Well, they don’t need to be invincible to survive a fall. Just tough with regenerative powers which they are/have. Even humans irl can survive some pretty nasty drops though not without 3rd party medical intervention. Trolls are their own ambulance.
A lot of people (of all kinds) won’t wake up after this kind of party. I would think that waking up again AFTER the party should be a consideration before you attend it.
D&D trolls have had many incarnations and degrees of “regenerability”. Lately, the common accepted tale is that written and propagated by R.a. Salvatore (writer and creator of Drizzit) who specify that trolls behave like sea sponges. This way they can become a hundred different entities by slicing them to bits. There is even a part of the books that mention dogs and carnivores avoid troll meat because the new trolls can grow inside of them and rip them to shreds from inside-out.
I doubt those trolls are like that, with the amazing exception of Harky who can come back from the dead.
Funny story about that in Warhammer Fantasy. Grom the Paunch, a goblin war boss actually eat a plate of troll flesh and spent the next few weeks battling it in his stomach until he finally managed to win out.
Yes. In old-school D&D, where some anal DMs made you actually track your food stores, “troll rations” were a common solution. Take a cut of troll meat and trap it in an iron ration so that it couldn’t grow past a certain point. Open, cut some off, close, cook, eat, repeat.
Yeah, that’s kind of gross and cannibalistic, but playing racist, genocidal murderhobos (aka adventurers) has always been morally dubious business.
Seriously ? it’s ugly, hard as hell to take in hands and even when you actually know how to fight, you die within the first minute because there is too many people in the same map…
But I must admit I’m a real noob in FPS anyway, and it IS fun to watch.
That is sort of the point I think. Much as I dislike the Gastonian side seeing as how the World’s Rebellion is made up of races screwed over by humans, it is plenty likely that your average Joe Hugh Mann is just trying to get by and just gets caught up in all the propaganda of “Trolls are murderous liars who want to eat your kids” and etc.
Aren’t troll murderers ? See what they did when they went to that village Byron and Gravy went ? And when Gravedust tried to speak with the souls there ? Or when they went to Elves’ Forest and attacked anyone on sight, soldiers and civilians alike ? Men and women alike ?
What did the Elves do for that ? SO I think the “murderous part” is right, concerning Trolls.
I’m under the firm belief that we are all murderers, given a motivation and half a chance. Not saying war is always unnecessary, but with our backs against the wall, we will all kill for what we think is right.
Given a motivation, a means, and a buddy, we will all raze a city, kill the citizens and loot the bodies while the world burns.
People tend to do that, yeah, but in my opinion, war is always unnecessary. It weakens both sides, makes them poorer and creates paranoïa within their population. It only benefits to third parties, the ones that sells weapons or items your war doesn’t allow you to produce anymore, or that you can’t buy elsewhere because of an embargo.
See, in my opinion, War is never necessary for the reasons it’s fought. However, it’s completely necessary.
War is about the only way the Human Race is allowed to Cull itself. We have no natural predators that keep our numbers in check- aside from ourselves. There’s nothing keeping us from avoiding starvation- aside from ourselves. It’s terrible, but if you think about it, the more depraved and inhumane the actions of individual soldiers when they take a town, or a country, or a continent, the better for the human race as a whole- because those who survive are the strongest we have. Those who survive will learn from what happened, and will pass that down to their children.
I’m not speaking in the purely physical, either- though that is a large part of it. It’s also Emotionally, mentally, culturally.
Except that it’s the opposite of true, and the places in the world with lowest violent mortality rates, the most wealth, and the highest standards of living are the ones with the lowest (or negative) population growth.
Many of those places also control the population by arguably unethical government policies, and most of them completely forbid immigration unless you, yourself, are already absurdly wealthy. In many cases they also charge immense, absurd tariffs and have generally xenophobic and/or nationalistic cultural attitudes and resist globalization to protect their little paradise at the cost of the rest of the world, because, you know, they’re better than everyone else. Just like ancient Greece or Rome (sans imperialism).
I just got it…Grassy Gnolls…shall I assume that there was an assassination conspiracy of a human leader and the Gnolls were blamed for it and that was the validation for kicking them to the curb?
Lee Harvey Ostroll was thought to be the sole killer, but before he could be interrogated about a conspiracy he was killed by the mysterious Jacques Rubatani
This is one of those pages where I really have to question if it was necessary to include it at all. Yes, it’s very pretty and moderately funny and haha we’re all name-calling jerks, but you’ve hammered that in with however many chapters already and this page just feels superfluous.
Au contraire… the moments of nothing, they’re like beat panels in regular comics, but on a grander scale. Fleeting and beautiful, they give us a break from constant plot at every moment, which is always a little heavy. :)
It’s important to make your jokes as well as tell your story.
Plus, there’s some exposition in the beginning. We now know for sure that the savage races are attacking an area that is currently human-occupied (there was some confusion about that on the last page), and that the land was originally taken from the gnolls by the humans.
Fanged
Unwieldy
Rotten
Stupid
Troll
FURST??? Oh, forget it.
At Animal House, Flounder got very excited. But then, a single tear rolled down his cheek after reading your second comment.
Seems like the troll was the smarter one here. He’ll live, his opponent won’t.
The troll would survive such a fall ? Really ? They’re tough, not invincible. Besides, this one here isn’t Harky.
Well, they don’t need to be invincible to survive a fall. Just tough with regenerative powers which they are/have. Even humans irl can survive some pretty nasty drops though not without 3rd party medical intervention. Trolls are their own ambulance.
If the faller is the 1st party, and the medical personnel are the third party, who’s the second party? Is it the ground, or was the faller thrown?
And why wasn’t I invited to any of these parties?
A lot of people (of all kinds) won’t wake up after this kind of party. I would think that waking up again AFTER the party should be a consideration before you attend it.
…And THAT’S how you troll your enemy…
“…And now, together, they fight crime.”
MAKE IT SO
You fight like a dairy farmer!
That’s good, because you fight like a cow!
Gravy, quit arguing with yourself.
I am rubber… uh…
You are what you wear?
“You’re as repulsive as a monkey in a negligee.”
I wouldn’t have thought trolls could regen broken bones.
If they’re anything like D&D trolls, unless you hurt them with acid or fire, they regenerate anything, even being diced into tiny bits…
O_o You serious ? Survive being diced into tiny bits, with those tiny bits being set yards apart ?
D&D trolls have had many incarnations and degrees of “regenerability”. Lately, the common accepted tale is that written and propagated by R.a. Salvatore (writer and creator of Drizzit) who specify that trolls behave like sea sponges. This way they can become a hundred different entities by slicing them to bits. There is even a part of the books that mention dogs and carnivores avoid troll meat because the new trolls can grow inside of them and rip them to shreds from inside-out.
I doubt those trolls are like that, with the amazing exception of Harky who can come back from the dead.
But since acid is one of the things that keeps trolls down for good, wouldn’t stomach acid prevent that?
Funny story about that in Warhammer Fantasy. Grom the Paunch, a goblin war boss actually eat a plate of troll flesh and spent the next few weeks battling it in his stomach until he finally managed to win out.
As they say, ‘This too shall pass…’
Butt, I imagine the troll didn’t come out of that one smelling like a rose..
Jason
Yes. In old-school D&D, where some anal DMs made you actually track your food stores, “troll rations” were a common solution. Take a cut of troll meat and trap it in an iron ration so that it couldn’t grow past a certain point. Open, cut some off, close, cook, eat, repeat.
Yeah, that’s kind of gross and cannibalistic, but playing racist, genocidal murderhobos (aka adventurers) has always been morally dubious business.
Captain Jack is a troll? o.O
This right here is why Chivalry is the best FPS ever made.
Seriously ? it’s ugly, hard as hell to take in hands and even when you actually know how to fight, you die within the first minute because there is too many people in the same map…
But I must admit I’m a real noob in FPS anyway, and it IS fun to watch.
YOU MUST THRUST WITH THE POINTY END!
No.
It is the only solution. It is every solution.
“Pointy End goes into the other man!”
“This is going to take a lot of work . . . ”
Cheers,
Abcus
I watch them fight, and all I can see is just how similar they are.
That is sort of the point I think. Much as I dislike the Gastonian side seeing as how the World’s Rebellion is made up of races screwed over by humans, it is plenty likely that your average Joe Hugh Mann is just trying to get by and just gets caught up in all the propaganda of “Trolls are murderous liars who want to eat your kids” and etc.
Aren’t troll murderers ? See what they did when they went to that village Byron and Gravy went ? And when Gravedust tried to speak with the souls there ? Or when they went to Elves’ Forest and attacked anyone on sight, soldiers and civilians alike ? Men and women alike ?
What did the Elves do for that ? SO I think the “murderous part” is right, concerning Trolls.
I’m under the firm belief that we are all murderers, given a motivation and half a chance. Not saying war is always unnecessary, but with our backs against the wall, we will all kill for what we think is right.
Given a motivation, a means, and a buddy, we will all raze a city, kill the citizens and loot the bodies while the world burns.
People tend to do that, yeah, but in my opinion, war is always unnecessary. It weakens both sides, makes them poorer and creates paranoïa within their population. It only benefits to third parties, the ones that sells weapons or items your war doesn’t allow you to produce anymore, or that you can’t buy elsewhere because of an embargo.
See, in my opinion, War is never necessary for the reasons it’s fought. However, it’s completely necessary.
War is about the only way the Human Race is allowed to Cull itself. We have no natural predators that keep our numbers in check- aside from ourselves. There’s nothing keeping us from avoiding starvation- aside from ourselves. It’s terrible, but if you think about it, the more depraved and inhumane the actions of individual soldiers when they take a town, or a country, or a continent, the better for the human race as a whole- because those who survive are the strongest we have. Those who survive will learn from what happened, and will pass that down to their children.
I’m not speaking in the purely physical, either- though that is a large part of it. It’s also Emotionally, mentally, culturally.
It’s a terrible thing, but Life generally is.
Except that it’s the opposite of true, and the places in the world with lowest violent mortality rates, the most wealth, and the highest standards of living are the ones with the lowest (or negative) population growth.
Many of those places also control the population by arguably unethical government policies, and most of them completely forbid immigration unless you, yourself, are already absurdly wealthy. In many cases they also charge immense, absurd tariffs and have generally xenophobic and/or nationalistic cultural attitudes and resist globalization to protect their little paradise at the cost of the rest of the world, because, you know, they’re better than everyone else. Just like ancient Greece or Rome (sans imperialism).
Of course, the Gastonians have done the same to trolls for years.
Nobody did anything to anybody before about two years ago, it’s all just coded backstory.
I just got it…Grassy Gnolls…shall I assume that there was an assassination conspiracy of a human leader and the Gnolls were blamed for it and that was the validation for kicking them to the curb?
Lee Harvey Ostroll was thought to be the sole killer, but before he could be interrogated about a conspiracy he was killed by the mysterious Jacques Rubatani
Kingdom of Loathing did the joke better, I have to say. That has Degrassi Gnolls. ;)
At least they weren’t Gassy Gnolls. They can raise such a stink…
Jason
I hope they both end up in an medical camp in adjacent cots.
watching snarky, unshaven doctors in rumpled pajamas racing bedpans down the aisle.
” … choppers!”
Okay, so…. Which one is Ashok, and which is Ulak?
And will it really matter in later chapters?
Pretty sure Ashok is the human, Which makes Ulak the troll.
Buuuut the point here is the similarities I believe. So the difficulty to tell who is who is kinda the point.
Well, I think it is safe to say, both of them are active player characters. The latest expansion is officially IN.
Where did the human’s bag go in the 3rd panel?
You should sell it. For serious. It’d be an awsome minor Guilded Age reference thats extremely useful.
How is a bag useful? Watch MacGuyver.
It’s on the far side of his body.
The bag is on his right. The third panel shows his silhouette from his left.
That’s not just a bag, that’s a handbag :P
I love the spinning helmets. That is so a Warner Bros. cartoon reference.
Glad you enjoyed that, Veggie. I’m an old Warner toon fan from way back.
requesting a “mornin ralph.” “mornin sam.” when it fits.
Well, that & the fact that neither of them fell until they were *both* well over the edge of the cliff..
:/
This is one of those pages where I really have to question if it was necessary to include it at all. Yes, it’s very pretty and moderately funny and haha we’re all name-calling jerks, but you’ve hammered that in with however many chapters already and this page just feels superfluous.
Au contraire… the moments of nothing, they’re like beat panels in regular comics, but on a grander scale. Fleeting and beautiful, they give us a break from constant plot at every moment, which is always a little heavy. :)
It’s important to make your jokes as well as tell your story.
Plus, there’s some exposition in the beginning. We now know for sure that the savage races are attacking an area that is currently human-occupied (there was some confusion about that on the last page), and that the land was originally taken from the gnolls by the humans.
Once again, we learn that the savage races fight best when they can push people off cliffs.
The influence of Tectonicus at work?
“You fangless monkey!”
“Yer momma!”
“…whoa, hey, dude. That’s uncalled for.”
“Oh, yeah, uh…sorry. I’m just a little too caught up in the moment.”
We are trying to kill each other, but that’s over the line.
Killing people is indeed rude, but there’s no need to be a total dick about, I always say.
We’ll they can’t be dead yet, they have names.
LET ME HEAR YOUR BATTLE CRY!
WHERE’S MY COFFEE?!
BRAINS!
NOT IN THE FACE!!!
FOR PONY
*high-five, melts face*
LEEROY JENKINS!!
*holds out cute little bunneh*FWOOOOOSH!;)
Rawr.
RUN AWAY!!!
SPOON!
Getting so engrossed in a fight and not noticing the nearby cliff- actually a reality in most MMO’s one way or another.
This… is golden comedy! XD
… and I’ve finally made it through all of the comic, now to put it on my continually reading list :-)
JUST KISS ALREADY!!!