Annotations Every Day - Written by T Campbell & Flo Kahn - Illustrated by John & Jason Waltrip
Guilded Age
The Saga of the Working Class Adventurer – New comics every Monday, Wednesday, and Friday!
Anacrine Complex
Sae Cotton
A superhuman heist involving probably too many pigeons than entirely necessary.
Guilded Age
T Campbell, John Waltrip, Florence Machina
Welcome to the saga of the working-class adventurer! Enjoy the complete story with new annotations daily!
Far to the North
Allison Shaw
Kelu turns to the monsters of her remote mountain home when her family is held hostage by outsiders.
Fairmeadow
Kendra P. / KP
A wayward soldier finds herself in a pacifist commune deep in the wilderness of a war-weary land. Living in isolation brings her closer to those she was sworn to kill than she could ever imagine - but also threatens to tear the place apart.
Lighter Than Heir
Melissa Albino
A young Volant woman joins the military in an effort to upstage her war-hero father.
Real Science Adventures
Brian Clevinger
Spin off stories and other adventures from the world of Atomic Robo!
Monster Pulse
Magnolia Porter Siddell
Four kids run afoul of a creepy secret organization's experiments, which turn their body parts into fighting monsters. Part sentimental coming-of-age story, part monster-training shonen manga, with just a bit of sci-fi body horror.
Knights Errant
J.R. Doyle
Wilfrid's humble quest for revenge becomes bigger and bloodier by the day.
Drugs & Wires
Mary Safro, Io Black
Dan used to be a VR operator until his brain got fried by malware. Now he's stuck delivering packages in a post-Soviet hellhole all while trying to adjust to his new life and find some answers.
Dumbing of Age
David M Willis
Joyce has been homeschooled her entire life until now, when she's suddenly a freshman in college! Things don't go well.
The Lonely Vincent Bellingham
Diana Huh
Vincent is an unkind man looking to disappear, and finds himself in the care of a vampire and her two wicked children.
Star Trip
Gisele Weaver
Jas is a human taken from her home planet on a trip across the galaxy she will never forget.
KISMET
Jaki King
As interplanetary war threatens the Perseid system, a scientist ventures to the far reaches of space in her search for the truth: is humanity the master of its own fate, or is destiny truly inescapable?
Countdown to Countdown
Velinxi
Iris Black is a self-proclaimed inventor with the curious ability to bring his drawings to life, and yearns to find a space where he can use his powers freely.
Spinnerette
Krazy Krow, Rocio Zucchi, Pablo Rey
When a lab accident gives Heather Brown spider powers and six arms, she does what any midwest comic geek would do: Become Ohio's #3 superhero!
Tiger, Tiger
Petra Nordlund
A young noble lady steals her brother's identity and his ship to find love and adventure, and to write a book about the fascinating life cycle of sea sponges!
Sunshine Boy
Moosopp
New-kid Kelly is sweet but naive. Luckily, he's got his outgoing neighbor Grey in his corner.
No End
Erli, Kromi
A queer romance about people attempting to build lives in a cold, post-apocalyptic world ravaged by hordes of undead.
Atomic Robo
Brian Clevinger, Scott Wegener
The robot punches monsters and bad robots and one time he was a cowboy.
Hazy London
Scotty
A story about messy relationships. From friendly foes to crazy families. Nothing is black and white, just full of color. But, all colors can get a little hazy...
Whomp!
Ronnie
A depressed, portly, hirsute anime fan stumbles through life in the ever-pursuit of chicken nuggets and other life-shortening indulgences.
Come Hell or High Water
Jenny/Star, Mori
Prince Gladimir was never meant to fall for a pirate. Swearing off love for duty, the threat of war propels him back into the Captain’s world of high seas and high stakes. Their relationship could be the thing to save the kingdom of Yvoire - or destroy it.
Demon Studies
Miyuli
Four students summon and study potentially dangerous demons within the walls of the mysterious Summerland University.
The Otherknown
Lorian Merriman
Chandra is a 12-year-old accidental time traveler with a reluctant new dad, who happens to be a member of a feared galactic crime syndicate.
Between Failures
Jackie Wohlenhaus
The low stakes adventures of an assorted group of 20 somethings trapped in the declining years of American retail. They are naughty and say lots of swears.
2 Slices
RJ Morel
After a case of mistaken identity, will awkward Daisuke find help from excitable Mamo, or will his love life be thrown completely off track?
Shaderunners
Alex Assan, Lin Darrow
A ragtag band of bootleggers open a speakeasy for bottled colour in the greyscale city of Ironwell.
MASKLESS
kickingshoes
In a world where people can wield the magic of elemental Masks, all Ashe wants to do is help. Maskless and useless, with dreams of fire and smoke on the back of his tongue, he finds himself on a strange, dangerous path to uncovering the secrets of these incredible objects, and the source of the monsters plaguing his home.
Wilde Life
Pascalle Lepas
Oscar decided to rent an old haunted house, and that's when things got weird...
Wychwood
Varethane
When Tiara's pyrokinesis is finally noticed, she is captured by a magical research organization for study. If she cooperates, she could be helping to save humanity from a dire threat - but can she trust them?
Clockwork
Chikuto
Cog Kleinschmidt is a diligent, quiet worker at the Mercia Fortress, the world power's leading stronghold. His orderly life is thrown into chaos when an enemy kingdom sends a diplomat for peace talks. This diplomat needs something from Cog - whether he agrees to their terms or not!
How to be a Werewolf
Shawn Lenore
Malaya Walters was bitten by a werewolf as a child. After being raised by her human family, she faces the chance to learn what being a werewolf is really like as an adult.
Cyanide & Happiness
Explosm
Satire, dark humor and surreal humor.
Killjoys
Flatw00ds
When two disgraced ex-feds fall backwards into trouble with the clown mafia, getting out in one piece is gonna be no joke!
Nerf Now!!
Josué Pereira
A cute webcomic about fanservice, video games, and... love. Mostly video games, though.
Paint the Town Red
Windy, Winter Jay Kiakas
Winona runs a werewolf shelter with partner in crime, Odile in the Gothic city of Merlot. One day they take in an injured vampire, and soon unravels many of the dark secrets of Merlot.
Sam & Fuzzy
Sam Logan
Troubled by gangster rodents, lovesick vampire stalkers, or confused ninja assassins? Don't panic! Sam and Fuzzy are here to help. (For a reasonable fee.)
Patrik the Vampire
Bree Paulsen
Patrik loves to knit, bake, and help his friends while dealing with his own demons... like his thirst for blood because, oh yeah--he's a vampire.
Tove
Severin
The end of the world is coming, and Tove doesn't want to be a hero, but SOMEONE has to look after her little brother.
Obelisk
Ashley McCammon
In 1908 New York, a young woman struggles to put her life back together in the wake of her father's death - until she discovers a vampire in the shambles of her inheritance.
Folklore
Adam Ma, Colin Tan Wei
A superhuman horror story focused on a small band of survivors trying to navigate a war-torn world in the aftermath of the Federation’s collapse.
El Goonish Shive
Dan Shive
WARNING: This comic often ignores the Laws of Physics
Goblins
Ellipsis
A fantasy RPG as told through the eyes of the low-level monsters.
Awaken
Koti Saavedra/Flipfloppery
Superpowers, monsters and conspiracies. Piras, the spoiled Dameschi heir, fights to recover his identity after becoming a terrorist!
Empowered
Adam Warren
A sexy superhero comedy (except when it isn't) about the never-ending struggles of a plucky but very unlucky young superheroine.
Demon's Mirror
Harry Bogosian
Based loosely off of "The Snow Queen", a story by Hans Christian Andersen, we see things take a different turn as the demons become central characters, and the side characters stick around. Yup, that's the only differences. Enjoy!
Solstoria
Angelica Maria
After her brother goes missing, Samantha vows to become a Knight and help those around her in the Kingdom of St. Helena.
Heart of Gold
Eliot Baum, Viv Tanner
A pianist with failing eyesight seeks out a priest with a miraculous healing touch, drawing him deeper into a world of miracles and curses.
[un]Divine
Ayme
A highschool senior thought giving up his soul for a demon was a good idea. It wasn't.
Go Get a Roomie
Clover
Experience the queer journey of an upbeat hippie and the friendships she makes along the way! A tale of self-discovery and love of many forms.
Lunar Blight
Studio CARTRIDGE, Laura Lee
Lunar Blight is a gothic horror story about an elite knight serving a moon cult who must choose between upholding his honoured duty or condemning everything he’s grown to know.
Girl Genius
Phil Foglio, Kaja Foglio
In a time when the Industrial Revolution has become an all-out war, Mad Science rules the World...with mixed success.
The Witch Door
Anni K.
Katariina Lehto discovers her neighbor is a witch called Jousia Muotka. Jousia introduces Katariina to the strange people and places beyond the witch door...
Guilded Age is co-written by T Campbell & Flo Kahn, and illustrated by John Waltrip. Site design by Samantha Kyle. Fonts by Blambot.com.
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…So we were right for once, the Best character was WAV.
I have no idea how to imbed a YouTube video, but there’s no way this doesn’t call for “Back in Black” by ACDC.
just list the url including http://
Frigg always knows Best.
biblically.
It’s the un-twist!
Though he’s unique enough as WAV to keep his tag.
While she really had to TWIST that helmet off, in regards to this revelation, long-time readers already SAW THEM COMING.
HAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA WEEEEEEEEEEE WEEEEEEEEEERE RIIIIIIIIIIIIIIGHT!!!
On the one hand, there’s something to be said about a broken clock being right twice a day. On the other hand, the thing is this one took y’all… the best part of five years!
To be exact, 4 years and 29 days … since Frigg got any. Chap 10, pg 8, 4/13/2011
In the end it was all for the Best.
Oh my god, has it been that long?
Speak for yourself! I never assumed anyone we’d seen was Best until WAV pulled out the keytar.
I was happy enough that he was a helpful character from another world (which is where crazy vortexes send you) of the right basic build. The keytar clinched it though.
Same.
Phil kinda told me at Gencon years ago, ;) I didn’t realize it was almost five years though!
i, on the other hand, felt that every single newly introduced character was best/related to best/the way that best would revive back into the storyline.
but this guy looks nothing like him;D
Ditto. I thought every “Character X is Best” theory prior to WAV was stupid, because DUH, he was sucked into a parallell universe, and DUH, of course that parallell universe is Hurricane’s other franchise, Cyberia, so he’s not just going to pop up as another Arkerran character, even if that other character is also a bard.
WAV wasn’t another one in a long list of possible candidates for AltBest, he was the first and only possible candidate, on account of being from Cyberia. That alone did not make him a likely candidate, but it made him someone worth paying attention to. And the clues started to pile up, to the point that the only way WAV could not be AltBest would be if T and Phil were going for a massive trolling of the entire readership.
likewise
It took me one try and less than a year.
Well, since everyone always guessed every new character was Best reincarnated, we were bound to be right eventully.
So that’s where he’s been.
Looks like Friggs got the Best of him.
I had to make this a separate comment because it ruined the embed.
Technically you gave yourself a goldstar that way.
he deserves it :D
Does that make him Best of the Beatles?
It makes him Paul Best, ex-Beatle
My bad, it was Pete Best. Derp.
…I can’t believe I didn’t realize where Payet Best’s name came from before now.
I suppose it would, but I thought that Dr. Who was really the (legendary/mythological?) Fifth Beatle.
http://www.themarysue.com/doctor-who-the-beatles/
Apparently, it was really Phil…
Think of it this way, you’ve got some really smart readers.
True, calling out every character with half a feature that reminded us of Best as being a Best avatar for the next couple of years was a strategy that had a high probability of calling out the right character as being the next Best. (eventually)
Yeah, assuming they actually brought him back and he didn’t just stay dead…
That wouldn’t fit the story or its foreshadowing very well but I guess the creators can do anything they want.
Up to and including editing my comment to say “I’m a big baby who wears stinky diapers.”
You would be right.
OMG How do you know? You really CAN do anything! *runs away from computer screaming!*
Holy moly!!! She’s been Bested.
She only Friggs the Best there is!
I enjoy the “Anywaaaaaaaaait a goddamn second!” line more than I should.
“GOT-DAMMIT I ALREADY FUCKED THIS ONE AAARRGGHH”
Recycle
Reuse
Reincarnate
MMM reincarnated fucking, crap, too bad my lover is a cockroach…
Yeah, it can be hard to make that relationship work.
It took until the end of the movie, but that particular cockroach got fucked *real* good.
Now the question remains…does he remember being Payet?
I ask because, musical talent notwithstanding, WAV’s personality is pretty much the opposite of both Payet’s and that of the Sepia World guy behind Payet. (See Chapter 9, page 16.)
Most likely he doesn’t but I hope he remembers. Maybe Frigg should give him a ride down memory lane. *giggity*
If he doesn’t, Frigg would still have her memories of him. So, maybe she could reflect on how much fun they had the first time and Payet forward?
i think that would be for the best.
Thus far each ‘Tuber’s avatar seems to be shaped by their own subconscious ideas; Gravedust’s player having been all about the community, Byron’s being into, well, Byronic archetypes, Frigg looking to kick some ass. Best’s player mentioned having different stage personas, so I’d rather guess that each reBest is similarly shaped by one of said stage personas into a functionally separate person.
On the surface, at least.
Need more respawns for best evidence.
Yeah, his internal thought boxes are completely different, both in word and symbolically in appearance. Wav isn’t Best in any real sense, not anymore.
For that, Frigg would have to access his hard drive & see how fast his RAM goes, but she might be able to call up the memory file.
if we have any luck at all he will never remember being best.so we have never ever to suffer under this unbearable character again.
Well, even if he does get his memory back, that does not mean that he will be the same person.
This is because he would also have whatever memories he has as being WAV, which seems to have made him a fairly balanced and reasonable fellow. He would then be able to chose between the lifestyles based on what he has seen the in the results of each.
-sigh- Much like Conner in Angel. I need to stop making Joss Whedon references with every other comment.
…and start making them with every single comment?
I still say this is the Cyberian equivalent of being a bombastic egoist.
So when Payet got transferred to Cybernua by the portal, his character memory got erased or something, so he doesn’t remember being Best? The different personality makes some sense in this case, as it could probably be described as Payet’s “base” personality from before he got all egocentric from being mistaken for a hero in that first village. Very interesting. Very interesting indeed.
Good point. It’s easy to forget Best didn’t start off as a huge douche, but only became one after all the adulation went to his head.
Of course, that process only took around one page (and judging by the stage of impregnation, around four to six months in-game).
I can’t properly quantify why I felt this kind of thing’d happen… Wish I could recall what it was about it that tipped me off.
Probably the fact that he’s a combat bard, the fact that Best disappeared into a strange energy vortex, the fact that WAV appeared out of a strange energy vortex, the fact that WAV was summoned here by Homon who is the alter ego of H.R., the fact that Best’s player was one of the five people who H.R. is obsessed with undoing, the fact that H.R. lost track of Best and has been looking for a way to get control of him again for a long time, and the fact that Best is, ostensibly, one of the five main characters of the comic, who hasn’t been seen in a very long time, and whose absence from the story had been growing more and more conspicuous the more we delved into Sepia World.
But yeah. Not much foreshadowing at all, really.
WAV was summoned here by Homon? Thought the original cult leader (Brother Tom?) tried to open the portal to Cyberia and H.R. allowed/helped him to do it letting that thing through. I was guessing that once the H.R. had officially created a link between the worlds WAV was able to break through it on his lev bike by following the beast’s trail. Did I miss a scene where WAV comes through the portal Homon opened? Could you link it?
You didn’t miss a scene that explicitly showed WAV coming through the portal, but H.R. was definitely the one who created the portal and had control over it. Anything that came through was because H.R. let it through, and if WAV found the portal in Cyberia it’s because H.R. opened it near him.
See Chapter 22 – Page 24.
Actually they set up the portal and H.R. provided some magical keyboarding spell to help make the bridge but there is no indication he has anymore precise “control” over this door he opened then any of his other spells/commands. That’s sort of been his trouble all along. What he plans and what happens ain’t exactly been all that perfectly similar. I think there are other forces in this living world that fight his precise control.
Beyond that he described this like he was opening a door that was going to stay open (those with the means, spells or lev bike computer/power source could now get through). Basically he linked the two worlds and now anybody can take advantage of it. “Damned shall I be to give them my other universe.” was his only comment on it. If he was certain that only what he said should come though would and mostly only planned to let demon “beasts” through to Arkerra then he wouldn’t really think of it as “give”ing them his other world would he?
Beyond that if Best did indeed make an impromptu portal and force his way through to Cyberia back when H.R. couldn’t find him (assuming this isn’t just an Alt with a shared soul or something odd like that) then WAV/Best might have an odd link to both worlds that allowed him to follow with enough power (the bike devices and energy source). So folks might have been able to cross over before H.R. helped finish this other portal without H.R. having a clue. Once the link has been widened maybe its even harder for him to keep track on this world he doesn’t really have control over.
We should know soon as we get back to sepia world at H.R.’s headquarters cause I don’t see him being able to go without commenting on the return of the rogue he totally lost back then. If we don’t see or hear something then to say he knows then I say he’s made another mistake and made things even more fluid. (control continues to slip from his weak grasp)
Well I’ll be! Payet Best as an emo Vulcan in TRON drag!
System Message:
Upgrade available! Best version 2.0 has been released.
This release introduces improved social skills, party support, increased stability and bug fixes.
After upgrade is complete you may need to reboot your brain.
[Upgrade Now] [Remind Me Later]
[Upgrade Now]
Do you want to reboot [Now] or [Later]?
[Later]
Important files can not be updated while the system is using them.
If you choose to reboot later some aspects may not function correctly, interact properly with others or suffer memory loss.
Remind me in:
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Never remind me
The question now is will she kill him or frigg him. Wait a second remembered whio i was talking abou. She’ll likely kill him as she friggs him.
that avatar just seems so…appropriate XD
I stand corrected.
It’s not Payet Best :o
Payet and WAV switched universes when the thing happened, WAV is the Cyberia-version of Payet, IE the most awesome maddafakka in the world, Payet is saving Cyberia currently!
But WAV didn’t appear until well after Payet disappeared.
Am I the only one who’s shocked that he’s flesh and blood? I’d been under the impression that the helmet was part of his body, or an outer shell over a data-based form.
Technically they’re all data based forms.
TECHNICALLY, we’re all data-based life forms.
The schematics are encoded in our DNA…
;)
We’ve seen the chin under his helmet before. During the fight with the Corruptor Beast.
tooottally didnt realise that was a helmet at all.
welp
disappointed he has meat face, but not surprised :(
So is WAV’s head going to de-pressurize and kaboom? Gosh, wouldn’t that be anti-climactic!
premature e…xplosion?
Twist: Still not Best, Wav just has some sort of empathic shapeshiftery going on.
Subconscious shapeshifting into something the other person hates, to counter amorous advances? Well, this might backfire on WAV when Frigg decides she’s drunk enough to not hate Best…
He’s not Best.
He’s only Second Best.
Oh God, I hope you’re not implying that somewhen down the line that there’s going to be a third Best & fourth Best…
O.o
Oh Shit! It’s an Elf!
Ah elf! It’s a shit!(-elf)
Darn, I was actually hoping it wasn’t Best, because I liked WAV so much more.
He’s keeping his unique tag so I think he will be keeping his unique WAV personality for the time being and maybe even if he gets his memory back someday he will “learn” from the experience and become a merged being.
I think I’m okay with that; I’d like it if he didn’t let anything go to his head this time so he doesn’t become a total douchebag again.
Well, considering Best apparently was, in-world, a character someone in Sepia World invented…if that Sepia World person is a good roleplayer, who deliberately made one character an egomaniac, there’s no reason to expect other characters played by the same player to be terribly similar.
Yeah “asshole bard” is a reasonable expression of the Troupe. Maybe the base guy behind isn’t a huge douche so much as “This character I made? Payet? The way I’m gonna play him he’s just a HUGE DOUCHE!” I figure all his characters tie in a to a music theme, but otherwise he’s a good enough RPer to do more then “Huge Douche” every time. Best could be less the reflection of his soul and more just sticking with what’s on the character sheet.
Whatever he saw in that last vision of the future was so at odds with his perception of who he was it broke him. Some time out of his head was exactly what the doctor ordered and when/if they recombine its WAV’s personality, memories, and (I’m guessing at the future here) stronger relationships he will be clinging to desperately to repair the damage done by that vision. Basically the old Best needed perspective and a sense of something to fight for that is not entirely wrapped up in himself. He’s pretty darned lucky this happened this way really.
You know, thanks to the loveliness of prophecy’s and their trickery, Best might literally be able to move past that vision now if reintegration occurs. After all, everybody knows he’s dead. They probably already buried him. All he needs to do is see his grave and everything after that is a future he can craft for himself, beyond that of the Basin’s foresight. Though I suspect “Best” is dead no matter what. And the man who’s definitely not him might just think that’s for the best.
Of course if this is his alt and the original manages to get back to Arkerra to find that everybody thinks his alt is him and they like him better than the Best they had… Might hurt more than the lonely grave thing by itself really.
[youtube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h_L4Rixya64&w=420&h=315%5D
well that didn’t work >.< Foo Fighters, The Best of you
Well now.
I’m sorry, what?
Huh. Looks like this comment board doesn’t support flash…
Lol. Like for realzies.
I dunno. “The flash”‘s response really works for me.
He’s just so fast that we can’t read it in our time?
So, wait. This means he CAN actually eat, right?
Unless his body is still somehow electrical or whatever..?
Reminds me of when that kidroid from A.I. tried to eat cause he was jealous of the real boy that was replacing him in the family but he had no stomach so it just got all in his circuit boards and messed him up good.
So any Ole android can eat the real question is can they crap?
All the signs were there. I am glad Phil & Co. didn’t pull an “Ooops, Monarch is not actually Captain Atom even though every damn clue in the story said he was” thing. That reference is for your older readers, natch!
*Insert Captain America ‘I get that reference’ meme here*
He’s Dead Jim
i dunno you guys… the nose is pretty similar, but i think WAV looks more like oscar wilde or perhaps trent reznor circa 1994
Given that there is a face under the helmet, I wonder if he can now eat, or if his method of recharging himself is going to continue to go down the road that it appeared to be following previously…
Hang on a minute, that’s can’t be Best. Best wasn’t green.
I was wrong about the reveal not occurring in this chapter. Just in case anyone was keeping track of my predictions (you know you were).
I am totally surprised that there is a head with hair in there. I was expecting more cyborg or android (I honestly don’t know the difference, but please, don’t tell me what it is).
The Tron folk he’s taken off of have faces though hair and other anatomical features probably happened when he “translated” into the world on insertion.
That or Cyberia’s heroes are people dressed in techno suits that glow green
He may have always had a complete human anatomy inside and out though his past feeding off the Circuit or whatever would make that an odd trait in that world.
true. maybe his synapses were slow
Well, I guess if they die again they will just reincarnate as new characters…
If he is in fact the Real Best, question becomes… Does he have any memory of being Best? And apparently, he’s a nicer person than Best ever was.. would that still hold if he were to regain any lost memories?
I haven’t read every comment ever made on this site, but I’m still pretty sure that in retrospect, this comment is the best comment ever made on this site. ^_^
(Read the whole thread for context.)
Yes, that is a good thread. I’m in it twice. Very good.
Also, Phil was kind of funny.
I don’t really get why everyone’s thinking it’s Best, here in the comments. Aside from the skin and hair being nothing whatsoever like Best’s, the face isn’t particularly close either. The elf ears and his sex are about the only similarity.
you forgot to add #imbeingsarcastic to the end of your comment…
What do you mean? No sarcasm was intended.
According to Ctrl+F nobody has mentioned Skrillex yet. I’m kind of impressed.
Way ahead of you. ^_^
Actually, I think what surprises me the most is that this chapter is in the Extra Bits category and was a one that only happened thanks to kickstarter. Does that mean if the kickstarter hadn’t made it, we never would have gotten this big reveal? Was it never meant to happen in the chapters that aren’t considered “Extra bits”?
Yeah but it wouldn’t have been wrapped up in a mini arc where Frigg friggs his brains out? Maybe there is some animation coming up? ( *crosses fingers* )
More like we’re giving this extra time that we otherwise would not have.
It is true: after Best’s permadeath his player chose a prestige class character (expansion pack ‘ Revenge of the Daft Pixel Punks ™’.
Hmm… prophesied hero who didn’t quite meet expectations, died but didn’t leave a body, came back, recognized by his moves, something about seven eyes… Jesus?