Harky: “Now Penk, before you start screaming as I castrate you yet again (being a troll, they grow back so I can do this perpetually), tell me: you let your girlfriend that finally convinced you to betray me?!
Sometimes it’s goog to simply live with our mistakes. We can learn from them, and grow. Life isn’t about taking things back but instead about accepting everything that comes good and bad. In the end we’re defined not by the moments we’ve executed perfectly but the moments in which we’ve failed, and how we responded in those times. Though you erred in your original post, curse not your past self but bless the future self that had presence enough to see through your mistake. Truly it’s the human miracle that allows us to live and learn, to grow and gain strength. Indeed, what you have made here today is more than any mere typo, but perhaps even the beginning of the rest of your life.
We must now create peace. Not just another period before the next war.
See, from the trolls’ perspective, and the perspective of all the savage races and even some non-humans allied to humans, killing off all the humans will remove a major source of war. Syrinj’s argument did not come out so well here, given her audience.
Could be where Madam Arfa’s words tip the balance: “We thought annihilating (Karmacat’s) people was a great victory, but it brought us misery, nothing but misery…”
Well, the leaders of the humans are using the same argument: if only the other races would only do what we want (like die, surrender, starve, obey every order, …) we wouldn’t have to have any war with them.
Using the same argument as the other side, justifies the other side.
Yet, when the humans say that about every other race, but almost every other race says that about humans and NOT necessarily the others, that tends to show the humans really are the problem.
Remember how the Gnolls genocides all the other “fuzzy people”? I don’t think humans are the biggest evils in this world. They weren’t the ones genociding other races out of existence.
Well it’s not for lack of trying. They are just using other methods. Propaganda to make their allies think that their enemies are subhuman scum, claiming that enslaving other races as cheap labor teaches them how to be industrious, etc.
Yes, I’ve always thought that Gastonia’s leadership and the World’s Rebellion’s leadership are functionally exactly the same–except that Gastonia uses euphemisms. “The dwarf race has doomed itself to extinction,” rather than “genocide.” “Mobilization of the gnomish workforce,” and earlier “secure the orcs…Gastonian interests” rather than “slavery.” If Taro (and his late father) aren’t the most evil characters in the comic, they’re at best tied for first place. (Actually, tied is probably right–but with Ivar, not Harky.)
As Tsapki noted. I doubt the humans expected the Svasi to live, if they gave it any thought. Kicking out of all known territory in wholly inhospitable lands may be short of genocide, but if so, just so.
Interesting set-up for the endgame, though I find the assumption that humans are inherently speciest bastards set on subjugation a/o domination a/o extermination of the other sentients laughable and forced.
From what we have been shown of the other sentient races, they all share the same basic need for lebensraum as humans – but are resigned to bitterness in face of the humans succesful alliance/co-optation of the gnomes and some of the elves, not to mention the humans succesful fight against several other species at the same time.
Real-world parallells aside, it will be very interesting to see if the protagonists win based on their own demonstrated skill, will and ability, or if they win becuase they are the protagonists, as is so often the case in modern day fiction, no matter the medium or format.
Whatever it will be, it will certainly prove an enjoyable read no matter what.
“I find the assumption that humans are inherently speciest bastards set on subjugation a/o domination a/o extermination of the other sentients laughable and forced.”
This is a bit ambiguous, and I was hoping you could clarify. Are you saying the story in general is making that assumption? Because if that’s what you mean, I don’t agree. We’ve seen plenty of division among the humans, and I’m not only talking about the adventurers. Just for one example, the Fightopia arc showed that plenty of humans aren’t on board with Gastonia’s simplified us-v-them propaganda, even if only because of the unfair treatment Gastonia has been heaping on them.
On the other hand, if you mean the assumption being made by some of the characters, like Harky and some of the Wood Elf elders, I’m not sure how that seems forced. It’s a huge flaw in their thinking and character, but it’s still very understandable considering the bad blood between them and Gastonia.
Murder makes the world go ’round.
I think their job will be made easier now that Taro is king.
Point taken.
I don’t think anybody minds if he gets exploded.
Harky: “Now Penk, before you start screaming as I castrate you yet again (being a troll, they grow back so I can do this perpetually), tell me: you let your girlfriend that finally convinced you to betray me?!
…your girlfriend convince you to …
Sigh. Sunk by lack of an edit button.
Sometimes it’s goog to simply live with our mistakes. We can learn from them, and grow. Life isn’t about taking things back but instead about accepting everything that comes good and bad. In the end we’re defined not by the moments we’ve executed perfectly but the moments in which we’ve failed, and how we responded in those times. Though you erred in your original post, curse not your past self but bless the future self that had presence enough to see through your mistake. Truly it’s the human miracle that allows us to live and learn, to grow and gain strength. Indeed, what you have made here today is more than any mere typo, but perhaps even the beginning of the rest of your life.
goog. laughing to the bank here
As is the other GOOG, namely Alphabet Inc., Google’s parent company. (GOOG being its ticker symbol.)
Kill some humans, tiny flags for others!
We must now create peace. Not just another period before the next war.
See, from the trolls’ perspective, and the perspective of all the savage races and even some non-humans allied to humans, killing off all the humans will remove a major source of war. Syrinj’s argument did not come out so well here, given her audience.
Could be where Madam Arfa’s words tip the balance: “We thought annihilating (Karmacat’s) people was a great victory, but it brought us misery, nothing but misery…”
Well, the leaders of the humans are using the same argument: if only the other races would only do what we want (like die, surrender, starve, obey every order, …) we wouldn’t have to have any war with them.
Using the same argument as the other side, justifies the other side.
Yet, when the humans say that about every other race, but almost every other race says that about humans and NOT necessarily the others, that tends to show the humans really are the problem.
Remember how the Gnolls genocides all the other “fuzzy people”? I don’t think humans are the biggest evils in this world. They weren’t the ones genociding other races out of existence.
Well it’s not for lack of trying. They are just using other methods. Propaganda to make their allies think that their enemies are subhuman scum, claiming that enslaving other races as cheap labor teaches them how to be industrious, etc.
Yes, I’ve always thought that Gastonia’s leadership and the World’s Rebellion’s leadership are functionally exactly the same–except that Gastonia uses euphemisms. “The dwarf race has doomed itself to extinction,” rather than “genocide.” “Mobilization of the gnomish workforce,” and earlier “secure the orcs…Gastonian interests” rather than “slavery.” If Taro (and his late father) aren’t the most evil characters in the comic, they’re at best tied for first place. (Actually, tied is probably right–but with Ivar, not Harky.)
As Tsapki noted. I doubt the humans expected the Svasi to live, if they gave it any thought. Kicking out of all known territory in wholly inhospitable lands may be short of genocide, but if so, just so.
My warchief told me to kill all humans, and loot I shall!
You know who else likes genocide?
Interesting set-up for the endgame, though I find the assumption that humans are inherently speciest bastards set on subjugation a/o domination a/o extermination of the other sentients laughable and forced.
From what we have been shown of the other sentient races, they all share the same basic need for lebensraum as humans – but are resigned to bitterness in face of the humans succesful alliance/co-optation of the gnomes and some of the elves, not to mention the humans succesful fight against several other species at the same time.
Real-world parallells aside, it will be very interesting to see if the protagonists win based on their own demonstrated skill, will and ability, or if they win becuase they are the protagonists, as is so often the case in modern day fiction, no matter the medium or format.
Whatever it will be, it will certainly prove an enjoyable read no matter what.
Yours,
Rikard
This is a bit ambiguous, and I was hoping you could clarify. Are you saying the story in general is making that assumption? Because if that’s what you mean, I don’t agree. We’ve seen plenty of division among the humans, and I’m not only talking about the adventurers. Just for one example, the Fightopia arc showed that plenty of humans aren’t on board with Gastonia’s simplified us-v-them propaganda, even if only because of the unfair treatment Gastonia has been heaping on them.
On the other hand, if you mean the assumption being made by some of the characters, like Harky and some of the Wood Elf elders, I’m not sure how that seems forced. It’s a huge flaw in their thinking and character, but it’s still very understandable considering the bad blood between them and Gastonia.
Penk is a great character/antihero
Penk…. Harky is a dick.
Harky has a backstory that explains a lot of his hatred for humans.
Normally when a program decides to break script you get a
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Anyone around here feel explodable?
Ah, Goblaurance, gotta love him.
I feel a little explodable. That might just be the gas, though.
Anarchy in the UK of A.
(Don’t explain the joke, don’t explain the joke!)
United Kingdoms of Arkerra.
(I explained the joke.)
“The only issue all sides can always agree on”
Just a matter of agreeing which ones that should be.
Just got caught up and just wanted to say keep up the good work
Of course *WHICH* humans are to get killed, that is where the agreement falls apart again.
And my Avatar is far too cheerful for this line of thinking.