It’s working, no doubt. Just… I wasn’t aware they taught “Physically Forcing Subjects to Look at You and Screaming in Their Faces 101” in journalism school.
Since when do schools teach you the useful stuff you need to know in your professional career?
Unless they went to school in Boston and were accosted by the activists in Cambridge that want you to sign up for something or other. Actually, now that I think about it, Shanna’s whole approach here has been on script for that kind of thing… she probably volunteered in college, knowing the skillz would come in handy.
Oh, this is about par for the course. Trying to batter Carol into submission with presumed moral self-righteousness. I’d have killed her on the spot just to shut her up.
The consequences are exactly what Shanna is forcing Carol to see. She’s not gonna let Carol be dragged into any more murders, like she was with the murder of Ferris.
If Carol is gonna get involved in any more murders, she’ll have to consciously choose to, with her eyes wide open to what she’s doing.
Forcing Carol to make a decision now might end up saving Shanna’s life. Carol is too much under H.R.’s control to make the right decision in his presence.
i really do hope she does get killed or stuck in the tubes. this is really kinda bull squat to me. Carol knows first hand what is being done is NOT murder sans that one guy. Shanna really has no idea she is trying to tear off the mask that is being used to keep the world sane and the demons at bay. If Shanna wins this, the world she knows will END.
So you’re making the case that because only one guy was actually murdered, it’s okay?
We, the audience, know that pulling the plug on H.R. may kill/permanently incapacitate/etc. our 5 gamers, but Shanna doesn’t. What’s given either way is 5 players disappeared after attending a game equipment test. That they did in itself is pretty wrong.
Throw in Ferris’ killing and the line between “H.R. should continue, if just for hope of freeing our entrapped gamers” and “H.R. should be stopped before he does even worse” grows thinner and thinner.
that’s nothing. i am more worried about the resulting mess of letting the whole world know that technomancy and magic in general really DO exist! if the world finds out about it, it will topple the power structures of modern civilazation as we know it. on the other hand, it could heraled in the dawn of turning the world in to a Shadowrun type world if you like that kind of thing. personally i think that is a bad thing.
The world turning into Shadowrun would be one of the worst possible outcomes. I’d much rather let H.R. keep killing and killing and killing. Can’t we just have incomprehensible demons and eldritch gods? Or Moon Nazis? Or… or… every person on earth except me being turned into my mother?
Magic exists? And what proof from H.R. do they have? 5 people in funky life-support tubes hooked up to an immersive video game? A dismembered arm? H.R. barely has control over what magic he has, or else he’d both/either a) be a god by now and/or b) gotten his 5 playtesters out of the system where their continued comatose captivity presents massive legal risk for him.
The scenario likely to play out isn’t the discovery that magic exists but that H.R., genius behind Hurricane, is actually a crazy killer who believes in magic while enabled by his assistant. Not “H.R. is a wizard!” but “He’s CRAZY!”
That’s already how Shanna looks at him. And it’s going to be no different from the cops to the courts.
dude, go back and re-read the archive. H.R.’s magic IS real! he can probably prove it in a court too. also it seems that His’s magic does more than stick people’s minds and souls into an altrnet reality. it gave him a bit a super strength as well. and it’s not just H.R. if other people realize it’s real, THEY will experiment with the mojo as well, and i shudder to think what THEY could produce. i don’t want someone to summon up some elder horror from the great beyond or something. THAT is why i am not likeing where Shanna getting the upper hand here. she’s likely to open up a pandora’s box of really bad stuff.
This is why I hate Starbucks. All the damn high-tech workers and their associated journalists accusing each other of murder and crying. All. the. Damn. Time.
Yeeep. Dont care what Shanna is trying to do but nope, really dont like her. Uppercut her, Carol! Of course… What happens on next page is probably us finding out she was texting HR and he walks up behind Shanna and KOs her for the tubes…
You can already see how this can unravel for her, though. She doesn’t have any frame of reference for what she’s really dealing with – either as a threat or as a story. If Carol levels with her, it goes poorly for Carol but I don’t think that actually means it’ll go well for Shanna.
Which…kind of makes me feel like I’m watching people play Fiasco.
I can understand Carol crumbling, she’s witness allot as of late but Shanna kinda nuts in her own right. Making the conclusion that “the five” being lock up at Hurricane HQ was a leap, a missing Ferris being a victim of foul play is a even bigger leap, screaming at Carol that shes a murderer…
Shanna is exaggerating, but what she’s saying isn’t untrue. Five gamers disappeared while participating in a game-related equipment test. Why should they disappear just for that, even if said tech is cutting edge? She found evidence of weird equipment that a game company normally wouldn’t have use for. Ferris disappearing is also a huge sign that something is wrong if he was just fired. And as far as H.R. and Carol are keeping all this very sinister stuff secret- even lying about it- it seems that the adage that “dead men tell no tales” applies.
It’s not that big a leap with Ferris – uncollected mail and newspapers are piling up at his house, while the person who claims she fired him has not only gotten access to his Facebook account but is actively monitoring said account to intercept anyone who tries to get in touch with him.
I mean, if you set up a meeting with someone via a personal social networking site, and then their boss shows up at the meeting instead to announce that they’ve been fired and not-so-subtly hint that there’ll be trouble for you if you don’t walk away and forget the whole thing, that’s a pretty big red flag.
I have to ask, does shana have some suicidal tendancies as she’s rather stuck on this idea of carol killing her. I mean, yes, it gets to carol mentioning it, but still says bad things about her mental state
It’s actually kind of embarrassing how bad Carol is at this sort of thing. There’s no excuse for not doing any planning if you’re the one picking the time and place of battle, and especially if you’re not experienced at improvising.
Executives tend to be horrible at BSing people, especially those of game companies if various twitter feeds are any indication, you’re thinking of Public Relations folks.
Dunno? The only thing that comes to mind is “as you wish” followed by repeated stabbing. If someone just keeps on insisting that you must kill them, who are you to deny them their mindset?
I want her to kill the journalist next page. I can feel it in my bones. “Look at the face of the person you will kill!”
I mean, that’s just asking for it.
With Carol screaming like this when I cop comes by to see what the problem is should tell them “This woman is harassing, stalking and threatening me.” Then wave goodbye to Shanna as the cops drag her away. Who would believe Shanna’s story of missing gamers and a murder over it, with no proof?
Yeah, after all those looks into her phone I’m getting the feeling that Carol’s scream is mainly to make it look like she’s being assaulted. Possibly to get Shanna arrested, or possibly to have Shanna dragged away by hired thugs without having any bystanders question it too much. Not that we’ve seen any hired thugs, and I don’t know if that’s something a game company would have on retainer. Maybe after getting rid of a dead body Carol figured that she’d better hire some thugs?
Homer Simpson: Who is it? Voice from Outside: Goons. Homer: Goons? Voice: Hired goons.
In all seriousness, though, I don’t think that’s what’s coming next. Carol, thanks to Shanna’s badgering and her own guilt, fear and doubt, has completely fallen apart. All her defences, threats, bravado and cover stories have failed her, and she’s screaming like a trapped, wounded animal. My guess is that she’s about to give in and tell Shanna everything. We’ll see in a few hours, though.
Wow, Shanna can really get into Carol’s head.
Seriously, if I had just started reading this comic, I would totally call “dream sequence scare”…
and judging by that last panel it looks like Carol is good at getting into Shanna’s abdomen.
Hey, she asked for it. Litterally.
She was too nosy for her own good.
It’s Carol screaming, not Shanna. Look at the hair.
Shanna’s still gonna die, whoever’s screaming :D
Yeah, but first she was looking at her phone. Maybe she’s screaming because Android doesn’t have a ‘Shanna-Go-ByeBye’ app?
That’s…laying it on a bit thick, Shanna. :O
She wants Carol to crack. Seems like it’s working.
It’s working, no doubt. Just… I wasn’t aware they taught “Physically Forcing Subjects to Look at You and Screaming in Their Faces 101” in journalism school.
Aw, c’mon. She’s just using the classic “good cop, bad cop” routine.
Without the good cop.
It’s a subsection in Paparazzi 101 – it’s a required course, but no one admits it.
Maybe she remembers the psychological tactics that were used on her >.>
IS SCREAMING NOT PART OF YOUR HUMAN EDUCATIONAL REQUIREMENTS!?!?!
Since when do schools teach you the useful stuff you need to know in your professional career?
Unless they went to school in Boston and were accosted by the activists in Cambridge that want you to sign up for something or other. Actually, now that I think about it, Shanna’s whole approach here has been on script for that kind of thing… she probably volunteered in college, knowing the skillz would come in handy.
Well, there’s nothing like a sledgehammer to do the job.
Oh, this is about par for the course. Trying to batter Carol into submission with presumed moral self-righteousness. I’d have killed her on the spot just to shut her up.
… Well… assuming “consequences” were avoidable, which in this Universe they well appear to be.
The consequences are exactly what Shanna is forcing Carol to see. She’s not gonna let Carol be dragged into any more murders, like she was with the murder of Ferris.
If Carol is gonna get involved in any more murders, she’ll have to consciously choose to, with her eyes wide open to what she’s doing.
Forcing Carol to make a decision now might end up saving Shanna’s life. Carol is too much under H.R.’s control to make the right decision in his presence.
I think at that point, as a matter of pure reflex, I’d have decked her.
A stun gun like the one Carol just used on her is easier.
That’s not a stun gun, that’s a cell phone. Carol’s the one screaming in the last panel.
So it is, always hard to tell who’s who when looking up their nose!
My first guess was a switchblade, actually.
The phone has a stunning Retina display.
Shanna’s really good at pushing things to the point where the only option LEFT is to kill her.
i really do hope she does get killed or stuck in the tubes. this is really kinda bull squat to me. Carol knows first hand what is being done is NOT murder sans that one guy. Shanna really has no idea she is trying to tear off the mask that is being used to keep the world sane and the demons at bay. If Shanna wins this, the world she knows will END.
sans that one guy? “Its okay officers, I didn’t kill those eight people you thought I did! Just the one who knew to much!”
So you’re making the case that because only one guy was actually murdered, it’s okay?
We, the audience, know that pulling the plug on H.R. may kill/permanently incapacitate/etc. our 5 gamers, but Shanna doesn’t. What’s given either way is 5 players disappeared after attending a game equipment test. That they did in itself is pretty wrong.
Throw in Ferris’ killing and the line between “H.R. should continue, if just for hope of freeing our entrapped gamers” and “H.R. should be stopped before he does even worse” grows thinner and thinner.
that’s nothing. i am more worried about the resulting mess of letting the whole world know that technomancy and magic in general really DO exist! if the world finds out about it, it will topple the power structures of modern civilazation as we know it. on the other hand, it could heraled in the dawn of turning the world in to a Shadowrun type world if you like that kind of thing. personally i think that is a bad thing.
The world turning into Shadowrun would be one of the worst possible outcomes. I’d much rather let H.R. keep killing and killing and killing. Can’t we just have incomprehensible demons and eldritch gods? Or Moon Nazis? Or… or… every person on earth except me being turned into my mother?
ANYTHING but Shadowrun.
Magic exists? And what proof from H.R. do they have? 5 people in funky life-support tubes hooked up to an immersive video game? A dismembered arm? H.R. barely has control over what magic he has, or else he’d both/either a) be a god by now and/or b) gotten his 5 playtesters out of the system where their continued comatose captivity presents massive legal risk for him.
The scenario likely to play out isn’t the discovery that magic exists but that H.R., genius behind Hurricane, is actually a crazy killer who believes in magic while enabled by his assistant. Not “H.R. is a wizard!” but “He’s CRAZY!”
That’s already how Shanna looks at him. And it’s going to be no different from the cops to the courts.
Unless, you know, he starts busting out crazy crackling purple-black lightning.
dude, go back and re-read the archive. H.R.’s magic IS real! he can probably prove it in a court too. also it seems that His’s magic does more than stick people’s minds and souls into an altrnet reality. it gave him a bit a super strength as well. and it’s not just H.R. if other people realize it’s real, THEY will experiment with the mojo as well, and i shudder to think what THEY could produce. i don’t want someone to summon up some elder horror from the great beyond or something. THAT is why i am not likeing where Shanna getting the upper hand here. she’s likely to open up a pandora’s box of really bad stuff.
I never said H.R.’s magic didn’t exist.
What I said is: Who’s gonna believe it?
At this point Carol might be able to claim self defense. Stand your ground Carol…or in this case your park bench.
This is why I hate Starbucks. All the damn high-tech workers and their associated journalists accusing each other of murder and crying. All. the. Damn. Time.
Yeeep. Dont care what Shanna is trying to do but nope, really dont like her. Uppercut her, Carol! Of course… What happens on next page is probably us finding out she was texting HR and he walks up behind Shanna and KOs her for the tubes…
Yeah, this is all going Shanna’s way and that irritates me.
You can already see how this can unravel for her, though. She doesn’t have any frame of reference for what she’s really dealing with – either as a threat or as a story. If Carol levels with her, it goes poorly for Carol but I don’t think that actually means it’ll go well for Shanna.
Which…kind of makes me feel like I’m watching people play Fiasco.
Sepia world is so intense
I can understand Carol crumbling, she’s witness allot as of late but Shanna kinda nuts in her own right. Making the conclusion that “the five” being lock up at Hurricane HQ was a leap, a missing Ferris being a victim of foul play is a even bigger leap, screaming at Carol that shes a murderer…
Shanna is exaggerating, but what she’s saying isn’t untrue. Five gamers disappeared while participating in a game-related equipment test. Why should they disappear just for that, even if said tech is cutting edge? She found evidence of weird equipment that a game company normally wouldn’t have use for. Ferris disappearing is also a huge sign that something is wrong if he was just fired. And as far as H.R. and Carol are keeping all this very sinister stuff secret- even lying about it- it seems that the adage that “dead men tell no tales” applies.
It’s not that big a leap with Ferris – uncollected mail and newspapers are piling up at his house, while the person who claims she fired him has not only gotten access to his Facebook account but is actively monitoring said account to intercept anyone who tries to get in touch with him.
I mean, if you set up a meeting with someone via a personal social networking site, and then their boss shows up at the meeting instead to announce that they’ve been fired and not-so-subtly hint that there’ll be trouble for you if you don’t walk away and forget the whole thing, that’s a pretty big red flag.
And then they kiss… :-p
Its possible. At the start of Fans! Shanna was convinced she was a lesbian, even though she really isn’t. (She’s that good at self deception)
Holy crap; I did not realize it was that Shanna. Now excuse me while my last brain cell dies of loneliness.
I have to ask, does shana have some suicidal tendancies as she’s rather stuck on this idea of carol killing her. I mean, yes, it gets to carol mentioning it, but still says bad things about her mental state
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Unimpressed E-merl, what do you have to say about this?
“…” -__-
…yeah, that’s what I thought you’d say.
“Aaaaaaa… ooh, felt good to get that out. Now, what were you saying? I kind of zoned out for a minute.”
I’ll get all the A’s out of my body!
It’s actually kind of embarrassing how bad Carol is at this sort of thing. There’s no excuse for not doing any planning if you’re the one picking the time and place of battle, and especially if you’re not experienced at improvising.
Considering she’s a high level executive in a gaming company one would think she’d be a pro at bullshitting people.
Executives tend to be horrible at BSing people, especially those of game companies if various twitter feeds are any indication, you’re thinking of Public Relations folks.
Dunno? The only thing that comes to mind is “as you wish” followed by repeated stabbing. If someone just keeps on insisting that you must kill them, who are you to deny them their mindset?
WHAT IS HAPPENING WHAT IS HAPPENING SOMEONE TELL ME WHAT IS HAPPENING!
I want her to kill the journalist next page. I can feel it in my bones. “Look at the face of the person you will kill!”
I mean, that’s just asking for it.
I just realized there was a completely different thread on this already. Crap.
I assume the next page will consist of Frigg, Gravedust, and/or Bandit screaming in like fashion.
… the reason being that Bandit carefully cut Gravy’s beard off and glued it onto Frigg.
If that comment doesn’t get a Gold Star, I will scream like Carol in the last panel. :D
Aren’t you around long enough to know Gold Star rules? Phil won’t give it anymore if it is suggested.
That would be an “and” scenario, I think.
nice XD
agreed
With Carol screaming like this when I cop comes by to see what the problem is should tell them “This woman is harassing, stalking and threatening me.” Then wave goodbye to Shanna as the cops drag her away. Who would believe Shanna’s story of missing gamers and a murder over it, with no proof?
Yeah, after all those looks into her phone I’m getting the feeling that Carol’s scream is mainly to make it look like she’s being assaulted. Possibly to get Shanna arrested, or possibly to have Shanna dragged away by hired thugs without having any bystanders question it too much. Not that we’ve seen any hired thugs, and I don’t know if that’s something a game company would have on retainer. Maybe after getting rid of a dead body Carol figured that she’d better hire some thugs?
Homer Simpson: Who is it?
Voice from Outside: Goons.
Homer: Goons?
Voice: Hired goons.
In all seriousness, though, I don’t think that’s what’s coming next. Carol, thanks to Shanna’s badgering and her own guilt, fear and doubt, has completely fallen apart. All her defences, threats, bravado and cover stories have failed her, and she’s screaming like a trapped, wounded animal. My guess is that she’s about to give in and tell Shanna everything. We’ll see in a few hours, though.
This is reminding me more and more of a Phoenix Wright sequence. I expect “Pursuit – Cornered!” to start up any moment now.
And then the cultists show up!
AAAAAAAA!…lllrighty then!
Okay, so I’m confus.
We’re still in a park, right? With _plenty_ of people around to hear all this yelling?
What the heck happened to the confident and capable Carol? Some Big Nose comes snooping around and she falls apart so easily? o_O