That last panel challenges the assumptions I’ve had about Carol: that she was the reasonable, conventional foil to HR, that she has been willing to overlook HR’s outrageous actions because she’s an ambitious, somewhat amoral corporate climber, that she was willing to cover up the murder because at this point, she’d be implicated, but she’s about hit her limit.
That last panel, though, suggests she may have had her own madness, in her reverence for HR, all along.
I think it’s more along the lines of her personally witnessing his godlike acts, which may or may not include bringing an entire universe into being.
Whether he actually created Arkerra or, as he fears, merely “discovered” it, remains to be seen. Even in light of that, however, he has unquestionably performed godlike acts, even if they aren’t quite as all-mighty — and certainly not as all-knowing –as the followers of Abrahamic religions may be led to expect.
The two had a conversation about the nature of Arkerra, in which she insisted that it was just a computer game, albeit one behaving strangely, and she was dubious about HR’s claim that he “discovered” it.
well she does know of some of his antics, right? Even if she did say it was just a game, it’s not like she is unaware of the world he seems to have nearly infinite control over. Nearly infinite, as there was that time he tried to kill off the players but they lived on anyways…
Frankly, I’ve always thought she was motivated by a bit of hero worship mixed with a little bit of suppressed romantic feelings; I’ve never gotten a read off of her as being ambitious except in the pursuit of the same ambitions she shares with H.R. It’s pretty obvious that she near worships him as a visionary, but this was a step further than I though she went.
Or… you know… it could be she’s absolutely correct… and H.R. really is a god…
To gods, paradise and the abyss would just seem ordinary. The world(s) they rule would be like MMORPGs.
What if the difference between Olympus and the Underworld is the color palette? Are all of us living on Olympus? Is Sepia World actually the Underworld? (Am I depressing myself?)
If the Arkerrans could see us, would they think of us as gods?
After eating boiled desert moss, I bet Dunkin’ Donuts and Starbucks would be the Arkerrans’ version of Ambrosia, the food of the gods.
It’s been awhile since I read the book, been catching up with Tiffany Aching, but I think ‘dropped’ is a bit of a tame word for the physics that went into that event.
Just the other day he did this trick where he put his hands together and pulled off his own thumb then put it back on without any bleeding and he can totally tell which card I pulled out of a deck!
If that’s not godhood, I have no idea what is!
Tesla was geniuser than Edison, less assholish than Edison, and CRAZIER than Edison. Sure, Edison fucked him over good, but I don’t think that accounts for all of Tesla’s foibles. Like the pigeon thing. Did you know Tesla was in love with a pigeon, and convinced it was mutual?
Genius is always open to judgment. Knowledge, authority, age, power, singularity of vision, moral certitude… there is no trait that makes you immune to the facts, better than the truth, inviolably correct, beyond judgment.
Or as I like to say it, if (hypothetically) God Himself told me the sky was orange, I’d look outside and then say, “No it isn’t!”
you’re right, but that’s not really a bad thing. We wouldn’t (or rather, we shouldn’t >.>) turn to Tesla to get his opinion on who should and shouldn’t be allowed to procreate, but that doesn’t mean he shouldn’t be respected when it came to his thoughts on what he was actually an expert on.
It’s like one of the other webcomics I read said: Just because a person is a genius in one subject doesn’t mean you have to take their word on all subjects. Don’t ask a chess master about war tactics “Send in the clergy! They can move diagonally!”.
His face, Cochran?
You think there was still a face?
You want a story? I saw a story once.
It was a story about a man who believed in a higher power, who carved a beautiful world out of numbers and sigils and blood
So very much blood
It pools, you know, in the head
When there isn’t a face to hold things together
And an arm was gone
And Ferris was the lucky one.
Yes, Ferris died. But he didn’t have to see what’s going to happen.
He won’t see what happens next.
Well, Ms. Cochran? You’ve got me all figured out.
You’ve got such a perfect read on me.
Did my voice raise that time?
Was I lying?
I think I’m beginning to comprehend why T and Phil chose to use Shanna. In some sense, it *had* to be Shanna; if it was any other character playing this role, saying this sort of dialogue in any production involving T Campbell, we’d immediately be thinking “Ah, it’s a Shanna duplicate!” anyway. As it is, using Shanna means those of us who read FANS are already convinced of her abilities in certain areas, such as this, lending credibility, which I suppose is a considerable bonus. After all, we really haven’t seen anything else shake Carol’s belief in HR for longer than a page or two…
Well, maybe this was their reasons, maybe it wasn’t, but either way I’m enjoying the ride!
Carol’s gonna spill the beans and, if this Shanna is anything like the Shanna I’ve been meeting in the Fans universe, she might get caught up in it as well. But probably in some role subversive to HR, such as trying to protect the 5 as they gather the information to accuse him. She’s moral, so the possibility of destroying a universe for the sake of the story will probably stop her.
Hmm… I dunno why but Shanna really, REALLY annoys me… Especially her earlier smug-faced appearences. That said, the point at which Ferris died was probably a point during which I no longer enjoyed the Real World segments of the comic… It became really …different? I guess thats the word. On the subject of tubes, I think one is for Ferris and one is for Shanna.
…Welp that was my mistake. Meant Carol, but wrote Ferris. Buuut… That may be an interesting twist if it was someone else’s body/I doubt Carol looked into that bag too much to find the head being there or not. Now imagining Ferris’ head floating in a tank.
When someone asks if your boss is a god, you say yes!
I don’t.
Appropriate avatar.
It’s like they know.
Okay, that is just uncanny.
Hmmmm…
Jesus, this is fucking accurate O-O
Oh – I mean, he’s a dog. Damn lysdexia.
Man, Shanna’s ruthless…and I love it.
Being good is not necessarily being nice.
And she is neither
Well, he IS God.
Just not in YOUR world, Shanna.
Workin’ on it.
That works with your avatar
Every comment somehow manages too
*to
Silly Carol, that was a translation error: H.R. is actually a god.
#ignorantviewsofjehovahswitnesses
It’s a god eat god world out there.
That last panel challenges the assumptions I’ve had about Carol: that she was the reasonable, conventional foil to HR, that she has been willing to overlook HR’s outrageous actions because she’s an ambitious, somewhat amoral corporate climber, that she was willing to cover up the murder because at this point, she’d be implicated, but she’s about hit her limit.
That last panel, though, suggests she may have had her own madness, in her reverence for HR, all along.
I think it’s more along the lines of her personally witnessing his godlike acts, which may or may not include bringing an entire universe into being.
Whether he actually created Arkerra or, as he fears, merely “discovered” it, remains to be seen. Even in light of that, however, he has unquestionably performed godlike acts, even if they aren’t quite as all-mighty — and certainly not as all-knowing –as the followers of Abrahamic religions may be led to expect.
What “godlike” acts has she seen him do?
The two had a conversation about the nature of Arkerra, in which she insisted that it was just a computer game, albeit one behaving strangely, and she was dubious about HR’s claim that he “discovered” it.
well she does know of some of his antics, right? Even if she did say it was just a game, it’s not like she is unaware of the world he seems to have nearly infinite control over. Nearly infinite, as there was that time he tried to kill off the players but they lived on anyways…
Frankly, I’ve always thought she was motivated by a bit of hero worship mixed with a little bit of suppressed romantic feelings; I’ve never gotten a read off of her as being ambitious except in the pursuit of the same ambitions she shares with H.R. It’s pretty obvious that she near worships him as a visionary, but this was a step further than I though she went.
Or… you know… it could be she’s absolutely correct… and H.R. really is a god…
To gods, paradise and the abyss would just seem ordinary. The world(s) they rule would be like MMORPGs.
What if the difference between Olympus and the Underworld is the color palette? Are all of us living on Olympus? Is Sepia World actually the Underworld? (Am I depressing myself?)
If the Arkerrans could see us, would they think of us as gods?
After eating boiled desert moss, I bet Dunkin’ Donuts and Starbucks would be the Arkerrans’ version of Ambrosia, the food of the gods.
Shanna’s going in a tube. Or killed, but I would prefer the tube.
She can be a gnome
I would prefer killed. I don’t need Shanna in Arkerra; and if she already has a well-known (to us) PC there, losing them will be worth losing her.
Killed ? But … but … why ? I’d prefer her to completely flush out those mofos at Hurricane. They must pay for their crime(s).
Bah, at best he’s a small god. Now, the turtle who dropped from an eagle’s claws onto the bald head of a prophet, THAT’S a god I can get behind. ;)
I love you forever for this reference.
Take my babies. Just take them all.
It’s been awhile since I read the book, been catching up with Tiffany Aching, but I think ‘dropped’ is a bit of a tame word for the physics that went into that event.
Still, awe beyond belief.
Found the paasage!
“…two pounds of tortoise, traveling at three meters a second…”
Not all that good with conversions but the math comes out to roughly 20 miles an hour I think.
Off the top of my head I’m getting roughly 13.
~6.7 mph – I think you forgot to divide by two :-)
Just the other day he did this trick where he put his hands together and pulled off his own thumb then put it back on without any bleeding and he can totally tell which card I pulled out of a deck!
If that’s not godhood, I have no idea what is!
HR’s got your nose! HR’s got your nose!
SORCERERY!
What about Tesla, the geniuser than Eddison, and whose life the latter destroyed?
Would you judge someone who, still to this day, holds the record for the longest man-made lighting, at about 40 meters?
There’s Galois, too. Look up that one.
Ahh… why must fortune always let is taste only a fraction of what they could truly do…
Tesla was geniuser than Edison, less assholish than Edison, and CRAZIER than Edison. Sure, Edison fucked him over good, but I don’t think that accounts for all of Tesla’s foibles. Like the pigeon thing. Did you know Tesla was in love with a pigeon, and convinced it was mutual?
Genius is always open to judgment. Knowledge, authority, age, power, singularity of vision, moral certitude… there is no trait that makes you immune to the facts, better than the truth, inviolably correct, beyond judgment.
Or as I like to say it, if (hypothetically) God Himself told me the sky was orange, I’d look outside and then say, “No it isn’t!”
Sure Tesla was a genius, but he had OCD so bad that sometimes he could barely function, and he believed in sterilization of the eugenically ‘unfit’.
you’re right, but that’s not really a bad thing. We wouldn’t (or rather, we shouldn’t >.>) turn to Tesla to get his opinion on who should and shouldn’t be allowed to procreate, but that doesn’t mean he shouldn’t be respected when it came to his thoughts on what he was actually an expert on.
It’s like one of the other webcomics I read said: Just because a person is a genius in one subject doesn’t mean you have to take their word on all subjects. Don’t ask a chess master about war tactics “Send in the clergy! They can move diagonally!”.
Galois just reinforces her point. I’ve never heard of a more insufferable person; why do you think he was killed in a duel?
His face, Cochran?
You think there was still a face?
You want a story? I saw a story once.
It was a story about a man who believed in a higher power, who carved a beautiful world out of numbers and sigils and blood
So very much blood
It pools, you know, in the head
When there isn’t a face to hold things together
And an arm was gone
And Ferris was the lucky one.
Yes, Ferris died. But he didn’t have to see what’s going to happen.
He won’t see what happens next.
Well, Ms. Cochran? You’ve got me all figured out.
You’ve got such a perfect read on me.
Did my voice raise that time?
Was I lying?
Beautiful. I tip my internet hat to you.
I keep seeing that piercing stare and equally piercing schnoz and imagining a red scarf over that mouth.
Who knows what evil lurks in the hearts of men? The Shanna Knows.
Aaaand scene change.
Really Carol? Texting during a covert meeting? For shame!
ticktickticktickBOOOOOOOOOOOM!
Clear delusion or crazy plot twist? You decide!
I think I’m beginning to comprehend why T and Phil chose to use Shanna. In some sense, it *had* to be Shanna; if it was any other character playing this role, saying this sort of dialogue in any production involving T Campbell, we’d immediately be thinking “Ah, it’s a Shanna duplicate!” anyway. As it is, using Shanna means those of us who read FANS are already convinced of her abilities in certain areas, such as this, lending credibility, which I suppose is a considerable bonus. After all, we really haven’t seen anything else shake Carol’s belief in HR for longer than a page or two…
Well, maybe this was their reasons, maybe it wasn’t, but either way I’m enjoying the ride!
Wow, Carol’s actually shaking her fist at her. Like, actually shaking it. I think some of H.R.’s love of melodrama has rubbed off on her.
Sooo Carol … you say he hasn’t killed anyone ? What about Ferris, huh ?
He wasn’t “killed”. He was terminated.
Possibly even exterminated.
They rehired him?
They rehired Ferris at a lower tier. Now, instead of department head, he’s just a hired hand.
(Actually, I can’t remember what his title was)
Carol’s gonna spill the beans and, if this Shanna is anything like the Shanna I’ve been meeting in the Fans universe, she might get caught up in it as well. But probably in some role subversive to HR, such as trying to protect the 5 as they gather the information to accuse him. She’s moral, so the possibility of destroying a universe for the sake of the story will probably stop her.
Hmm… I dunno why but Shanna really, REALLY annoys me… Especially her earlier smug-faced appearences. That said, the point at which Ferris died was probably a point during which I no longer enjoyed the Real World segments of the comic… It became really …different? I guess thats the word. On the subject of tubes, I think one is for Ferris and one is for Shanna.
It’s great, the way she keeps taunting Carol with her own impending elimination. Those are ten-pound balls, right there.
“I found out the secret. NOW WATCH ME DISAPPEAR.”
Ferris was demised by the company so he could pursue new job opportunities in the afterlife
…Welp that was my mistake. Meant Carol, but wrote Ferris. Buuut… That may be an interesting twist if it was someone else’s body/I doubt Carol looked into that bag too much to find the head being there or not. Now imagining Ferris’ head floating in a tank.
That harkens back to another jarred head…
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/ru/e/e1/Faceofboe1.jpg