You know..looking back at the start.I really miss the basic premise heroes go adventuring. I mean..did we really need the grey and grey morality or the faction stuff etc?
Like I don’t like these guys,I know others do..but got here for the peacekeepers and the wacky stuff earlier. As I look at this just, it just makes me sad to how far it’s changed.But guess thats me.
I like simple good and bad, and wacky. Pannels of medics being blown up, racism and stuff is..meh
Your sentiment is a popular one. If you accept what the news or politicians tell you (and it is often tempting to do this, instead of doing your own research, and drawing own conclusions)…
… the danger is repeating the Third Reich. Hello, Godwin’s law. :)
Simple good and bad is always attractive, but it’s more dangerous than it seems. Simple good and bad can reinforce destructive and dehumanizing cultural precepts. The civilization versus the barbarians narrative is an unhealthy one that deserves undermining wherever possible.
This, I think, is one of the most important things at all. Tats, if you’ve got some time I very much recommend the linked article. (trigger warning: rape, murder)
The most immediate problem of your wish is that a comic like that has much smaller chance of surviving. If the comic does not evolve, people will most likely get bored. (Unless you’re interested on doing the newspaper strips.. although even they evolve a little.)
I’m actually sorta with you there, but not quite. I like epics more than gag-a-day comics. But I’m so tired of the moral ambiguity stories.
I understand the arguments that other posters have presented here, and yet I really really doubt you can play the nazi card on a fantasy story. I think grey vs grey hasn’t been new since what, the 90’s? To me it doesn’t feel confusing, it just feels played out and boring.
Yeah… Moral ambiguity is soooo 90s…
Today everything is Black and White again! (And look what a big success Hollywood had with this formula the past year!)
I think they’re telling the same story they intended to since day 1. If it’s not your bag, then maybe you should look elsewhere. Those first few adventures were fun, but they were a really small part of the story.
Assuming Avians need to flap their wings to fly and don’t just levitate through magic or will or whatnot, then they’re going to have to cut off their own propulsion or power to reach behind to pull the cords.
That said, I cannot blame Goblaurence for any potential malfunctions or oversights. He cobbled these together on the spot from wreckage under extreme pressure and desperation. It’s the tiniest chance that the Savage Army has for not being obliterated by bombing.
Since they’re bird people, they can probably reach behind and activate it with their taloned feet, meaning they don’t have to plummet from the sky to hit use their weapon…
why do i get the sinking feeling that those rockets won’t release from the bird men and both the bird men and the rockets become a kamikaze attack on the air ships.
Except that this isn’t “for no reason”. This is sacrificing a few troops to save the rest, which is something military leaders find themselves having to do quite often.
I’m with you, Beige. Goblaurence isn’t nice, but neither is he callous nor cruel. His top priority is efficiency- and reusable bombers are far more efficient and far less wasteful than one-shot kamikaze aerial troops.
That’s not to say that the rockets *will* release, though- Laurence had to make them from battlefield wreckage, on the spot, and with little time. As proficient an engineer as he is, he’s bound to have cut some corners and skip some quality control processes. To be honest, that he came up with them on the fly like that is a feat in itself!
Is this the first time we see different sub species of avians. One’s a flamingo or something, the black one’s a crow maybe. Well, based on them in any case.
I see Goblaurence is more concerned about helping the actual army than getting into fistfights with the heroes of the other faction. A lesson both sides could learn from.
Recall, it was Goblaurence who told Penk that it was important to take down at least one Peacemaker, as part of the psychological part of war. Breaking morale is a big plus. And as the previous page shows, there can be additional benefits.
It’s not necessarily the Rebellion, on the whole, that uses the metric system. Remember, Gob is an *engineer*, not any kind of rank-n-file member of his species.
Did you try and post a URL on it, maybe to a previous comic? It will auto-deny a post with a URL in it (I think only if it’s your first post) even if it’s a link back to this site. Had my first post her bonked several times for that. Once your first post is approved, it doesn’t need to do it for later posts with the same email address.
I was just saying I really miss the start premise of the comic.Goofy guys in a mmo dungeon. I mean now it’s drama, grey and grey, and half focus on the World Rebellion dudes.
I came for goofy funny stuff.But seeing medics get blown up, genocide, and jerks like Goblaurence as focused is..meh.
I don’t know it just feels like the comic is going off where I came to enjoy.I feel like dropping this and been reading since beginning.
I saw your post up the page a bit, it must have made it eventually.
From what I can tell, we can’t really say that it has gone off the original premise, as all the stuff happening now was indeed the intended destination of the comic.. do I have that right, those of you who know / pay more attention than me?
Not that that means you can’t dislike it or anything, just saying.
Do Avians have much in the way of tailfeathers? None are visible on this page.
Also, given the two sides of a torso, why put the rocket and launch mechanism on the *back*? (It’s not like these guys have the keel and ridiculously huge pectoral musculature they’d need to plausibly fly non-magically.)
Goblaurence is definitely the second most likeable character in the Horde. He’s basically Macguyver. Just made some goddamn rockets out of broke ass giant robots or something, and strapped them to the backs of some birdmen. Syr’nj basically Deus ex Machina’s magic potions out of her backpack. Not Goblaurence, no. Goblaurence cobbles that shit together on the fly!
If you’re wondering, hyes, most likeable is Auraugu, Champion of the Fuzzy Peoples.
Syr made those potions specifically in preparation for the battle even if it did happen off camera (which is also how Gob made his rockets incidentally).
Yes, unlike dignified names like Bandit (“The Bandit”) Keynes, Frigg, Byron Hackenslasher, and EVERY WOOD ELF’S NAME THAT IS A BLATANT AND OFTEN TERRIBLE PUN.
And then Iceman says: “You are still dangerous… you can be my wingman anytime.”
Blue Leader checking in.
Red 5, standing by.
…I wonder if those airships have any vulnerable exhaust ports?…
“Bullshit, you can be mine.” -Maverick
Vote to name the newbies Biggsbird and Wedgewing.
and they’re red shirted hawkmen
Oh no, he forgot the G-Diffuser.
So, he’s actually going with the rocket aven plan? I was hoping he’d wing it.
Punishments for this nonsense include getting tarred and feathered, and BAM, ZOOM, STRAIGHT TO THE MOON. Because rockets.
Make sure to cast feather-fall
Well, he did science to it on the fly.
But because he had to jury-rig those rockets together, the final results are still up-in-the-air.
NO, no, no! He did ENGINEERING to it on the fly.
This is, like, a completely different team.
The lesson here is that science comes in a vial; engineering comes in a payload.
Well, it’s very difficult to Engineer it if you don’t have the Science for it first…
You know..looking back at the start.I really miss the basic premise heroes go adventuring. I mean..did we really need the grey and grey morality or the faction stuff etc?
Like I don’t like these guys,I know others do..but got here for the peacekeepers and the wacky stuff earlier. As I look at this just, it just makes me sad to how far it’s changed.But guess thats me.
I like simple good and bad, and wacky. Pannels of medics being blown up, racism and stuff is..meh
Your sentiment is a popular one. If you accept what the news or politicians tell you (and it is often tempting to do this, instead of doing your own research, and drawing own conclusions)…
… the danger is repeating the Third Reich. Hello, Godwin’s law. :)
Simple good and bad is always attractive, but it’s more dangerous than it seems. Simple good and bad can reinforce destructive and dehumanizing cultural precepts. The civilization versus the barbarians narrative is an unhealthy one that deserves undermining wherever possible.
This, I think, is one of the most important things at all. Tats, if you’ve got some time I very much recommend the linked article. (trigger warning: rape, murder)
The whole peacekeeper getting slaughterd thing is kind of boring…
The most immediate problem of your wish is that a comic like that has much smaller chance of surviving. If the comic does not evolve, people will most likely get bored. (Unless you’re interested on doing the newspaper strips.. although even they evolve a little.)
I’m actually sorta with you there, but not quite. I like epics more than gag-a-day comics. But I’m so tired of the moral ambiguity stories.
I understand the arguments that other posters have presented here, and yet I really really doubt you can play the nazi card on a fantasy story. I think grey vs grey hasn’t been new since what, the 90’s? To me it doesn’t feel confusing, it just feels played out and boring.
Yeah… Moral ambiguity is soooo 90s…
Today everything is Black and White again! (And look what a big success Hollywood had with this formula the past year!)
I think they’re telling the same story they intended to since day 1. If it’s not your bag, then maybe you should look elsewhere. Those first few adventures were fun, but they were a really small part of the story.
An inability to allow expression of criticism or disagreement is how Tim Buckley got started. Just saying.
…Come to think of it, is mentioning Tim Buckley the webcomic equivalent of comparing someone to Hitler?
Are they sure those things detach when you pull the chord?
No time for extra features!
Assuming Avians need to flap their wings to fly and don’t just levitate through magic or will or whatnot, then they’re going to have to cut off their own propulsion or power to reach behind to pull the cords.
That said, I cannot blame Goblaurence for any potential malfunctions or oversights. He cobbled these together on the spot from wreckage under extreme pressure and desperation. It’s the tiniest chance that the Savage Army has for not being obliterated by bombing.
Since they’re bird people, they can probably reach behind and activate it with their taloned feet, meaning they don’t have to plummet from the sky to hit use their weapon…
Are bird people known for being able to reach heir backs with their feet? I’ve never heard that stereotype.
tail wind might be included hehe
Of course they will detach when the cord is pulled… oh, you mean the bomb and not the wings (and the head, and the spleen, and the gullet, etc…)
why do i get the sinking feeling that those rockets won’t release from the bird men and both the bird men and the rockets become a kamikaze attack on the air ships.
In the words of their generation: Down yours!
That’s what Goblaurence implied would happen when he first came up with the attack.
I don’t see why. it’s a cord – make it stay IN would be harder that letting it come out
I mean, Gobby so far hasn’t seemed the type to willingly kill his troops for no reason, even if he’s not the most fond of em
Except that this isn’t “for no reason”. This is sacrificing a few troops to save the rest, which is something military leaders find themselves having to do quite often.
I’m with you, Beige. Goblaurence isn’t nice, but neither is he callous nor cruel. His top priority is efficiency- and reusable bombers are far more efficient and far less wasteful than one-shot kamikaze aerial troops.
That’s not to say that the rockets *will* release, though- Laurence had to make them from battlefield wreckage, on the spot, and with little time. As proficient an engineer as he is, he’s bound to have cut some corners and skip some quality control processes. To be honest, that he came up with them on the fly like that is a feat in itself!
Reusable bombers… surprisingly elite cannon fodder?
One of those birdmen is a fellow Champion…..
“Rana, you’ve switched off your targeting computer. Are you all right?”
Is this the first time we see different sub species of avians. One’s a flamingo or something, the black one’s a crow maybe. Well, based on them in any case.
Pretty sure it’s a vulture, not a flamingo.
Trigger comes to mind. Let’s hope the safety’s not on.
Ah, good. I’m not the only one.
The safety’s never on ol’Betsy.
Its definitely a toucan.
Does that mean he’s just going to follow his nose?
“What do you wanna do?”
“I dunno, what do you wanna do?”
“Now don’ start that again!”
Or its Nutsy. Although the beak isn’t as bent. :P
This is what I have been waiting for. Battle is on. I knew there was a reason Harky chose Goblaurance.
Avians! ……….. DEEEE-YIIIIIIIIIIIVE!
+1
“mind your tail feathers”
got that reminds me all those bazooka jokes in movies hehe
I can’t help but imagine the buzzard Avian singing to himself as he flies:
“Iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii’m de-livering a goblin I.E.D.
Won’t my warchief be so proud of me?”
…I’m old enough to remember that particular cartoon that you altered the lyrics from. I mentally played the melody as I read your lyrics.
I see Goblaurence is more concerned about helping the actual army than getting into fistfights with the heroes of the other faction. A lesson both sides could learn from.
Recall, it was Goblaurence who told Penk that it was important to take down at least one Peacemaker, as part of the psychological part of war. Breaking morale is a big plus. And as the previous page shows, there can be additional benefits.
Hmm, also it was Penk who ordered Goblaurence yo deal with the blimps I think
Personally, I’m just glad that the World’s Rebellion uses the metric system.
It’s not necessarily the Rebellion, on the whole, that uses the metric system. Remember, Gob is an *engineer*, not any kind of rank-n-file member of his species.
Exactly. Even here in the USA where we’re known for our inches and feet and miles and whatnot, we scientists and engineers use the metric system.
Wow guess my post wasen’t approved?I was just talking about how far the comic has changed.
Did you try and post a URL on it, maybe to a previous comic? It will auto-deny a post with a URL in it (I think only if it’s your first post) even if it’s a link back to this site. Had my first post her bonked several times for that. Once your first post is approved, it doesn’t need to do it for later posts with the same email address.
Nah no link like that.
I was just saying I really miss the start premise of the comic.Goofy guys in a mmo dungeon. I mean now it’s drama, grey and grey, and half focus on the World Rebellion dudes.
I came for goofy funny stuff.But seeing medics get blown up, genocide, and jerks like Goblaurence as focused is..meh.
I don’t know it just feels like the comic is going off where I came to enjoy.I feel like dropping this and been reading since beginning.
I saw your post up the page a bit, it must have made it eventually.
From what I can tell, we can’t really say that it has gone off the original premise, as all the stuff happening now was indeed the intended destination of the comic.. do I have that right, those of you who know / pay more attention than me?
Not that that means you can’t dislike it or anything, just saying.
I personally love it. And for me it seemed from the beginning that a very differentiated picture was being drawn.
Do Avians have much in the way of tailfeathers? None are visible on this page.
Also, given the two sides of a torso, why put the rocket and launch mechanism on the *back*? (It’s not like these guys have the keel and ridiculously huge pectoral musculature they’d need to plausibly fly non-magically.)
Goblaurence is definitely the second most likeable character in the Horde. He’s basically Macguyver. Just made some goddamn rockets out of broke ass giant robots or something, and strapped them to the backs of some birdmen. Syr’nj basically Deus ex Machina’s magic potions out of her backpack. Not Goblaurence, no. Goblaurence cobbles that shit together on the fly!
If you’re wondering, hyes, most likeable is Auraugu, Champion of the Fuzzy Peoples.
Syr made those potions specifically in preparation for the battle even if it did happen off camera (which is also how Gob made his rockets incidentally).
Sure. In her fancy schamncy lab. Probably doesn’t even USE bubblegum as an adhesive.
Gob made his rockets “on camera”. We see him with one unfinished as just two pipes bolted together as he works under fire.
I love Goblins. I love sarcastic world weary assholes. I love Goblaurence. I just wish his name wasn’t quite so ridiculous.
Yes, unlike dignified names like Bandit (“The Bandit”) Keynes, Frigg, Byron Hackenslasher, and EVERY WOOD ELF’S NAME THAT IS A BLATANT AND OFTEN TERRIBLE PUN.
You left out the Best one…
True, true, Goblandon or Goblindsay would have been way more undiculous.
Or wait… Goblouis! (KA-BLOOEY!!)
Wait, Goblaurance’s smokin a cigar without a crook in it.
Looks more like a brown joint to me
Anyone else hearing this when they see the crow fly straight (up)?