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Annotations Every Day - Written by T Campbell & Flo Kahn - Illustrated by John & Jason Waltrip

Burnsauce.

Chapter 6 – Page 21

on August 23, 2010
Chapter: Chapter 06
└ Tags: Bandit, Byron, Frigg, Scarlett, Syr'Nj
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  1. bwernard
    bwernard
    August 23, 2010, 12:03 am | # | Reply

    Never knew nuns couldbe that flammable.

    • Pikey
      Pikey
      August 23, 2010, 12:08 am | # | Reply

      The ones who tote around ether on a regular basis might be.
      But I think that qualifies as a bad habit.

      • Gravedigger
        Gravedigger
        August 23, 2010, 2:16 am | # | Reply

        I applaud you for that pun, sir, whether it was intentional or not.

        • Pikey
          Pikey
          August 23, 2010, 11:48 pm | # | Reply

          It was unintentional to begin with, noticed it, debated keeping it in, and finally decided ‘what the hey’. This is a rough and tumble discussion board, no wimples here. And I haven’t seen any inclinations toward censer-ing posts.

      • bwernard
        bwernard
        August 23, 2010, 7:08 am | # | Reply

        True! I completely forgot about the ether. That would explain it.

        • SamB
          SamB
          August 27, 2010, 11:43 pm | # | Reply

          I didn’t remember about it ether. (In fact, I still don’t remember it.)

      • Hunter S.
        Hunter S.
        August 23, 2010, 9:52 am | # | Reply

        There is nothing more helpless and irresponsible than a nun in the depths of an ether binge.

        • Mic-Gold
          Mic-Gold
          August 23, 2010, 8:33 pm | # | Reply

          She was full of fear and loathing too…

    • ahdok
      ahdok
      August 23, 2010, 3:39 am | # | Reply

      Hmm, must be like cars in grand theft auto games.

  2. Joe
    Joe
    August 23, 2010, 12:09 am | # | Reply

    Moral Event Horizon?

    • schtroumpf
      schtroumpf
      August 23, 2010, 1:18 am | # | Reply

      Or…pure, unadulterated badassery?

      • Nathanyel
        Nathanyel
        August 23, 2010, 10:35 am | # | Reply

        I’m going with schtroumpf’s explanation.

    • Pinky
      Pinky
      August 23, 2010, 1:27 am | # | Reply

      A couple days of torture and the threat of having your person molded into a puppet are extenuating circumstances. Not like they could leave her behind with the sisters under her influence, she is clearly evil as evil comes.

      In D&D terms I’d still put Frigg on neutral (before and after). Payet would be a hell of a lot closer to evil after throwing those kids overboard.

      • chaotik
        chaotik
        August 23, 2010, 2:53 am | # | Reply

        bah..Payet never MEANT to kill anyone(who wasn’t a properly labeled Bad Guy)…not even the so-called berserker when he lost his temper. .it just didn’t occur to him they MIGHT get killed. Frigg, on the other hand, is all about the Chaotic neutral with evil tendancies.

        • Pinky
          Pinky
          August 23, 2010, 3:27 am | # | Reply

          Throwing kids tied to a heavy chain at the ground from a great height … what are the odds something serious happening to them?

          • SotiCoto
            SotiCoto
            February 13, 2014, 4:07 am | # | Reply

            As I remarked on my last run-through… the kids were safer on that chain than on the ship. Payet did them a favour by throwing them over.

        • kagato23
          kagato23
          August 24, 2010, 3:50 am | # | Reply

          See, i’d go the other way. Frigg is clearly chaotic good. Really chaotic good, to be fair, but she’s not out to kill anything that isn’t evil. (and you can’t say what she’s doing now is evil, even Paladins are allowed to smite those they know are in the opposing alignment). Everything else can be explained by the “chaotic” part.

          Best, on the other hand, does things that reek of sociopathology. He’s neutral with evil tendencies, and one could easily see him going full evil under the right circumstances.

      • Joe
        Joe
        August 24, 2010, 10:43 am | # | Reply

        True, true.
        If these were normal nuns and she set them all on fire, I think it would be a MEH.

    • chaotik
      chaotik
      August 23, 2010, 8:30 am | # | Reply

      didn’t say he wasn’t deluded….just that he thought that as the “promised hero” it would make for a flashy, dramatic solution. and for whatever reason, he was completely RIGHT.

    • Faceless Minion
      Faceless Minion
      August 23, 2010, 1:49 pm | # | Reply

      @Joe: Moral Event Horizon? Pfeh, I’ll never understand that concept, really. I will note that the one thing that Dungeons and Dragons 4.0 did right, in terms of the game, was remove the concept of alignment for all but those that truly dedicated themselves to the concept of alignment. The rest of humanity/elfmanity/whatevermanity are, as Firefly would put it, ‘just being folk.’ Frigg just got vengance for a long period of torture, and for the person planning to break her mind and turn her into a handpuppet. Can you honestly say you would do different after that? I know I’d sure make a nun-powered bonfire.

      @chaotik: Payet isn’t deluded. The only reason that he keeps up the “promised hero” guise is that he is ultimately self-centered and it is a very useful tool for him to use to further his own interests. Did he deliberately try and kill those children? No. Would he have cared if they died? Also no.

      • Pyre
        Pyre
        August 23, 2010, 9:40 pm | # | Reply

        Funny, that’s a part of 4.0 I hate. They didn’t really remove the alignment system, they just made it “This is much less accurate now and we can’t be bothered to fix it, so deal with it”. The main problem wasn’t the system, it was so many people having no idea how the system actually worked. But then, that’s sort of the problem/point too – some people fervently prefer the old system, some like the new. I prefer to be able to be specific about character’s alignments instead of having to shoehorn them into others that don’t fit right.

        That said? Frigg is a SHINING example of Chaotic Neutral. Shining, textbook example. Particularly the free-spirited part, here – that fantastic setup leading to “Nah, no controlling orders of soldiers for me” and horrible burn-y death. Chaotic Neutral. And so gloriously so I could get misty eyed over it.

        Also, @Joe – Not a moral event horizon. Just a creative, *unpleasant* coup de grace.

        • Lynxx
          Lynxx
          August 24, 2010, 2:10 pm | # | Reply

          ehh, im gonna have to agree with kagato23 here. Frigg tends to show a outright hatred for evil. she may not be a shininig example of good, but what CG character is? Member when those trolls(or orcs) were enslaved? she was effing pissed.(or is going to be.. thats in the time skip isnt it?)

          • Hagane
            Hagane
            August 24, 2010, 6:57 pm | # | Reply

            Where has Frigg shown an outright hatred of evil? Also most normal people do not care for evil, that doesn’t make them good necessarily. A chaotic neutral character could hate slavery as much as chaotic good. What defines the deference is what actions a person is willing to take and reasons why. I’m not sure if we have seen enough to make a judgement call on either way of her being Chaotic Neutral or Chaotic Good. What makes this a questionable action is how she gives a speech on how things could be changed and be better, but does not allow it to happen. It could be because she doesn’t think head nun can change, but she gives the nun hope that it can.

            • SotiCoto
              SotiCoto
              June 25, 2013, 5:03 am | # | Reply

              I know Chaotic Neutral.

              It is generally the case where anything Good or Evil is regarded as someone else’s problem until it directly hinders the self… and matters of Law are almost always a hindrance.

              Naturally, there are personal quirks. Certain things that a person can hate or love regardless… but the greater context of such things is usually irrelevant. If a Chaotic Neutral character hates slavery, it doesn’t necessarily mean they give a toss about the slaves themselves in any given instance… It probably just reminds them of an unpleasant experience of their own.

              The funny thing is… a Good character will generally kill someone just for being “Evil”. A Lawful character may kill someone for doing something illegal. But if a Chaotic Neutral character kills someone, it is almost always personal.

  3. SteelRaven
    SteelRaven
    August 23, 2010, 12:12 am | # | Reply

    Flame on

  4. SaltyKracka
    SaltyKracka
    August 23, 2010, 12:13 am | # | Reply

    Sorcery?

    BURN THE WITCH!!!

    • south of sanity
      south of sanity
      August 23, 2010, 3:16 am | # | Reply

      We found a witch may we burn her?

      SHE TURNED ME INTO A NEWT!……But i got better >.>

  5. BarGamer
    BarGamer
    August 23, 2010, 12:16 am | # | Reply

    I like how Bandit says “I’m hip.” pretty much directly into Byron’s… hip.

  6. 1d4caltrop
    1d4caltrop
    August 23, 2010, 12:37 am | # | Reply

    I prefer my evil priestess grilled to a nice medium rare. You’ve gotta make sure the flames kiss the fillets just so. Then you serve it up with a baked potato and a melange of peas and baby carrots, or perhaps some green beans or broccoli florets sauteed in garlic butter. Choosing the appropriate wine to accompany the meal is also important. The correct red can bring out the flavors of hickory smoke and damnation.

    But you never, ever ask for burnsauce. Burnsauce is like A-1. If you use it, it shows you a gastronomical philistine, who doesn’t appreciate the inherent qualities of a good cut of meat.

  7. Lloyd
    Lloyd
    August 23, 2010, 1:21 am | # | Reply

    The power is in the sauce. The burning sauce, the burnsauce. Burninate to great victory!

  8. Faceless Minion
    Faceless Minion
    August 23, 2010, 1:38 am | # | Reply

    Oh lord, such wonderful fire. But one wondering at panel three, it would seem like grammar-wise the line should read “…none of the sisters are quite sure what they believe anymore… are they?”

  9. Carl-E
    Carl-E
    August 23, 2010, 2:36 am | # | Reply

    Aww, man…

    The Order of Frigg had such a nice ring to it, to…

  10. Dusty668
    Dusty668
    August 23, 2010, 3:40 am | # | Reply

    That’s hawt.

  11. Atnas
    Atnas
    August 23, 2010, 3:47 am | # | Reply

    Ah, so it was sorcery then? That’s a bit disappointing, I’ve always been a fan of “OUR COLLECTIVE FAITH SUMMONS THE DUUDDDDEEE”. To think that the uh… council thing? Could’ve been fooled so easily.

  12. ChikenKannon
    ChikenKannon
    August 23, 2010, 4:28 am | # | Reply

    They’re at a crossroads, fire better or worse.

    —

    Anyone receive their chapter 0.5s yet?

    • T
      T
      August 23, 2010, 5:29 am | # | Reply

      Dude, if you haven’t, write me directly.

      Most people received theirs quite a while ago. I’ve heard from a very few who haven’t.

  13. Mr Ak
    Mr Ak
    August 23, 2010, 5:16 am | # | Reply

    Yeah. That… was just awesome.

  14. Dojang
    Dojang
    August 23, 2010, 7:21 am | # | Reply

    i’m a little confused. she killed the sorcerer and turned him/her into an empty suit of armour? or she paid a sorcerer to make the empty suit of armour and controlled it? (after killing him?/her?)

    and then rolled in some chemical accelerant?

    • Baronyx
      Baronyx
      August 23, 2010, 7:27 am | # | Reply

      Dude that really wasn’t a torch Frig was holding…

      It was a craftily disguised Molotov

      • Dojang
        Dojang
        August 23, 2010, 8:05 am | # | Reply

        those dungeon torches never seem to go out. some kind of napalm paste?

        • Baronyx
          Baronyx
          August 24, 2010, 7:38 am | # | Reply

          I tend to think of it as ‘Magic goo’

          The same fuel that bums and hobos burn in Oil drums in street alleys

          Stuff lasts forever.

    • matt w
      matt w
      August 23, 2010, 8:15 am | # | Reply

      I think it’s, the priestlord died (see the last panel of the previous strip), she bribed a sorcerer to animate his armor, then killed the sorcerer.

      • Dojang
        Dojang
        August 23, 2010, 6:05 pm | # | Reply

        man, i do some freelance work as an animator…after reading this, i’ll have to be more careful about clients.

        • Gillsing
          Gillsing
          August 23, 2010, 9:05 pm | # | Reply

          I don’t know what you animate, but after the dastardly crime has been revealed by a group of inquisitive kids, and your tragic fate is known to the world, those animations ought to be worth quite a lot. That’s how the art world works, right?

  15. DCB
    DCB
    August 23, 2010, 7:44 am | # | Reply

    Bartender I’ll have a Flaming Nun please, hold the revelation.

    • Niall
      Niall
      August 23, 2010, 9:03 am | # | Reply

      Certainly sir. Would you like that served with a twist of plot? Or a slice of malicious satisfaction perhaps?

      • Pikey
        Pikey
        August 24, 2010, 12:04 am | # | Reply

        I want that wit so dry there’s *dust* on the olive.

  16. Hawk
    Hawk
    August 23, 2010, 8:32 am | # | Reply

    Bad. Ass.

    All I can say is, Frigg’s got a history of burning churches anyways. But still…daaaaaaaaaaaaammmmmmn

  17. KDef
    KDef
    August 23, 2010, 9:36 am | # | Reply

    What an oddly well delivered monologue by Frigg.

  18. Flintte
    Flintte
    August 23, 2010, 10:12 am | # | Reply

    Oh snap, shit just went down.

  19. Fren
    Fren
    August 23, 2010, 10:56 am | # | Reply

    As a crusader, Frigg indeed used the proper force to carry out this execution. Burning away the lies with the fires of truth and that rot. I suppose it remains to be seen if the remainder of the team isn’t too scared to work with her ever again. Perhaps they should also check around and see if Gravedust has a yardstick stuck in his head.

    • Baronyx
      Baronyx
      August 24, 2010, 3:52 pm | # | Reply

      When i read ‘It remains to be seen, if the remainder of the team’
      I actually thought you’d written the whole statement in Rhyming couplets, and had to go back and read the whole thing to see if you had..

      Damn you…

  20. CJ
    CJ
    August 23, 2010, 11:07 am | # | Reply

    Man, nuns sure go up a treat. Having so many in a convent must make it hard to get fire insurance. One idly-thrown cigarette butt and it’s instant Ash Wednesday.

  21. Sineplex
    Sineplex
    August 23, 2010, 4:15 pm | # | Reply

    I’ma point this out now, as I really felt it in this strip:

    Frigg so far is the only character I can’t attach a voice to. Any kind of voice, for a moment even. I’ve made up one for Byron, Dusty, Syr’Nj, Bandit wasn’t that hard… but Frigg I’m just reading and thinking ‘she ain’t a cutesy one’.
    Does that say something about her writing or me?

    • Dojang
      Dojang
      August 23, 2010, 5:37 pm | # | Reply

      actually, i have an ex who is pretty much like a short frigg. right down to coloured hair and use of internet memes in regular speech. so i guess i just hear her voice.

      not that i’m hearing voices…(shifty eyes)

    • Nate
      Nate
      August 23, 2010, 6:09 pm | # | Reply

      Same here. I’ve basically been using Jennifer Hale’s ME2 voice, because she’s been in everything and it’s easy to mentally insert. For fun you could just pick one that doesn’t fit to a hilarious degree, like Wendy Hoopes’s interpretation of “Jane Lane” from Daria.

      And now you will never not hear that.

      • Hawk
        Hawk
        August 24, 2010, 7:41 am | # | Reply

        Hmm, voices for the characters? I don’t know if I mentally assign voice actors or not, since I generally am terrible at recognizing voices…but for Frigg, strangely, I *do* have a notion of what her voice would sound like.

        Uma Thurman.

        Eh, probably weird but yeah.

        • Nate
          Nate
          August 24, 2010, 6:01 pm | # | Reply

          Kill Bill era Uma Thurman? Totally works. Especially on this page.

  22. Jean-Luc
    Jean-Luc
    August 23, 2010, 9:23 pm | # | Reply

    And they would’ve gotten away with it too if it wasn’t for that blasted gnome.

    • Jean-Luc
      Jean-Luc
      August 23, 2010, 11:00 pm | # | Reply

      Noooo, I meant to say “pesky gnome”. :(

      • gangler
        gangler
        August 24, 2010, 2:02 am | # | Reply

        Where was there a gnome?

        • Hawk
          Hawk
          August 24, 2010, 7:42 am | # | Reply

          Bandit be of the gnomish persuasion.

  23. Alex-chan
    Alex-chan
    August 24, 2010, 1:25 am | # | Reply

    I’m betting Frigg’s gonna have a couple of annoying tag alongs even for all her attempts to wash (burn?) her hands of the Order.

    Class change to Paladin anyone?

  24. VexingVision
    VexingVision
    August 24, 2010, 12:37 pm | # | Reply

    Guilded Age is quickly becoming one of my favourite webcomics. Which is really surprising to me for two reason: I’m not a fan of any other T. Campbell’s writing, though I checked all of them out, and I’m already fairly established in what my favourite webcomics are and there hasn’t been much fluctuation in the past three years.

    That said, I pointed today’s comic out to a large variety of people, and kept reading Frigg’s speech. The writing, the timing and the bad-assery is perfect. Just perfect.

    • VexingVision
      VexingVision
      August 24, 2010, 12:38 pm | # | Reply

      Make that “yesterday’s comic which I only managed to get around reading today”. :)

  25. Critis
    Critis
    August 24, 2010, 1:21 pm | # | Reply

    Note to self: Nuns grill pretty well getting the hot sauce….

  26. SongCoyote
    SongCoyote
    April 30, 2012, 9:28 pm | # | Reply

    Incidentally….

    To the authors: there is an underlying theme in a lot of literature – comics, novels, and short stories alike – that in order to show a female character truly beaten down (as close as Frigga ever was to that) that she must have sex forced on her as part of it.

    Thank you, thank you, thank you for avoiding that path. Frigga was brutalized, and that is terrible… but not in such a stereotypical way that can, in spite of itself, further the rape culture that so dominates too many parts of the world today.

    That you make these strong women characters (thanks, Joss) and then give them struggles without needing to rely on that terrible crutch is only part of why this is now one of my favorite comics on the web.

    Light and laughter,
    SongCoyote

    • Phil
      Flo
      May 1, 2012, 8:54 am | # | Reply

      Thanks a lot, SongCoyote. That means we’re accomplishing the goals we set out to fulfill!

      I never really got that anyway. Isn’t a savage beating suffficent? Must one go full rape? It’s like… going that direction invalidates their ability to fight, or be seen as one of the strongest fighters because it renders the fight part meaningless by reduces them to their sexuality in yet another way.

      Or in this case, another author would turn the wicked nuns into some sort of lesbian sex cult. Let’s… let’s just keep it at evil nuns who muscle their way into control.

  27. Hogan
    Hogan
    March 23, 2013, 2:11 pm | # | Reply

    I love when a plan comes together in the spur of the moment :D

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