You don’t understand, do you?
You only do a favour for a Chaotic Neutral if they requested it (or sometimes if you owe them)… THEN they’ll thank you.
Try doing a favour for a Chaotic Neutral unbidden… and it will be treated like you’re trying to collar them… and nothing will make a C/N hate you quite so much as trying to collar them, so to speak.
You know, I do see Frigg’s point. Syr’nj is apologizing for a drunken insult, when right now her biggest concern as a healer should be the fact that her patient is beaten, fatigued, and probably dehydrated/malnourished. Besides, I’m sure Frigg’s been called worse than ‘knothole’. She’s definitely called people worse things XD.
Certainly she’s even more bad tempered when injured than she is when kicking ass.
Interesting to see what the rest of the group does now. If I had a player reacting that way, there’d be a “therapy session” as the player explained (again) the difference between roleplay and actually being pissed at the other players. Most of the time my players don’t bother with this kind of outburst even though at least one of the characters would react just this way!!
let me axe YOU a question, GA team. for about 20 min before this page went up, i was unable to get here. page kept timing out. not an issue at my end. something you might want to look into. y’know. mix up a magic potion in your html POULDRON.
Since we’re talking about the differences between looting and theft, I’d like to say that I’ve always had trouble reconciling myself with paladins looting. Am I alone here?
It’s only grave robbing if there’s a grave involved. Taking loot off a dead but not buried body = Fair game. That’s even how it was in real life Medieval Times (not the attraction) You’d always get the local peasants picking over the fallen warriors after a battle for trinkets to pay for their next meal beside the ravens pecking the corpses for the best meat.
“Spoils of battle aren’t theft.”
Of course, they are. I mean, when you pick up, say, a beret, or any other item from captured enemy troops, it’s not like you ask them to sell it to you or something like that.
Not to mention when a city is taken over by the army you fight in, breaking into civilians’ houses and taking stuffs like silverware isn’t spoil of battle either, but plain theft.
That’s just my opinion, though. I’d like to know what the military laws say about this.
Theft implies ownership. You can’t steal something no one can lay claim to. If possession is nine-tenths of the law, then a corpse has no legal right to anything let alone an empty suit of enchanted armor.
That thing you smited was evil. It did not deserve those gains, which, even if not ill-gotten, were certainly undeserved.
Putting it in the hands of the righetous is only necessary. Not only did your god give it to you, but it NEEDS to be used/spent. Now it has serviced the cause of good!
Leaving it there would have risked letting it idle (A sin in itself) or letting it be used for neutral or evil purposes. By taking it, you know what it furthers.
Most Paladin Orders include a vow to tithe. Technically, the paladin is collecting spoils, wealth, equipment, and items so that the order and by default the religious body can propagate its agenda. The paladin keeps only enough to live on and upgrade equipment as needed. The rest goes to the “church”. So looting the bodies is actually a part of her job. Good thing there isn’t a paladin in the party or Byron and the Bandit might have some competition.
I once had a player in a game I was GMing ask me the same thing. I told him to go ahead and try it it, if your deity is unhappy with what you’re doing you’ll find out kinda quick.
Well if we were to take Christianity as an example (since it is the de facto religion upon which any Paladin type class is based) I think very few deities would take offense to looting the dead. There are only a few isolated cases in the Old Testament where people were punished for looting, but in all those cases those people had been given explicit directions NOT to take anything.
Couple this with the fact that the Bible mentions money and prosperity in some 700 instances throughout the text and I’d say that God thinks money is kinda important.
Given that it’s just the pauldrons, it’s not exactly heavy armor, just “Metal bits to guard my shoulders/prevent horizontal swings from severing my sensitive neckparts.”
I’ll buy it too if he ever truly earns the title of berserker.
I said it months ago, and I’ll say it again now: Byron is a great character, but he’s one lousy excuse for a berserker.
I don’t want to hurt the creative team’s feelings. Really. This is one of my favorite webcomics and has been since it was less than a month old. But WHY is this guy called a BERSERKER when he’s NOT ONE?! THIS HAS BEEN ANNOYING ME ALL ALONG!!! AARGH GARRR GRAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRGHGHGHG!!!!!! *removes twin katanas from back and goes batshit on all and sundry*
I know we’ve been chastised for the obnoxious amount of punnery but I blame the alt text for starting it. Or is this one of the chicken v. egg type situation?
Aw c’mon Frigg! Gratitude is a bit much perhaps, but you could at least reduce them to only quarter-sucking!
Gratitude?
You don’t understand, do you?
You only do a favour for a Chaotic Neutral if they requested it (or sometimes if you owe them)… THEN they’ll thank you.
Try doing a favour for a Chaotic Neutral unbidden… and it will be treated like you’re trying to collar them… and nothing will make a C/N hate you quite so much as trying to collar them, so to speak.
Byron is right, looting is a totally different thing from stealing.
Technically, I believe he’s pillaging.
Normally I’d disagree, but Frig torched the Number One Nun; and pillaging is, by requirement, accompanied by FIRE.
Boss-looting is different from both of those….
Meeh, according to me it isn’t stealing since he killed them first so it is his by the right of might! :)
lewt whores FTW!!
You know, I do see Frigg’s point. Syr’nj is apologizing for a drunken insult, when right now her biggest concern as a healer should be the fact that her patient is beaten, fatigued, and probably dehydrated/malnourished. Besides, I’m sure Frigg’s been called worse than ‘knothole’. She’s definitely called people worse things XD.
Heh. Never looked at it that way. :)
Certainly she’s even more bad tempered when injured than she is when kicking ass.
Interesting to see what the rest of the group does now. If I had a player reacting that way, there’d be a “therapy session” as the player explained (again) the difference between roleplay and actually being pissed at the other players. Most of the time my players don’t bother with this kind of outburst even though at least one of the characters would react just this way!!
Byron better leave the new shoulder gear at home if he spends a night at the Roxbury. He’ll wind up with a splitting headache.
Now all he needs to do is get a hold of Payet’s guitar and he’ll get the set bonus.
let me axe YOU a question, GA team. for about 20 min before this page went up, i was unable to get here. page kept timing out. not an issue at my end. something you might want to look into. y’know. mix up a magic potion in your html POULDRON.
Sound like Byron needs…
…Moar Daxeka. *Shades* http://brachinus.files.wordpress.com/2010/05/csi_yeah_skyline.jpg
Also, can you smell friendship moment? I can totally smell friendship moment.
What’s “Daxeka”?
I have a feeling he used Artistic License for this TV Trope: http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/MoreDakka
What SaltyKracka actually means is “more choppa.”
And we all know ladies love a man who wears axe.
Get some shoulder action!
Since we’re talking about the differences between looting and theft, I’d like to say that I’ve always had trouble reconciling myself with paladins looting. Am I alone here?
Also ax math is the best math
Well if $DEITY didn’t want you to have the wealth, they wouldn’t have helped you kill the creature and/or they’d stop you from looting, right?
Also, since the guy died it’s not theft since no one owns it anymore. It might be graverobbing, but that’s probably not so bad in their world?
It’s only grave robbing if there’s a grave involved. Taking loot off a dead but not buried body = Fair game. That’s even how it was in real life Medieval Times (not the attraction) You’d always get the local peasants picking over the fallen warriors after a battle for trinkets to pay for their next meal beside the ravens pecking the corpses for the best meat.
Its not theft because it’s spoils of battle. Spoils of battle aren’t theft.
“Spoils of battle aren’t theft.”
Of course, they are. I mean, when you pick up, say, a beret, or any other item from captured enemy troops, it’s not like you ask them to sell it to you or something like that.
Not to mention when a city is taken over by the army you fight in, breaking into civilians’ houses and taking stuffs like silverware isn’t spoil of battle either, but plain theft.
That’s just my opinion, though. I’d like to know what the military laws say about this.
Theft implies ownership. You can’t steal something no one can lay claim to. If possession is nine-tenths of the law, then a corpse has no legal right to anything let alone an empty suit of enchanted armor.
Technically, possession is nine points of the law, not nine tenths.
That thing you smited was evil. It did not deserve those gains, which, even if not ill-gotten, were certainly undeserved.
Putting it in the hands of the righetous is only necessary. Not only did your god give it to you, but it NEEDS to be used/spent. Now it has serviced the cause of good!
Leaving it there would have risked letting it idle (A sin in itself) or letting it be used for neutral or evil purposes. By taking it, you know what it furthers.
Most Paladin Orders include a vow to tithe. Technically, the paladin is collecting spoils, wealth, equipment, and items so that the order and by default the religious body can propagate its agenda. The paladin keeps only enough to live on and upgrade equipment as needed. The rest goes to the “church”. So looting the bodies is actually a part of her job. Good thing there isn’t a paladin in the party or Byron and the Bandit might have some competition.
I once had a player in a game I was GMing ask me the same thing. I told him to go ahead and try it it, if your deity is unhappy with what you’re doing you’ll find out kinda quick.
Well if we were to take Christianity as an example (since it is the de facto religion upon which any Paladin type class is based) I think very few deities would take offense to looting the dead. There are only a few isolated cases in the Old Testament where people were punished for looting, but in all those cases those people had been given explicit directions NOT to take anything.
Couple this with the fact that the Bible mentions money and prosperity in some 700 instances throughout the text and I’d say that God thinks money is kinda important.
That’s a nice set of shoulder-blades.
Dangit you took my pun! :P
the alt-text took mine… :(
To be honest, I was amazed that 14 comments went by without this pun being made.
Love Byron’s character, tweak away the berzerker barbarian to the core thoughts about the idea. :3
If you know what’s good for you, you don’t get him mad
+
Axes are the best weapons
Now a berzerker that wears heavy armor, apparently.
Given that it’s just the pauldrons, it’s not exactly heavy armor, just “Metal bits to guard my shoulders/prevent horizontal swings from severing my sensitive neckparts.”
Frigg reminds me of Leeloo from the 5th Element with her bandage underwear.
Frigg has vastly more meat on her bones.
Hammers are really big lockpicks, but axes are where it’s at.
Looks like Byron took a sAXEton math course.
Wow – those pauldrons really serve to r-hatchet up Byron’s appearance.
For the record, I love this webcomic. Just wanted to put that out there.
A+ would read again
I think panel 3 would make a WICKED shirt.
Seriously, Byron’s face, with hair blowing in the wind, with text just below: “Now with 100% more Axe!”
I’d buy it.
Cheers,
Cote
Yes. That shirt. Will buy.
I’ll buy it too if he ever truly earns the title of berserker.
I said it months ago, and I’ll say it again now: Byron is a great character, but he’s one lousy excuse for a berserker.
I don’t want to hurt the creative team’s feelings. Really. This is one of my favorite webcomics and has been since it was less than a month old. But WHY is this guy called a BERSERKER when he’s NOT ONE?! THIS HAS BEEN ANNOYING ME ALL ALONG!!! AARGH GARRR GRAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRGHGHGHG!!!!!! *removes twin katanas from back and goes batshit on all and sundry*
I think Byron mentions somewhere that the berserker label is pretty much just a marketing ploy.
Actually I believe that was a wholly independent guest strip where he mentions this
I know we’ve been chastised for the obnoxious amount of punnery but I blame the alt text for starting it. Or is this one of the chicken v. egg type situation?
I think the alt text only serves to encourage the incorrigible.
I only pun when people are doing an exceptionally poor job of it.
It isn’t something I’m proud of, but I hate to see anything done poorly… especially if I can do it better despite not wanting to.
Nawwww, it’s the number of puns. I believe it was the number of POSTS. Some folks might just need to round all their punnery up into one post :P
Naw, thats axe-ing too much of them.
Beating the dead horse isn’t any more acceptable if you happen to use an axe-handle for the task, y’know.
Seriously, no one pointed out the obvious pun? I mean the Priestlord’s “Righteous” pauldrons? -_-
Well, one of them is righteous, and the other is lefteous.
A home is just a place to keep your stuff while you go out and get more stuff.
it’s actually only 93% more axes