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I know that they know that i know that…
Division among the ranks?
This is why the bad guys never win. They don’t have THE POWER OF FRIENDSHIP.
Actually it’s HEART they’re missing, and it’s why they can’t summon Captain Planet.
Why doesn’t Harki just cut one out of someone, then?
… What do you mean, I’m missing the point?
You and harki both are missing the point ear. He’s already bloodied the waters here. It’ll be difficult wash himself of this mess if things don’t go well for him.
You’ve clearly gotten right to the heart of matters.
aw cmon guys their not so bad, they are spreading light and warmth throughout the land. HOw is that not good?
As opposed to division in the Bandit?
Only a momentary split, the girl did manage to pull her self togeather and patch things up.
Lets see if Harky can keep doing the same.
Panel Four: Alternative Dialogue
Random Dude on Fire: OHNOES! I’m on fire!
Harki: Here, use this blood-soaked rag to put out the flames!
I’m thinking more of a “Woo! Spring break!” sort of feel for the burning man.
“Me mind on fire, me soul on fire…WTF?!?! Me BODY on fire!!! Noooooo! Damn you, Buster Poindexter!!!”
Harki’s laying down the HoTs.
Can’t help but feel quite a bit of respect for Harky, a troll of all people.
Seconded! We’ve seen his impressive combat prowess, we’ve seen him completely lose his shit, but now we actually start to get an idea of how cunning he actually is. It’s more clear now how he became the leader of the World’s Rebellion.
He is an enemy you can definitely relate to. I’d definitely roll Horde on his server. While his methods are terrible, his motives the same as a lot of heroes in history.
The end still doens’t justify the means
And speaking of Horde (your refering to wow I take it?) the current Horde has proven (despite some acts of honour) to be little different from the old one, despite many preachings from that side. Even in vanilia the Horde had tons of evil quests (or as it’s members like to call it: “Grey area” :/), and in cataclysm it has become even worse.
What gets me most is that there are a lot of fans who still talk about the Horde being “the underdog”, “misunderstood”, or even the “honourable noble savages”.
However, while both the Allies and the Axis both had the same motives of winning, their methods were definately different.
Sometimes you have to fire with fire, even Picard know that.
True, but if Gastonia are the Borg, then fire probably still won’t help.
Considering that Italy, Germany, and Japan are all still sovereign states rather than having been absorbed as territory by any of the Allied nations, I’d have to say that the Axis and Allies did not really both have the same motives for victory.
Note: Well, except for the USSR, they were pretty much only on the Allies because the Germans happened to be on the Axis.
No, they had the same motives for victory, they just didn’t have the same motives for entrance to the war. Both sides wanted to defeat their rivals in order to survive, and hopefully also gain power. Many historians have also argued that territorial gain was an hoped-for objective of France (before they got plastered) and America. Britain simply wanted to retain foreign possesions. This was supported by such post-war acts as the creation of Nato and the Marshall plan, where, even though America could not gain actual land, they did gain considerable influence in previously neutral and hostile areas. Likewise, France’s return to French Indo-China after the war strongly suggests that they never gave up their ambitions to empire; they were merely delayed.
The reason why Britain was initially reluctant to enter the war (hence, different motive for entrance) was that they did not believe they cuold win. As Stanley Baldwin famously declared ‘the bomber must get through’. The German Airforce was considered superior to the British, and it was estimated that each day would see reports of 20,000 civilian casualties from bombing raids. The British knew they could not continue the war in those circumstances, and so felt that defeat was, if not inevitable, at least very likely. This was the reason for the policy of Appeasement. Appeasement failed because, as we know, Hitler wanted war (AJP Taylor disagrees, but his books have been trashed by generations of historians).
France wanted to attack Germany from the moment Germany started talking about Anschluss (and some historians suggest from the re-occupation of the Rhineland). However, France knew that war would not be feasible without British support. Since Britain didn’t have any problems with the Anschluss, France was forced to go along with it. France was especially keen to fight over Czechoslovakia, since it the lynchpin of France’s eastern containment strategy for Germany (essentally the same plan as for World War One, but replacing Russia with all the tiny little states formed by the Versailles treaty). Britain still said no. Thus, the different entrance motivation for France was that Britain wouldn’t let them. If Britain had been supportive of war, France was quite willing to invade and attempt to sever the entire Rhineland from Germany, and probably also East Prussia.
The United States wanted to stay out so that they could sell weapons to both sides (again), but Japan said no.
Interestingly, the only group that truly wanted no part of the conflict was the USSR. However, Stalin was realistic enough to know that Hitler would inevitably invade, and it was simply a matter of gaining time to prepare (hence the non-aggression pact).
So, in truth, all sides wanted the same things from war: Profit, Territory, Power, Survival. It was simply a choice of when to enter, and in what circumstances, that they differed.
None of this changes the fact that Germany, Italy, and Japan conducted the war in truly horrific ways, and, being a westerner I am therefore quite glad that the Allies won. However, the motivations were not different.
No offense, but are you some kind of fellow traveller? It’s incredibly naive of you to ignore the degree to which the Soviets played the French Front Populaire, the annexation of the Baltic states which was engineered by the Soviets in the 1930s culminating in the Molotov-Ribbentrop pact, and let’s not forget, the completely unprovoked attack on Finland in 1939. If all of that’s not empire-building, I don’t know what is.
*Ahem.* I believe it’s called a Tsardom.
Given that he said, “So, in truth, all sides wanted the same things from war: Profit, Territory, Power, Survival”, and explicitly included the USSR in the analysis, I don’t think he’s giving the USSR a pass. The point was that the USSR didn’t want to enter the war, because they knew it would go badly for them.
There’s a lot more to say about the motives of any of the participants. suffice to say for this discussion, that none of the big players were innocent.
Precisely. I don’t deny that the Soviets were empire-building. It’s really quite clear that they wanted an empire. However, they didn’t want to be in the war because they figured it’d hurt the empire.
Fair enough. But I believe, based on the Soviets’ political maneuverings and army deployments, that the plan wasn’t so much to not participate in the war as to try to get the Germans and Western Allies to do as much damage to each other as possible first so the Soviets could swoop in and conquer the whole lot. For some reason the Bolsheviks had always believed that Germany was THE place to have a communist revolution–almost the first thing Lenin did after winning the Russian Civil War was to try to start one in Germany.
The reason for wanting a revolution in Germnay was because it was nearby, and too big to easily conquer. The Balkans they could take by themselves (as long as no-one else got involved), and the same was true for Poland and the Ukraine. Germany, especially once it was unified (thankyou, Bismarck!) was too strong for them to want to attack head-on, and such an attack would inevitably have triggered outside intervention. However, if they could trigger a revolution, then the Soviet Union would be able to stretch from the Pacific to the borders of France, and would have access to the North Sea (and thus the North Atlantic), the Pacific Ocean, and the Mediterranean. They would also be militarily and economically so strong that they could basically just laugh at the rest of the world. Remember, Germany fought three imperial powers (England, France, Italy) to a standstill all by itself in World War One, while Austria-Hungary dealt with Russia. Only when America got involved did things get a bit more ugly. Germany, Austria, and Russia would be nigh-on unstoppable.
Yeah, those are probably the nostalgic Pre-WoW fans..since nothing the Horde has done since that game makes sense with their character in previous games. Hell, Thrall ain’t even in the Horde anymore, is he?
As for “this” Horde? I can’t really say either side is good or even neutral. We have yet to have any real information on them that doesn’t come from a Gastonian. All the elves seem relatively bastardy for different reasons but none in a flat-out dangerous way. What it comes down to is Harki fought the main characters..so he’s the opposite of a protagonist. A Contagonist, if you will.
It’s because the writers for WoW are different from the previous ones. And are also literary jackasses.
Not to be confused with Grand Apothecary Putress, who is a Contagionist.
I think Harki’s a bit too restrained. He should embrace the sweet, cold grip of omni-genocidal nihilism and destroy EVERYTHING. But NOOOO, he has to have “heroic motives”.
I’m going to be so happy when Nega-Best arises from the void and uses his newly-gained dark powers to sunder all existence. So happy. Hopefully he even does so while cracking one-liners and laughing madly. Those are the BEST villains.
And the road to Hell is paved with good intentions.
He commands respect from his subordinate. That is enough for me. Disdain for those who profit too much from blood shed by others can only help.
Yes, and where again does the evil chancellor usually sit in the hierarchy of betrayal?
Figurative trolls trolling a literal troll who is in turn trolling everybody, because he’s a troll.
It seems We’re fast encroaching upon a sort of troll singularity, wherein everyone everywhere is being constantly trolled, all the time, forever.
Are you… new to this interwebs thing?
OH SWEET CHRIST IT’S HAPPENING!
Fool! Feel the pull of the savage tides of endless trolling as you are swallowed by the entropic event horizon beyond which only troll-matter may exist.
When everyone is trolls, no one will be.
Don’t worry, it’ll regenerate.
I love this guy.
You take the blue pill, the story ends, you wake up in your bed and believe whatever you want to believe. You take the red pill, you stay online, and I show you how deep the rabbit hole goes.
The trolling is strong in this one…
This is not the first time a troll has trolled. Homestuck has done it, the classic “Troll under the bridge” did it all the time, and it’s probably been done to death in mythology… Hell, we’re not even getting into the film “Troll 2″, which is hardly even connected to the first film, thus having forced fans of the first to sit through a bad film that had nothing to do with the original.
Yeah. Trollception seems to happen a lot these days.
Don’t insult it like that. By which I mean insult Troll 1. It was literally not connected at all. It was a movie called “Goblin” that was re-titled for America so that people might buy it thinking it was a real sequel. That’s it. It wasn’t even published by the same distribution company.
does the bottom layer simply contain magnets?
Yes. Magnets and rainbows. DOUBLE RAINBOWS, even.
Little do they know that the bird servant is using them all! Look at him inciting them against each other…
Yes, that bird butler is totally going to do it. Maybe his name is “Ian”?
$10 he goes further by crapping on the Goblin-tank, it’s what birds do.
It’s pretty clear that it’s the wall lamp pulling the strings here…
I don’t like these ugys.But they the bad guys so. ~nods~
Somehow..I just imagine Best would fit in somewhere in there as well
We’ve seen Bandit and Best at the same time. We have NOT seen Harki and Best at the same time.
I really don’t think the whole “alt-char” plotline is ever going to show up.
I reiterate: We have not seen Harki and Adam Sessler at the same time.
Coincidence? NO! Those two have not coincided!
Also, Archmage Caneghem’s haughty demeanor clearly reveals him to be none other than Aslan.
Best use of that overplayed meme ever.
Best to keep these two apart
You know, when we first met him I didn’t like Harki. Now though, I’m beginning to dog him.
Having been awake for 24 hours that post (before reading your correction) conjured up some very disturbing and NSFW images.
The way my mind works worries me some times.
(and yes, I know 24 isn’t that much, apparently my sanity starts degrading early)
After 36-40 hours of english-speaking series, when I go out, I hear people talking ’round in english syllables in place of hungarian. That is the scariest of all things…
Yes. It seems like he’s actually good at heart, very unlike the Gastonian idea of how the “savage races” behave and think.
Oh, what, I’m an exposed midriff and a shocked child? Well, at least the strange facial expression makes everything I say appear to come from a tranced state…
“BEST IS NOT TRULY DEAD!”
Still doens’t excuse them killing all those people.
And I’m quite certain that the “Worlds rebellion” aren’t that much better tbh
Once you start trying to excuse mass murder you’re kind of playing a losing game. Funny. People seem to keep forgetting that this is a war. People die and shit.
So are Harky’s two fingers still gone?
Guess troll healing doesn’t extend to limb regeneration.
Which, as someone smartly pointed out in the last thread, calls serious doubt on Bandit’s “Trollblood healed me from death” excuse.
Her limbs were always vaguely attached – it wasn’t a complete trifurcation – so the troll blood could still work. You just have to treat them as really ridiculously large cuts, which is why Harki’s torso no longer resembles a broken sieve.
Though the path of war yields no roses until many seasons after the deaths of your enemies nourish the path, the dog of battle sometimes leaves a turd of loss on the path of war that you step into with your boots of purpose.
The colors! Oh my! OH OH OH
I just leveled up.
I can only imagine the Hawk-man with the voice of Sean Connery.
Really? Not Brian Blessed?
“Harki’s alive?!” “Diiiiiiiiiive!!!” *continues rocking out to Queen*
Brian Blessed’s voice is far too boisterous for the hawkman’s quiet commentary in this scene. Then again, I can’t claim to have seen all of Brian’s roles.
Anywho, you get bonus points for mentioning his name. :)
He pretty much yells in all his roles.
Just about the quietest thing I’ve seen him in is I Claudius, where he plays Augustus (formerly Octavius). He still spends half the time shouting.
It’s fun to say: Brian Blessed. I hear if you say it three times, he appears behind you and shouts loudly.
Also, I was going to say how I hear Hawk-Guy completely differently, but, damn it, now I read his lines in a Sean Connery voice. Thanks a lot, Garygolf.
~♫~Say it loud and there’s music playing. Say is soft and it’s almost like praying. Brian Blessed. I’ll never stop saying Brian Blessed~♫~
Nice carpet, Dwarf man.
y’know, I’m starting to like harki, he makes me laugh
Harki is interesting….
So long as we’re all clear on the concept, who is using whom doesn’t matter. Right?
Nope, just using who and whom properly. Thank your English teacher. :)
“No question now, what had happened to the faces of the Savasi and the Goblins. The World’s Rebellion outside looked from them to Gastonians, and from Gastonians to them, and from them to Gastonians again; but already it was impossible to say which was which.”
I liked that book :3
All humanoids are equal, but some are more equal than others.
Some people want to use you…
~♫~Some of them want to get used by you.~♬ ~
We’ve seen Bandit and Best at the same time. We have NOT seen Annie Lennox and Best together at the same time. With similar hair styles, I’m beginning to wonder…
Of course Picard and I are on the same page. Makes perfect sense.
~♫~ Some of them want to abuse you… ~♫~
Harki got some anti-hobbling greaves. I dunno why, having his achilles tendons severed seemed like a pretty minor injury, last time.
It seems that he is learning fast. Everytime he nearly dies, he allows another AC raise.
His tendons were cut, so he fell. I think, that it reaffirmed him in his belief, that he is not meant to kneel before others.
I absolutely adore the snooty goblin butler. And I can’t believe they have a snooty goblin butler already! :D
How come no one’s noticed his name is Don Gobligno. That’s.. just /terrible/.
He has to be a PC.
Hey, it’s the goblin mafia.
Oh there should totally be a GA based movie called the “The Gobfather”.
An their crossbows are called “Gobstoppers”. The Don has one that is enchanted to never run out of ammo. He calls it his “Everlasting Gobstopper”.
Wait, I’m crossing over different films, aren’t I?
Yeah, your reference went a bit Wonky at the end there.
Though it is nice to see you being Willy-ing to hear corrections.
You realize they’ll have trouble once they get to Checkpoint Charlie, right?
So their success might run into a bit of a glass ceiling?
Protip: Do not discuss your plans to turn against your despised allies of convenience, while still in the room with your despised allies of convenience.
They’re using /w, so it’s no problem.
WELP, one of the baddies just made a comment about how well everything is going, guess we don’t have to worry anymore!
Hope the population said tanks for their patronage…
Oh, just shoot me now.
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