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What, you mean you don’t like green shamen monk aspect jesus? He has more subclasses than a 3rd edition D&D character. Its almost like they didn’t want to try and make a new likable orc character, so they just reused one *cough* Wynn *cough*.
Anarchy is weird.
You see, you have anarchists that distinguish states from governments and who aren’t principally against laws.
It’s about hierarchies (or the abolishment thereof) and not having second citizen classes. Therefore, a nation-state is inherently problematic insofar it advances the concept of a “nation.”
Basically you have tame evolutionary type anarchists who used to be for unions and shit.
Eh. Anarchy isn’t that hard or weird. It’s simply a society based on the idea that there is no person or group of people who have a moral right to impose their will on others by force. There have been several such throughout history, it works at least as well as any other way of organizing society.
Anarchies have laws and organization just like any other system, they just grow out of mutual agreement between the various parts of society instead of being imposed by fiat by the local strongman. Sometimes this works out well, sometimes it works out poorly, but that’s no different from any other scheme.
It’s the varying camps that get me, I suppose.
For the most part, minimizing hierarchies and dissipating power sounds like a good idea to me. So does open source projects and unions. I also dislike nationalism and overt shows of tribalism. But that makes me Garden Variety Liberal, not an anarchist.
The other problem is that I’m not entirely convinced philosophically that initiating force is innately wrong nor that all moral authority is by nature violent. And my general impression what counts as the “local strongman” gets to be a subjective emotionally-charged evaluation by self-identifying Anarchists ™.
Democratic republics, working as planned (they don’t), don’t have a monopoly on force. But clearly, somebody disagrees with me. On the whole, I’m a Federalist in the sense that I think a centralized government is helpful for keeping more local governments from trying to behave like plantation fiefdoms.
Just to add my ha’penny (highschool Political Sciences was a very long time ago), one of the appealing aspects of anarchy is the philosophy of self-governance.
The political prejudice created decades or more ago was that anarchy = complete chaos, which was happily propagated by the ignorant and pop media (thanks, Sex Pistols).
Every single political philosophy has bases of great merit, all of which are easily manipulated and corruptible… Some with notorious failures (communism), others with notorious success (democratic capitalism).
I, myself, probably lean towards anarchic socialism.
Anarchic socialism tends to start fading when your tribe size grows larger than about twenty or thirty and the production level rises above bare subsistence. It simply becomes too complicated to just pay attention to who’s actually producing and who’s merely consuming and beat/kick out the shirkers. At that point exchanges of goods and services start being actual negotiated exchanges rather than blind co-operation, which has some overhead to it, but lets the society better prioritize allocation of resources on the larger scale, which gives them the ability to grow larger instead of stagnating.
It’s common for family groups within the larger society to retain elements of the anarchic socialism system though because they’re small enough to still keep track of each other.
Rule #1: There are no rules. Except for rule #1. Ummm…
There is no such thing as absolute truth. And that is absolutely true. Errrr…
My motto is: Only love, never hate. Except haters. I can hate them. Uhhh…
Acceptance is the key to serenity. (I am not very accepting of anything. But I can accept that) Arrr….
That’s true. And perhaps even Sundar. He did help save citizens of the World Rebellion from the corrupter beast and got along just fine with the trolls. He also tried to save orcs and hopefully saved Bandit.
You know as many times and place as you read about how the best leader is one who’s proven themselves on a small scale and have absolutely no interest in leading making the best leaders.
It’s a shame it doesn’t happen this way in the real world. Rather in the real world the ones with the ambition to get into leadership usually are the most unfit to hold such positions.
It does occasionally happen in the real world. When it does, it tends to make an impression that lasts for centuries. Just look at all the cities, streets, and monuments across the Western world named after Cincinnatus.
I think Cincinnatus is more of a national phenomenon limited to the lower geographical portion of North America.
The upper geographical portion of said continent has a strong contender in 21st century Modern History called Layton.Might actually beat out the former and current Trudeaux, but let us let history continue to develop a few more decades or centuries or so…
Syr just smirking like “Oh, honey, you don’t have to make it THAT easy for him!”
Really? I thought she looked proud of him. And also sexually aroused.
I was thinking it was a combination of smirking & being proud of him.
little of column a, little of column b… over a persistent background of column c…
I have been known to mistake pride for sexual arousal. You’d think I’d know better, especially since the pride was my own.
Syr’nj is sharing a knowing look with Gravy, not looking at Byron, but I think the humor still applies. ;)
I miss when Thrall was like this and not the focal point of…everything to do with the Dragon Aspects.
Oh yeah, WoW and TBC… after that his characterization kinda marched downhill. :/
Jaina, too (to compare it to this comic: Syr, kinda. Smart, ‘Royalty’, daddy issues get resolved by him getting killed to catalyze a global change)
Like Penk or like Byron?
Either way, yeah…
Thanks, guys, for having the integrity to keep your story consistent, unlike its source material.
What, you mean you don’t like green shamen monk aspect jesus? He has more subclasses than a 3rd edition D&D character. Its almost like they didn’t want to try and make a new likable orc character, so they just reused one *cough* Wynn *cough*.
I know Byron’s sitting and Penk’s standing, but right here P seems to just tower over B in stature.
Oh, I get it. PHOTOSHOPPE.
Tectonicus may be no more, but that jewel of his still seems to be working since Penk hasn’t shrunk back to his original size.
Face the facts Byron, yours is the right face for the job, buddy.
Good thing he shaved this morning.
Gillette.. The axe that men can whet.
That Gag was both amazing and painful and I don’t know how to handle it maggPi.
I like that Penk is speaking from personal experience.
well, best politician is one who doesnt want the job
Gravedust and Syr’nnj winking at each other in Panel Two…
Gondi is still my favorite.
Oh Byron, always leading with your face…
IKR alt text? I hope he give him a ‘are we really going to do this now?’ look in the next strip.
Yeah! Rules suck! Quick! Let’s abolish all the rules! Oh wait… that’s a rule too, Anarchy is hard.
Anarchy is weird.
You see, you have anarchists that distinguish states from governments and who aren’t principally against laws.
It’s about hierarchies (or the abolishment thereof) and not having second citizen classes. Therefore, a nation-state is inherently problematic insofar it advances the concept of a “nation.”
Basically you have tame evolutionary type anarchists who used to be for unions and shit.
Ugh. Yeah, then you start reading about anarchists who argue from the philosophical position that all monopolies on governance is inherently immoral.
Which is about as gross when a right-libertarian tells you that taxation is theft and that all initiated use of force is inherently immoral.
So yyyyyeahhh. I got problems with both those positions.
Eh. Anarchy isn’t that hard or weird. It’s simply a society based on the idea that there is no person or group of people who have a moral right to impose their will on others by force. There have been several such throughout history, it works at least as well as any other way of organizing society.
Anarchies have laws and organization just like any other system, they just grow out of mutual agreement between the various parts of society instead of being imposed by fiat by the local strongman. Sometimes this works out well, sometimes it works out poorly, but that’s no different from any other scheme.
It’s the varying camps that get me, I suppose.
For the most part, minimizing hierarchies and dissipating power sounds like a good idea to me. So does open source projects and unions. I also dislike nationalism and overt shows of tribalism. But that makes me Garden Variety Liberal, not an anarchist.
The other problem is that I’m not entirely convinced philosophically that initiating force is innately wrong nor that all moral authority is by nature violent. And my general impression what counts as the “local strongman” gets to be a subjective emotionally-charged evaluation by self-identifying Anarchists ™.
Democratic republics, working as planned (they don’t), don’t have a monopoly on force. But clearly, somebody disagrees with me. On the whole, I’m a Federalist in the sense that I think a centralized government is helpful for keeping more local governments from trying to behave like plantation fiefdoms.
Just to add my ha’penny (highschool Political Sciences was a very long time ago), one of the appealing aspects of anarchy is the philosophy of self-governance.
The political prejudice created decades or more ago was that anarchy = complete chaos, which was happily propagated by the ignorant and pop media (thanks, Sex Pistols).
Every single political philosophy has bases of great merit, all of which are easily manipulated and corruptible… Some with notorious failures (communism), others with notorious success (democratic capitalism).
I, myself, probably lean towards anarchic socialism.
We’ll see how that goes.
Ugh.
Success was supposed to be pluralized.
Anarchic socialism tends to start fading when your tribe size grows larger than about twenty or thirty and the production level rises above bare subsistence. It simply becomes too complicated to just pay attention to who’s actually producing and who’s merely consuming and beat/kick out the shirkers. At that point exchanges of goods and services start being actual negotiated exchanges rather than blind co-operation, which has some overhead to it, but lets the society better prioritize allocation of resources on the larger scale, which gives them the ability to grow larger instead of stagnating.
It’s common for family groups within the larger society to retain elements of the anarchic socialism system though because they’re small enough to still keep track of each other.
Don’t let my grousing stop anybody from implementing a Fully Automated Luxury Gay Space Communism though.
Huh. Sounds like you read the alt-text saga by the creators of “the end.”
If not, it’s a really spectacular sci if space comic by a Canadian couple. Everyone here should check it out.
Rule #1: There are no rules. Except for rule #1. Ummm…
There is no such thing as absolute truth. And that is absolutely true. Errrr…
My motto is: Only love, never hate. Except haters. I can hate them. Uhhh…
Acceptance is the key to serenity. (I am not very accepting of anything. But I can accept that) Arrr….
Byron: So how short of a list are we talking here?
Penk: A list of one.
Byron: /sigh
Ironically, a berserker is the only human everyone trusts.
Well, I could see Scipico on this list. He has experience as a ruler, too.
That’s true. And perhaps even Sundar. He did help save citizens of the World Rebellion from the corrupter beast and got along just fine with the trolls. He also tried to save orcs and hopefully saved Bandit.
On the other hand, Byron may be too good and moral of a person to be truly successful as a politician.
That’s why he’s a transitional governor.
You know as many times and place as you read about how the best leader is one who’s proven themselves on a small scale and have absolutely no interest in leading making the best leaders.
It’s a shame it doesn’t happen this way in the real world. Rather in the real world the ones with the ambition to get into leadership usually are the most unfit to hold such positions.
It does occasionally happen in the real world. When it does, it tends to make an impression that lasts for centuries. Just look at all the cities, streets, and monuments across the Western world named after Cincinnatus.
I think Cincinnatus is more of a national phenomenon limited to the lower geographical portion of North America.
The upper geographical portion of said continent has a strong contender in 21st century Modern History called Layton.Might actually beat out the former and current Trudeaux, but let us let history continue to develop a few more decades or centuries or so…
I am humbled, sir
Such great power comes to me
Surely at great cost