Yeah, really. I am going out on a limb to suggest that mother is bedridden, or some such–will they plug her into the game and give her a second life? Will this motherly transformation win Shanna over to the side of HR (evil)? Stay tuned…
To be honest, I think the breakdown and institutionalization of Judith Cochran is as close as either Shanna gets to having an “origin story.” The term doesn’t entirely fit her, because she’s a lot more changeable as an adult than, say, Superman or Batman. Everything really important about them, you get in a few key scenes. Shanna in Fans is a very different creature in the start of Book I than she is by the start of Book II, who is almost as different again at the start of Book VI. Even Guilded Age Shanna, who obviously doesn’t get as much screen time, is already going through some pretty radical upheavals.
Still, Judith’s the keystone. Take away what happened to her, and just about everything about Shanna changes. I doubt she’d be in journalism, for one thing.
Shanna’s shown up as a regular in two, Fans and GA, and other versions of her have had cameos in David Willis’ It’s Walky and Shaenon Garrity’s Narbonic. Those are the ones I know of offhand. There’s a lot of this sort of “alternate character stuff” going on in my work, and I wouldn’t be at all surprised if another Carol shows up someday.
Heh… I remember the Alt-Universe Penny & Aggie that sorta got absorbed into the Fansverse. Not sure why that stands out as particularly memorable… but it does.
Wow I have just barely finished Quiltbag which i highly recommend to the all the Guilded fans here. Thank you T Campbell. Tom Robins got nuthin on you. You genius You. (I guess it is hard to compare a writteen novel with a graphic one) Any way Kudos on your mad plot weaving skills. !I was having difficulty geting into Faans but i’ll give it another look.
If she’s not the same shanna…but look to her actions. this is someone who could be the SAME Shanna as the one in FANS!, she’s certainly showing the personal capability, and the reference back to a certain convention in the past…
I’m slowly warming up to Shanna, but these last few pages have been scaring me. Of course, she’s running for her life so I guess there probably aren’t going to be too many warm and genuine smiles in the near future.
I’m thinking he’s more like Raymond Reddington. Sure, he can take someone out, but he’s got the intelligence and resources to find much more interesting solutions to problems.
Wait, was that ‘quack’ suggesting they take Mama Nose off life-support? Shoot him Nose, shoot him until he is nothing but a pretty corpse! And then shoot him again!
To more fully state it, the doctor is suggesting that, if Shanna is moving, that she should take her mother with her, and maybe care for her on an in-house basis. Were Shanna simply moving, she probably would take her mom to a new care facility, if what we’ve seen of Shanna in general means anything.
Shanna’s pissed because the doctor is implying that Shanna is intentionally abandoning her mom, when the lady hasn’t got a choice in the matter – running is hard enough, running with a older, not entirely healthy, and entirely delusional, woman, is significantly harder.
I’m pretty sure you want an “or,” not an “and,” in that – Shanna probably isn’t the kind of person to suicide if there is another option…and killing all the bastards in self-defense is definitely another option! :)
…sorry about daddy. Not your fault he pulled an Angel Heart years ago and is now trying to break through to the other side. Don’t worry he will make sure you find him in his basement when needs you for the right kind of sacrifice, in the meantime go ahead and run. Yeah now you know why mommy is batshit insane, and you have been stuck taking care of her.
This looks like a Mental Institution. I’m going to make a long shot guess that instead of killing her, they are going to make it look like she’s crazy like her mom.
Heavy.
it sure is a weighty issues to address.
Yeah, really. I am going out on a limb to suggest that mother is bedridden, or some such–will they plug her into the game and give her a second life? Will this motherly transformation win Shanna over to the side of HR (evil)? Stay tuned…
Not gonna happen. It shouldn’t be relevant to the plot here… but it is a part of Shanna’s backstory that seems to be consistent between universes.
Aha. Another thing the GAverse Shanna has in common with her Fans!verse counterpart: an institutionalized mother.
To be honest, I think the breakdown and institutionalization of Judith Cochran is as close as either Shanna gets to having an “origin story.” The term doesn’t entirely fit her, because she’s a lot more changeable as an adult than, say, Superman or Batman. Everything really important about them, you get in a few key scenes. Shanna in Fans is a very different creature in the start of Book I than she is by the start of Book II, who is almost as different again at the start of Book VI. Even Guilded Age Shanna, who obviously doesn’t get as much screen time, is already going through some pretty radical upheavals.
Still, Judith’s the keystone. Take away what happened to her, and just about everything about Shanna changes. I doubt she’d be in journalism, for one thing.
Meanwhile, in the P&Averse, we got a glimpse of Judith (albeit living on the street, not in an institution), but not Shanna. Interesting.
Interesting, I’m finally going to check out Fans! now.
Hope ya got a couple years.
I mean, I did it, but I had to take a class and a second mortgage.
Just how many webcomic continuities is Shanna Cochran a part of?
Or is it a simple matter of she goes where you go?
Shanna’s shown up as a regular in two, Fans and GA, and other versions of her have had cameos in David Willis’ It’s Walky and Shaenon Garrity’s Narbonic. Those are the ones I know of offhand. There’s a lot of this sort of “alternate character stuff” going on in my work, and I wouldn’t be at all surprised if another Carol shows up someday.
Heh… I remember the Alt-Universe Penny & Aggie that sorta got absorbed into the Fansverse. Not sure why that stands out as particularly memorable… but it does.
Forgive me for being an ignorant stupidface… but what is Fans!?
No trouble. Fans is my first comic, still located at http://faans.com. For the evolution of Shanna, you’re probably going to want to start at the start: http://www.faans.com/books1-6/index.php?p=1.
Or if you really just want a look at Judith’s first appearance, it’s at http://www.faans.com/books1-6/index.php?p=248 and http://www.faans.com/books1-6/index.php?p=249. Obviously this is a different world with different details, and Fans has a different tone overall than Guilded Age‘s Sepia scenes. But it might be a fun comparison, in any case.
Like most writers, I have a tough time looking at old work without dissecting it, but I’ll restrain myself this once.
Wow I have just barely finished Quiltbag which i highly recommend to the all the Guilded fans here. Thank you T Campbell. Tom Robins got nuthin on you. You genius You. (I guess it is hard to compare a writteen novel with a graphic one) Any way Kudos on your mad plot weaving skills. !I was having difficulty geting into Faans but i’ll give it another look.
…how did I not realize that connection? /facepalm
I feel really stupid that I didn’t realize you were the same author……
Hey, don’t feel TOO bad. I was worried that nobody was “getting” Shanna who didn’t know Fans.
If she’s not the same shanna…but look to her actions. this is someone who could be the SAME Shanna as the one in FANS!, she’s certainly showing the personal capability, and the reference back to a certain convention in the past…
Now we know where Shanna got her creepy grimacing skills.
I’m slowly warming up to Shanna, but these last few pages have been scaring me. Of course, she’s running for her life so I guess there probably aren’t going to be too many warm and genuine smiles in the near future.
Oh, nuts. I was hoping to find out just who JJ Berten was and what the heck Shanna was talking to him about.
Carol, not Shanna
Yes, whoops. I was thinking Carol, but…
20 internet cookies says hitman.
No, if they’d ever had anyone killed before, that would destroy the significance of the Ferris situation.
Not necessarily, would it? Perhaps they had let JJ Berten “solve problems” however he saw fit.
I’m thinking he’s more like Raymond Reddington. Sure, he can take someone out, but he’s got the intelligence and resources to find much more interesting solutions to problems.
“Really? because I feel like I’d be happier if you’d shut up.”
…. Why do I suddenly get the feeling she didn’t get the gun to protect herself?
She got it to “get out of the situation” that doesn’t necessarily mean killing her pursuers…
The plot thicks…
Yes, yes, I know it’s “thickens”. Blame Ben Edlund for this one.
Wait, was that ‘quack’ suggesting they take Mama Nose off life-support? Shoot him Nose, shoot him until he is nothing but a pretty corpse! And then shoot him again!
No, he was suggesting that Shanna should spend more time with her mother, who is mentally ill, but not on life support.
To more fully state it, the doctor is suggesting that, if Shanna is moving, that she should take her mother with her, and maybe care for her on an in-house basis. Were Shanna simply moving, she probably would take her mom to a new care facility, if what we’ve seen of Shanna in general means anything.
Shanna’s pissed because the doctor is implying that Shanna is intentionally abandoning her mom, when the lady hasn’t got a choice in the matter – running is hard enough, running with a older, not entirely healthy, and entirely delusional, woman, is significantly harder.
Umm, is that the restaurant Carol and Berton are eating at?
Wouldn’t it be fun if they all exit at the same time?
I see nothing on this page except the mental hospital.
That bit on the right hand side looked like the entrance to restaurant, specially seeing how it’s on an angle to the Hospital
The awning appears to say, “Irvine Mental Health Treatment & Convalescence Center”, or something similar.
Shanna is now my favorite character. Even Frigg isn’t quite as tough.
Yeeeah, don’t think “starting” a new life is what she’s up to.
More like ending. Hers and some others.
I’m pretty sure you want an “or,” not an “and,” in that – Shanna probably isn’t the kind of person to suicide if there is another option…and killing all the bastards in self-defense is definitely another option! :)
I feel like her nose gets bigger with each new comic.
…sorry about daddy. Not your fault he pulled an Angel Heart years ago and is now trying to break through to the other side. Don’t worry he will make sure you find him in his basement when needs you for the right kind of sacrifice, in the meantime go ahead and run. Yeah now you know why mommy is batshit insane, and you have been stuck taking care of her.
This looks like a Mental Institution. I’m going to make a long shot guess that instead of killing her, they are going to make it look like she’s crazy like her mom.
As wild as this seems… what ‘Dad’ could exist so far? Gravy.
Umm, what does ‘NBD’ stand for/mean?
I’m kinda curious myself
No Big Deal.