merl. One for me at the end of all things.
Sigh. Every time I click on the “Guilded Age” bookmark these days, it’s half in joyful anticipation, half in fear that this will be the last one. I am SO going to miss this world, and the creatures in it, and the comments on it.
That’s… really not a great counter.
– Thesis: dead orphans, unpunished abuse, world’s natural cruelty
– Antithesis: towns, trade, indoor toilets
A “yes but” type of response. It’s like someone in the RW smugly pointing to their iPhone in reply to a claim of horrible working conditions in Southeast Asia.
You sound like the kind of guy that would rather have world peace than indoor toilets.
You must be outta your mind, friend. Get help.
Hey, I’ll defend my god-given right to indoor toilets tooth and nail… but it’s neither a solution nor a counter to the universal concept of human misery. The lich says “You’ve no jurisdiction over me because the night is dark and full of terrors”, and she responds “Well at least I don’t shit in the woods, so there.”
Heh. I like that. But I don’t think that was the point she was driving at. to me, it came off more like this…
Lich: “It’s a dog eat dog world. Everyone is out for themselves”
Initiate: “The world we have couldn’t exist with out cooperation. And without cooperation, we don’t have indoor toilets.”
Granted, she probably could use a better example.
He’s definitely saying that it’s every man for himself while she’s pointing how much progress has been made through unity, using a hint of comedy. Using the bastion of humanity, the unthinkable, the culmination of the world’s knowledge, the indoor toilet.
I think the line about indoor plumbing may have been a reference to an episode of MASH.
If the lich were real an not just E-Gurl’s illusion, he’d probably point out that the cultists were highly cooperative in their search for universal annihilation. Also Gastonians in their hegemonic oppression. The ability of intelligent beings to cooperate does nothing to deny their basic cruelty and selfishness – we cooperate when it furthers our goals. Those goals are often extremely shitty and self-serving.
I can’t entirely agree. The ability of intelligent beings to cooperate at least demonstrates that they’re willing to put their selfish impulses on hold long enough to achieve something together. Sure, selfishness continues to exist in a shared society on every level, but to say we’re nothing more than that denies the evidence.
The lich’s speech is a version of the doubts that I (and I suspect a lot of people) grapple with every day, but ultimately his world-view is more limited than Daisy’s. He doesn’t believe robust good really exists (“fear is all you are”), whereas Daisy knows of the existence of robust good and evil. If she didn’t know there was evil in the world, she wouldn’t be here.
To regard group behaviour as non-selfish is a grave misunderstanding. The notion of self operates on multiple levels, from the median will of the collective unconscious to the physically self-serving influence of genes.
To even regard selfishness as undesirable is collectivist propaganda. As though submitting oneself to be a mere cell in a larger self-serving amoeboid organism (competing against other like-structured collectives) were any more noble a goal than being a lone individual (made up of cells, even so). Being bigger doesn’t make it better. And “I like this” doesn’t magically become “robust good” just because multiple people agree on it.
All this moral nonsense is just a farcical excuse for people doing what people (and life in general) do anyway: Making their surroundings more like themselves. To consume and assimilate is the nature of life. The only other option is destruction of the self, by one’s own hands or the consumption of others.
SotiCoto, more than anything, I find it faintly amazing to have this discussion more than a year after the series ended. It’s one thing when you show up late to complain about how much others like wordplay, but when you start going after some of my core ethics and calling them “farcical, moral nonsense,” well.
it’s kind of wild that you think I’m endorsing becoming a “mere cell” in a scene featuring Frigg and E-Merl (two people whom nobody has ever accused of being mindless lockstep conformists) bringing up a new generation of heroes. God knows their own backgrounds show that Guilded Age acknowledges the group can be a tyrant to the individual. There is more nuance in fiction than is often allowable in tweet-sized philosophy bites, which is one reason I prefer it.
Even so, I don’t have a lot of common ground with this. I believe in morality. I believe in good and evil. I believe in society. I think we can, should, and must rise above mere self-directed assimilation. Claiming that our efforts to improve society are a mere cover for just doin’ what we’ve always done– well, I’m afraid that just makes me recall my favorite line of Gordon McAlpin’s: “Cynicism is a cop-out.”
church of Frigg is not about indoor toilets, church of frigg is about F*cking gods (sometimes literally)
Lookit E-Merl being all Swag! Not bad Boyo, Rachel would be so proud of you
It just hit me: what if Frigg and E-Merl have become E-migg or Frerl? Could such a thing happen?
Omg! E-Merl has paid off his student loans!