I mean, that would be a good way to spin this seemingly opportunistic scene around, if the anti grav affected the bullet and ended up shooting Carol in the process.
If it was enough force to stop a bullet, they would already be flying through the ceiling vs floating like the gun itself. Still have a point with HR somehow hacking reality, no telling what laws of physics getting screwed with… prior to the vacuum collapse of the universe.
Bullets carry allot of force so that totally depends on how much deus ex machina HR is pulling along with just whatever the hell those tubes are made from in the first place.
Since presumably everything else in the world isn’t floating, it would be reasonable that the field gets stronger as it gets closer to the tank. Although strong enough to stop a bullet would have potential repercussions due to the material strength of the tube…
One problem with firearms in microgravity… Recoil.
She’ll be tossed backwards with the same amount of force as the bullet gets forwards.
Same force, but obviously different mass, and angular momentum. My point is, if she pulls that trigger she’s going for a thrill ride unlike any at your local county fair.
African, obviously. If it were a European Swallow, it would already be at its destination. Also, African Swallows generally have better access to coconut trees than European Swallows do.
Correct reasoning, wrong conclusion. It is something that is often misunderstood about zero-g.
She will suffer the same force as the bullet. But since her weight is a few thousand times higher than that of the bullet, the force will not be enough to accelerate her to any noteworthy speed. Perhaps a few centimeters per second at most.
If the recoil actually had a force necessary to produce an effect as you describe it, that bullet would tear through the glass, rip about half of HR with it, and get stuck at least 1m below ground before the glass would even start visibly shattering.
I’m still hoping HR’s story has a positive ending. He’s put more effort into achieving his goal than most people spend in their entire lives, and the only thing standing in his way is a momentary loss of self-control.
Carol somehow calming him down would be the best, honestly. The “villain almost wins but is defeated at the last moment” trope isn’t just old at this point, it’s actively depressing – the moral of its story is that no matter how hard you try to reach the top, those below you will always drag you back down.
Maybe people below HR wouldn’t be trying to bring him down if it wasn’t down from atop the bodies, living or otherwise, of everyone in multiple existences.
That can apply to many other villains.
Try watching Devilman Crybaby though, I think you’ll appreciate the ending based on your dislike of the trope you mentioned.
I mean hell that’s without even getting into the glossed over assumption that HR’s version of “trying real hard to reach the top” is something to be lauded in the first place.
I’ll be disappointed if HR gets taken out with a bullet from a gun. He’s got actual manifesting powers here and I was hoping he’d retain enough clarity to keep an eye on his real body, or at least move himself out of that body.
That said I would prefer that Carol be the one to take him down than the other characters. I’m not entirely positive I want HR to win, he did kill a guy in cold blood, but I’m not a huge fan of the main characters pulling a win out just because they’re the main characters.
“Carol somehow calming him down would be the best, honestly.”
I think Carol is thinking on the right track. After all, a bullet in the brain-pan tends to calm people down quite nicely. From raving lunatic to resting peacefully at a rate of about 1000 fps*…
*Depending upon the exact model of gun & the exact specs of the cartridge in use, your results may vary.
Meh, there’s already been one body disposed of sufficiently well that only one nosy reporter even suspected anything. One more won’t make much difference, especially if you can cover it up as exploding equipment in his weird and crazy research lab.
Somehow I feel doubtful that a handgun is going to be capable of stopping someone who has literally gained the power to control gravity via magical means. I suppose he might be too pre-occupied with what is happening in the other world to think to defend himself, if his defenses “require” thinking, but besides that I can’t think of any way in which this could possibly work. Besides, I am hoping that the heroes of the story can manage to finish him off, not anyone else.
Absolutely. Just align your fore sight and your hind sights with your problem, and you’ll have your firing solution. Well, your short range solution, maybe.
[ Disclaimer: The above is only intended as an attempt at humor, and should not be considered as instruction on the proper use of firearms. Any death, dismemberment, and/or damages incurred while adhering to the above are not the responsibility of this commenter. ]
Any sufficiently advanced technology was probably made by engineers who knew that no one would be stupid enough to try to beat it with something as primitive as a slug-thrower.
Just as advanced high-tech engineers failed to make a tighter defense around the Death Star, leaving snub-nose fighters enough room to get through the outer shields…
Reminds me of SG1, when the Asgards needed help from the Terrans, because they no longer had the technology to make primitive projectile weapons, and their energy weapons were ineffective against their greatest foe.
You guys are forgetting the possibility of wind force, as opposed to gravity reversal/negation.
Carol isn’t holding on to the cable as if her life depends on it; her right arm is crooked, instead of straight, implying stability rather than load. And her eyes are half shut as if she were looking into a strong wind. Also this explains her skirt, and (maybe) why the gun is moving in front of her, against the wind but with gravity.
Of course, zero-gee might just do that as air currents move things around. And her eyes are clenched to register Determination or Anger. And after all, this sequence started with the repeal of gravity.
I think it’s more of an effect of gravity-negation than anything else. If gravity was *suddenly* nullified for you while you’re standing up, then your leg muscles are already tensed up to some extent, just to stand upright & keep your balance. As gravity stops affecting you, your own legs will propel you upwards (slowly) before your reflexes can react to try to counteract against the sudden loss of “weight.” Indeed, that’s the whole trick of it…Nothing changes mass or material density, but everything loses it’s weight, right down to zero. Mass in motion will continue to move until it bumps into something else that has mass.
Also, if you’re caught be surprise with gravity-negation while you’re holding something in your hand & you let go of it, your arm is likely to be in motion just as your hand lets go of the object…It will drift away from you. Also, once you leave contact with the floor, the surface of the Earth is still in motion under you, which would appear to make you drift towards one horizontal direction…But your own current velocity is initially the same as the speed of the Earth’s surface, so it will be only a relatively slow drift.
This would also hold true to “stationary” objects on tables & unsecured furniture…They would also tend to drift away from the surface because there’s no pull of gravity for the friction necessary to keep them in place.
What motions they’ve been displaying so far are consistent from normal actions, when caught unawares by a sudden negation of gravity & don’t require wind to make things drift around.
I’m kinda surprised that none of the raised computer access floor tiles have floated up, revealing all the cables underneath. Those things are pretty much just held in place by gravity, though there’s probably some friction between the tiles and the raised grid they rest in and possibly between adjoining tiles. It just takes one of those suction cup handle things to remove a tile. (When they do major wiring projects in a server room, it can look like a giant game of Don’t Break the Ice)
If HR had reversed gravity, then I imagine most of the tiles would have gone flying. But, if he negated gravity, then I’d expect at least a couple of tiles would be loose enough to drift upward, when the grid raised ever so slightly, due to no longer having the weight of all those tiles pushing it down.
Whatever he’s doing is causing visual distortions (in the air?) in panel 3, so, I expect things are about to get even crazier, in there.
Pop goes the weasel, bitches! Bust a cap in that ass!!!
AnnieCarol Get Your Gun!Lieutenant! Is that glass bulletproof?
– No Sir. BLAMBLAMBLAM
“Oh, Carol… I forgot to tell you something about my own tube.”
Adam Baldwin gets the best lines, even when he’s just a side character. ;)
And half of those “best lines” are as Jayne.
Also: be thankful, Carol, that HR’s ‘reverse gravity’ works on your skirt as well as it does you.
actual reversed gravity would do exactly that though…
Now Carol finally realizes what HR was gunning for.
And then Carol shot herself.
I mean, that would be a good way to spin this seemingly opportunistic scene around, if the anti grav affected the bullet and ended up shooting Carol in the process.
If it was enough force to stop a bullet, they would already be flying through the ceiling vs floating like the gun itself. Still have a point with HR somehow hacking reality, no telling what laws of physics getting screwed with… prior to the vacuum collapse of the universe.
Potentially the bullet would lose enough velocity by the time it impacted the tank, if that is the target, it would do absolutely nothing. “plink”.
Bullets carry allot of force so that totally depends on how much deus ex machina HR is pulling along with just whatever the hell those tubes are made from in the first place.
Since presumably everything else in the world isn’t floating, it would be reasonable that the field gets stronger as it gets closer to the tank. Although strong enough to stop a bullet would have potential repercussions due to the material strength of the tube…
I know, let’s boycott the game!
I just unfollowed Hurricane on Twitter and encourage others to do the same.
Ragequit. Yes. Very mature.
One problem with firearms in microgravity… Recoil.
She’ll be tossed backwards with the same amount of force as the bullet gets forwards.
Same force, but obviously different mass, and angular momentum. My point is, if she pulls that trigger she’s going for a thrill ride unlike any at your local county fair.
You have a fitting avatar for the explanation. *offers some good stuff*
Her situation is not so dire if she holds the cable with one hand and puts the muzzle of the gun directly perpendicular to the glass tube near HR.
Of course, it is also said that a swallow in its migrations could transport a coconut to Europe, if it were to grip it by the husk…
African? Or European?
African, obviously. If it were a European Swallow, it would already be at its destination. Also, African Swallows generally have better access to coconut trees than European Swallows do.
Correct reasoning, wrong conclusion. It is something that is often misunderstood about zero-g.
She will suffer the same force as the bullet. But since her weight is a few thousand times higher than that of the bullet, the force will not be enough to accelerate her to any noteworthy speed. Perhaps a few centimeters per second at most.
If the recoil actually had a force necessary to produce an effect as you describe it, that bullet would tear through the glass, rip about half of HR with it, and get stuck at least 1m below ground before the glass would even start visibly shattering.
I said, “obviously different mass.” I know she’s not gonna FLY away. But without anything to brace against, she IS going to spin and tumble.
I’m still hoping HR’s story has a positive ending. He’s put more effort into achieving his goal than most people spend in their entire lives, and the only thing standing in his way is a momentary loss of self-control.
Carol somehow calming him down would be the best, honestly. The “villain almost wins but is defeated at the last moment” trope isn’t just old at this point, it’s actively depressing – the moral of its story is that no matter how hard you try to reach the top, those below you will always drag you back down.
Your name is highly descriptive!
Maybe people below HR wouldn’t be trying to bring him down if it wasn’t down from atop the bodies, living or otherwise, of everyone in multiple existences.
That can apply to many other villains.
Try watching Devilman Crybaby though, I think you’ll appreciate the ending based on your dislike of the trope you mentioned.
The phrase “those below you” carries with it a loooot of unfortunate implicit beliefs here, yikes.
I mean hell that’s without even getting into the glossed over assumption that HR’s version of “trying real hard to reach the top” is something to be lauded in the first place.
I’ll be disappointed if HR gets taken out with a bullet from a gun. He’s got actual manifesting powers here and I was hoping he’d retain enough clarity to keep an eye on his real body, or at least move himself out of that body.
That said I would prefer that Carol be the one to take him down than the other characters. I’m not entirely positive I want HR to win, he did kill a guy in cold blood, but I’m not a huge fan of the main characters pulling a win out just because they’re the main characters.
“Carol somehow calming him down would be the best, honestly.”
I think Carol is thinking on the right track. After all, a bullet in the brain-pan tends to calm people down quite nicely. From raving lunatic to resting peacefully at a rate of about 1000 fps*…
*Depending upon the exact model of gun & the exact specs of the cartridge in use, your results may vary.
Who says violence never solves anything?
People who haven’t been “solved” yet.
Ask any Carthaginian you meet. Oh, wait….
If violence doesn’t solve your problem, then you haven’t applied enough violence yet.
I don’t remember where I heard that…Either the Evil Overlord’s Handbook or Shlock’s Mercenaries would be my first thoughts about that.
Is that HR talking or the gun? Might be Megatron in disguise.
This will be fun to explain to the police…
Especially if the effects are localized to that room!
Meh, there’s already been one body disposed of sufficiently well that only one nosy reporter even suspected anything. One more won’t make much difference, especially if you can cover it up as exploding equipment in his weird and crazy research lab.
Re; alt text
“That’s a sight for sore eyes!”
Better than a sight for psoriasis!
You mean a Visine factory? A site for sore-eye assist?
So does this mean Carol & Co. have been listening to one half of a conversation this whole time?
The glass may be bulletproof but most cables are not. If there’s fireaxe she could either try to cut them or try to shoot them.
Somehow I feel doubtful that a handgun is going to be capable of stopping someone who has literally gained the power to control gravity via magical means. I suppose he might be too pre-occupied with what is happening in the other world to think to defend himself, if his defenses “require” thinking, but besides that I can’t think of any way in which this could possibly work. Besides, I am hoping that the heroes of the story can manage to finish him off, not anyone else.
Re: your first sentence … remember Avatar vs. Black Wolf in Bakshi’s “Wizards” (would’ve linked the youtube clip if I knew how)
Just find the clip on youtube, and copy/paste the URL. You don’t NEED to do fancy html tags.
I’ve got that movie on video tape. First time I saw that on TV though, I have to admit that Avatar made my jaw drop. AND lol.
What about the capital, now ?
And what about Daniel, Lia and Chrissie ?
Of course, BULLETS the solution is so obvious in hindsight!
The bad part is if you can’t keep enough sight on your hind (end) to prevent a bullet from going there…
Absolutely. Just align your fore sight and your hind sights with your problem, and you’ll have your firing solution. Well, your short range solution, maybe.
[ Disclaimer: The above is only intended as an attempt at humor, and should not be considered as instruction on the proper use of firearms. Any death, dismemberment, and/or damages incurred while adhering to the above are not the responsibility of this commenter. ]
Any sufficiently advanced technology was probably made by engineers who knew that no one would be stupid enough to try to beat it with something as primitive as a slug-thrower.
Just as advanced high-tech engineers failed to make a tighter defense around the Death Star, leaving snub-nose fighters enough room to get through the outer shields…
Reminds me of SG1, when the Asgards needed help from the Terrans, because they no longer had the technology to make primitive projectile weapons, and their energy weapons were ineffective against their greatest foe.
You guys are forgetting the possibility of wind force, as opposed to gravity reversal/negation.
Carol isn’t holding on to the cable as if her life depends on it; her right arm is crooked, instead of straight, implying stability rather than load. And her eyes are half shut as if she were looking into a strong wind. Also this explains her skirt, and (maybe) why the gun is moving in front of her, against the wind but with gravity.
Of course, zero-gee might just do that as air currents move things around. And her eyes are clenched to register Determination or Anger. And after all, this sequence started with the repeal of gravity.
Or maybe I’m just massively overthinking this…
I think it’s more of an effect of gravity-negation than anything else. If gravity was *suddenly* nullified for you while you’re standing up, then your leg muscles are already tensed up to some extent, just to stand upright & keep your balance. As gravity stops affecting you, your own legs will propel you upwards (slowly) before your reflexes can react to try to counteract against the sudden loss of “weight.” Indeed, that’s the whole trick of it…Nothing changes mass or material density, but everything loses it’s weight, right down to zero. Mass in motion will continue to move until it bumps into something else that has mass.
Also, if you’re caught be surprise with gravity-negation while you’re holding something in your hand & you let go of it, your arm is likely to be in motion just as your hand lets go of the object…It will drift away from you. Also, once you leave contact with the floor, the surface of the Earth is still in motion under you, which would appear to make you drift towards one horizontal direction…But your own current velocity is initially the same as the speed of the Earth’s surface, so it will be only a relatively slow drift.
This would also hold true to “stationary” objects on tables & unsecured furniture…They would also tend to drift away from the surface because there’s no pull of gravity for the friction necessary to keep them in place.
What motions they’ve been displaying so far are consistent from normal actions, when caught unawares by a sudden negation of gravity & don’t require wind to make things drift around.
I’m kinda surprised that none of the raised computer access floor tiles have floated up, revealing all the cables underneath. Those things are pretty much just held in place by gravity, though there’s probably some friction between the tiles and the raised grid they rest in and possibly between adjoining tiles. It just takes one of those suction cup handle things to remove a tile. (When they do major wiring projects in a server room, it can look like a giant game of Don’t Break the Ice)
If HR had reversed gravity, then I imagine most of the tiles would have gone flying. But, if he negated gravity, then I’d expect at least a couple of tiles would be loose enough to drift upward, when the grid raised ever so slightly, due to no longer having the weight of all those tiles pushing it down.
Whatever he’s doing is causing visual distortions (in the air?) in panel 3, so, I expect things are about to get even crazier, in there.