Adventuring: You start out poor, scrounging to get everything you need. And by the end you’re throwing astral diamonds to beggars, destroying economies without a second thought.
Unless you live a life of being a beggar anyways who just wastes money on armor you don’t have the stats for yet (and won’t have the stats for it unless you train for at least 5 days without sleep)
If you survive the initial hardships that is, that’s why it is good to have a thief: Easy Money = Incressed chance of survival. :)
Unless it is Call of Cthulhu of course, because then you can bet your boots on that the police will track down the thief and go Judge Dread on your behind! -.-‘ ^^
well… in runescape i scrounged, then inherited and ran mah own kingdom…. then money wasn’t a problem, but i stilll wasn’t rich enough to get the best armor in the game…..
what does that make me? middle class? it takes a whole damned kingdom to be MIDDLE CLASS!?
Fun fact : My Call of Cthulhu character survived an entire campaign and didn’t even go insane. Compare that to the pile of dead D&D characters I have to my name, none of which ever survived more than a few levels irrespective of where they started… all outsurvived by my one CoC dude.
Side effects of Healing Potion include duck-billed platy-pus, hemorroad rage, mano-a-manonucleosis, it ain’t easy being gangrene, and death by chocolate.
I’ve heard “no homo” thrown around before the Boondocks episode in question aired. I can say the term was coined before it, but that episode certainly popularized it.
The evolution of language is such that the meaning of ‘homophobia’ has come to include the unfair prejudice as well. The prejudice does go hand in hand with irrational fear, after all, so I don’t think it’s that far off the mark.
‘Course, I could have just been more precise and gone with, “It’s great to see bigotry enshrined in popular culture like that,” but then you have the problem of people being alarmed when they see the ‘b-word’, and discourse breaks down as they scramble to explain just why a term that that equates a group of people with something bad isn’t REALLY bigoted.
think about it though. isn’t that a little belittling to people who really have that phobia? use of language is a choice. (hence my complete lack of capital letters. i’m such a rebel)
“homophobia” is also kinda insulting to the, for lack of a better word -genderist- implying that someone’s disgust or predjudice stems from fear, when no such evidence exists. how do you know it stems from fear? wikipedia says that the word is inaccurate, because the motivation is more commonly disgust and disdain.
i dunno, man. like i said, the word just bugs me. it’s innaccurate, and it feels like a knee-jerk reaction to slurs like ‘queer’. if you don’t call homosexuals their relevant slurs, then perhaps homophobe is also a little strong to be using.
for the record! love is love! gay marriage should be legal! i’m discussing semantics here.
i don’t think it’s fear, obi. i’m not one to support sexism, racism or genderism in any form, but to imply fear when you mean predjudice is a gross misuse of the english language. MAYBE some people who are genderist DO fear homosexuals, but from what i’ve seen, it more often stems from disgust or simple tribalism- and in any case, to blanket it like that under “fear” seems lazy and a knee-jerk insult. i can’t say it any clearer than that.
i’ll concede that it’s become common use, but i don’t have to like it.
Phobia is simply an aversion… or strong negative reaction. It can as easily be hatred as fear. Do keep in mind its use in chemistry… and the fact that molecules don’t “fear” each other… yes?
I’ve met quite a few people that truly fear anything different, including homosexual tendencies. One of them literally went into a fit of shaking, white-knuckled, cold sweat drench before they passed out because they shook hands with a cross dresser. A very attractive cross dresser, who happened to be gay. ( I’ve met quite a few straight ones and damn they look good…) If that isn’t a phobia, a very physical manifestion of an uncontrollable, unreasonable fear, then I don’t know what is.
Honestly, I don’t get why it bothers people so much.
But then I suppose maybe they’re just oversensitive… or maybe they’ve never been bullied by irrelevant prats for long enough that this sort of thing became the status quo. Who knows?
If one dude wants to hate on another, who cares what his reason is or whether it adds up or whatever? Hating is gonna happen either way… and making some hate more special than others is just an extra slap in the face to those of us who are “acceptable targets” either way.
I’d say one doesn’t and shouldn’t have to accept the social perpetuation of hate. Therefore I understand smaller’s critique. Nevertheless: Frigg is a biased being and quite well characterized as such.
Hate is as natural a thing as love is… which, far from being any sort of ethical declaration of righteousness, should at least point out that it is far too prevalent and automatic to simply be rid of. For all the distaste people find in being subjected to it, they are unanimously far to prone to resort to it themselves.
The fact is that hate serves purposes well beyond any peurile human concern… and society’s campaign against it is much like Don Quixote versus the windmills: pointless, ridiculous, futile and an utter waste of effort. You might as well try to empty the ocean with a teaspoon.
No homo has been around since at -least- the early ’90s here in NYC. I mean, honestly guys, half of Riley’s characterization comes from the notion that the kid just won’t stop imitating mainstream big media rappers– and with the move to Woodcrest, the media is really all the exposure to “the streets” he has. So if you hear him say something you can be sure it’s borderline outdated by mixtape circle standards. That’s literally half the joke right there.
She says “no homo,” yet her name is Frigg. Though, I suppose that could simply be simply auto, rather than homo. Hmm. Actually, really similar to Han Solo, come to think of it. Just follow the near-rhyme, you’ll get it too.
Campbell, Henderson, and Kahn. As noted on the bottom right of the comic. (Likely writing duties are divided between Campbell and Kahn–Henderson’s bio seems to be exclusively about drawing.)
The last two panels kind of sums up the party nicely. Syr’s a mother hen, Friggs hell on two legs, Bandit goes with said trouble, Byron sets someone up for the one liner, and Gravedust is deadpan humor (pun intended) no homo.
Shots, the glue that holds the party together…sort of.
I’m sure I’ve said it before, others have said it, gonna say it again anyway.
This webcomic is AWESOME.
(I don’t get the No Homo reference at all. I mean, I comprehend what the phrase probably *means* but I have no clue where it might come from. Boondocks? As in Boondock Saints??)
The phrase comes from “The Boondocks” a comic-based TV series by Aaron McGruder that airs on Adult swim. I’d explain the phrase, but then that would save you the awesome of seeing the series for yourself.
Ah, thank you for that. I wasn’t sure most of the commenters here were realizing it’s supposed to be Frigg being offensive, not Frigg being funny and quotable.
I don’t see a conflict between offensive and funny/quotable, but even so I didn’t see it as “Frigg being offensive” so much as “Frigg saying something stupid”. Because nowadays, when we live in an enlightened society, homophobia is seen as stupid/evil, and made fun of by having not-so-smart characters display such attitudes. Or the character is made fun of by having them display such an obviously stupid attitude. I guess it cuts both ways, and neither of those ways is supposed to cut the Enlightened Reader.
But of course the inverse of that is when only parts of society see homophobia as stupid/evil, the rest of society crows over it as perfectly acceptable (and funny!) things to say. Try explaining some time to a group of otherwise intelligent, non-racist, less-sexist-than-most, who-say-they-support-teh-gays nerds just why hearing them say “That’s so gay,” is offensive.
And so it’s important to at least mention that, no, that would not be an acceptable thing for rational, good people to say. Because otherwise the stupid young fucks will perpetuate it without a second thought. If you at least say something, maybe they’ll still perpetuate it, but they might grow out of it sooner.
can we bring this shame globe of offensive offensiveness around full circle and also point out that midget isn’t cool to say anymore either please I need to check it off my enlightened person bingo card thanks
It’s just something ‘street’ people say. Cause ya know it’s not masculine to express affection so when you are being nice or appreciative of one of your friends you throw that out. It’s like a disclaimer. It adds a “not in that way” to an “I like you”
90’s American street slang that has been popularized by modern media (including rap songs and a couple of television shows, not just the one cartoon) for the win. :)
I like how Frigg’s first priority is her weapon and her second is drinking… Getting clothed (or at least armored because we know bandit has that in her little bag of goodies) before going to a public bar seems to be a distant third.
Have you noticed how Bandit seems to introduce herself with her full name the exact same way as before? Do you think she’s trying to Robin Hood herself? Visions of fame perhaps?
Heartwarming, in a weird way.
Awwwww.
Yes, it’s far, far too late to put her back….
And I’m still waiting for a morning after shot of a few sisters at the foot of Frigg’s bed waiting expectantly for orders/to serve her breakfast.
Adventuring: You start out poor, scrounging to get everything you need. And by the end you’re throwing astral diamonds to beggars, destroying economies without a second thought.
Unless you live a life of being a beggar anyways who just wastes money on armor you don’t have the stats for yet (and won’t have the stats for it unless you train for at least 5 days without sleep)
If you survive the initial hardships that is, that’s why it is good to have a thief: Easy Money = Incressed chance of survival. :)
Unless it is Call of Cthulhu of course, because then you can bet your boots on that the police will track down the thief and go Judge Dread on your behind! -.-‘ ^^
well… in runescape i scrounged, then inherited and ran mah own kingdom…. then money wasn’t a problem, but i stilll wasn’t rich enough to get the best armor in the game…..
what does that make me? middle class? it takes a whole damned kingdom to be MIDDLE CLASS!?
Fun fact : My Call of Cthulhu character survived an entire campaign and didn’t even go insane. Compare that to the pile of dead D&D characters I have to my name, none of which ever survived more than a few levels irrespective of where they started… all outsurvived by my one CoC dude.
Oooooh no. I learned long ago that when the ladies start doing shots, the best thing you can do is just stay out of the way.
Magic usually happens if shots were to take place ;)
No homo! If Bandit want to keep her fingers they’d better not find themselves on Frigg’s skin.
Also, Gravedust and Byron better hope there’s a friendly bar boy or there’s gonna be straws to draw.
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i find myself amazed by friggs languige. and i dont mean swear words. i mean how she talks,like,street.
You get all sorts of players at a gaming store’s pick-up campaign.
Its a direct homage to the cartoon version of the boondocks. No homo!
I’ve heard “no homo” thrown around before the Boondocks episode in question aired. I can say the term was coined before it, but that episode certainly popularized it.
“no homo” “my homie bros” “homeslice”…is there a contradiction there that i’m missing?
the perhaps more correct “not gay!” has been a popular thing here in tassie since forever.
You’re from Tasmania? Sweet, me too!
what have i DONE. now they know where i LIVE.
Yeah. It’s just great to see homophobia enshrined in popular culture like that.
that’s a word that bugs me. a phobia is an irrational fear. that’s a very different thing to just an unfair predjudice.
The evolution of language is such that the meaning of ‘homophobia’ has come to include the unfair prejudice as well. The prejudice does go hand in hand with irrational fear, after all, so I don’t think it’s that far off the mark.
‘Course, I could have just been more precise and gone with, “It’s great to see bigotry enshrined in popular culture like that,” but then you have the problem of people being alarmed when they see the ‘b-word’, and discourse breaks down as they scramble to explain just why a term that that equates a group of people with something bad isn’t REALLY bigoted.
think about it though. isn’t that a little belittling to people who really have that phobia? use of language is a choice. (hence my complete lack of capital letters. i’m such a rebel)
“homophobia” is also kinda insulting to the, for lack of a better word -genderist- implying that someone’s disgust or predjudice stems from fear, when no such evidence exists. how do you know it stems from fear? wikipedia says that the word is inaccurate, because the motivation is more commonly disgust and disdain.
i dunno, man. like i said, the word just bugs me. it’s innaccurate, and it feels like a knee-jerk reaction to slurs like ‘queer’. if you don’t call homosexuals their relevant slurs, then perhaps homophobe is also a little strong to be using.
for the record! love is love! gay marriage should be legal! i’m discussing semantics here.
Don’t try it, Anakin. He’s got the high ground.
Apropos of nothing, I’ve always felt that the knee-jerk disgust and disdain stems from fear (specifically of the unknown or the perceived unnatural).
i don’t think it’s fear, obi. i’m not one to support sexism, racism or genderism in any form, but to imply fear when you mean predjudice is a gross misuse of the english language. MAYBE some people who are genderist DO fear homosexuals, but from what i’ve seen, it more often stems from disgust or simple tribalism- and in any case, to blanket it like that under “fear” seems lazy and a knee-jerk insult. i can’t say it any clearer than that.
i’ll concede that it’s become common use, but i don’t have to like it.
Phobia is simply an aversion… or strong negative reaction. It can as easily be hatred as fear. Do keep in mind its use in chemistry… and the fact that molecules don’t “fear” each other… yes?
So it turns out one doesn’t have to know something to write about it…
I’ve met quite a few people that truly fear anything different, including homosexual tendencies. One of them literally went into a fit of shaking, white-knuckled, cold sweat drench before they passed out because they shook hands with a cross dresser. A very attractive cross dresser, who happened to be gay. ( I’ve met quite a few straight ones and damn they look good…) If that isn’t a phobia, a very physical manifestion of an uncontrollable, unreasonable fear, then I don’t know what is.
Honestly, I don’t get why it bothers people so much.
But then I suppose maybe they’re just oversensitive… or maybe they’ve never been bullied by irrelevant prats for long enough that this sort of thing became the status quo. Who knows?
If one dude wants to hate on another, who cares what his reason is or whether it adds up or whatever? Hating is gonna happen either way… and making some hate more special than others is just an extra slap in the face to those of us who are “acceptable targets” either way.
I’d say one doesn’t and shouldn’t have to accept the social perpetuation of hate. Therefore I understand smaller’s critique. Nevertheless: Frigg is a biased being and quite well characterized as such.
Hate is as natural a thing as love is… which, far from being any sort of ethical declaration of righteousness, should at least point out that it is far too prevalent and automatic to simply be rid of. For all the distaste people find in being subjected to it, they are unanimously far to prone to resort to it themselves.
The fact is that hate serves purposes well beyond any peurile human concern… and society’s campaign against it is much like Don Quixote versus the windmills: pointless, ridiculous, futile and an utter waste of effort. You might as well try to empty the ocean with a teaspoon.
… *Looks further down the page*
I like that metaphor a bit too much.
No homo has been around since at -least- the early ’90s here in NYC. I mean, honestly guys, half of Riley’s characterization comes from the notion that the kid just won’t stop imitating mainstream big media rappers– and with the move to Woodcrest, the media is really all the exposure to “the streets” he has. So if you hear him say something you can be sure it’s borderline outdated by mixtape circle standards. That’s literally half the joke right there.
No homo.
I thought it was more of a direct STFU to the distressing number of delusional lesbo-HoYay! freaks in the comments section.
Shippers follow no rhyme or reason. Frigg saying “No Homo” is just further proof of their OTP.
God I hate even knowing those terms. I feel soiled.
She says “no homo,” yet her name is Frigg. Though, I suppose that could simply be simply auto, rather than homo. Hmm. Actually, really similar to Han Solo, come to think of it. Just follow the near-rhyme, you’ll get it too.
Or the name of a Norse Goddess. Admittedly a goddess of marriage, childbirth, love and domestic arts…
Actually, nope, I won’t get it.
Drop one g and you have a word meaning a certain use of fingers in a womanly spot.
Han(d) solo.
I would apologize for my dirty mind, but I’m not sure I’d mean it.
Damn, man.
That was downright esoteric.
esoteric? really? You’ve never heard the song “Frigging in the Rigging”?
I fucking love Frigg. “No homo” was amazing.
Who’s doing all the writing of this webcomic? Fuck me if it’s not the best I’ve seen.
Campbell, Henderson, and Kahn. As noted on the bottom right of the comic. (Likely writing duties are divided between Campbell and Kahn–Henderson’s bio seems to be exclusively about drawing.)
Pretty much, yeah.
Erica contributes to the worldbuild and story, too. Especially when T and I cannot come to an agreement on something (a rather constant phenomenon).
I’m glad Frigg finally cleaned up that blood around her mouth.
Also it looks like Bandit plays the part of the lovable talking mascot character as found in many other webcomics.
Ha! The poor win again!
i hope frigg likes drinking “SPIRITS”.
Haha. :P
Niiiiiice.
The last two panels kind of sums up the party nicely. Syr’s a mother hen, Friggs hell on two legs, Bandit goes with said trouble, Byron sets someone up for the one liner, and Gravedust is deadpan humor (pun intended) no homo.
Shots, the glue that holds the party together…sort of.
I’m sure I’ve said it before, others have said it, gonna say it again anyway.
This webcomic is AWESOME.
(I don’t get the No Homo reference at all. I mean, I comprehend what the phrase probably *means* but I have no clue where it might come from. Boondocks? As in Boondock Saints??)
The phrase comes from “The Boondocks” a comic-based TV series by Aaron McGruder that airs on Adult swim. I’d explain the phrase, but then that would save you the awesome of seeing the series for yourself.
As I said above, it does not originate there. It’s a fairly new, but still common thing said by ignorant young fucks in general.
“Ignorant young fucks”
Gold Star.
Cheers,
Cote
Ah, thank you for that. I wasn’t sure most of the commenters here were realizing it’s supposed to be Frigg being offensive, not Frigg being funny and quotable.
I don’t see a conflict between offensive and funny/quotable, but even so I didn’t see it as “Frigg being offensive” so much as “Frigg saying something stupid”. Because nowadays, when we live in an enlightened society, homophobia is seen as stupid/evil, and made fun of by having not-so-smart characters display such attitudes. Or the character is made fun of by having them display such an obviously stupid attitude. I guess it cuts both ways, and neither of those ways is supposed to cut the Enlightened Reader.
But of course the inverse of that is when only parts of society see homophobia as stupid/evil, the rest of society crows over it as perfectly acceptable (and funny!) things to say. Try explaining some time to a group of otherwise intelligent, non-racist, less-sexist-than-most, who-say-they-support-teh-gays nerds just why hearing them say “That’s so gay,” is offensive.
And so it’s important to at least mention that, no, that would not be an acceptable thing for rational, good people to say. Because otherwise the stupid young fucks will perpetuate it without a second thought. If you at least say something, maybe they’ll still perpetuate it, but they might grow out of it sooner.
I think this comic addresses it well.
I hopethat worked…
ohman. That was excellent. Thanks!
can we bring this shame globe of offensive offensiveness around full circle and also point out that midget isn’t cool to say anymore either please I need to check it off my enlightened person bingo card thanks
Your statement likes similar statements… intimately.
(p.s. Language rots like everything else. Trying to hold back the rot is like trying to empty the oceans with a teaspoon.)
It’s just something ‘street’ people say. Cause ya know it’s not masculine to express affection so when you are being nice or appreciative of one of your friends you throw that out. It’s like a disclaimer. It adds a “not in that way” to an “I like you”
90’s American street slang that has been popularized by modern media (including rap songs and a couple of television shows, not just the one cartoon) for the win. :)
I like how Frigg’s first priority is her weapon and her second is drinking… Getting clothed (or at least armored because we know bandit has that in her little bag of goodies) before going to a public bar seems to be a distant third.
Hey man, there’s two things everyone wants went the get out of prison, the first is a drink. She’s just being efficient.
The other is a mace?
Ahhh Frigg, you just keep doin what you’re doin.
GD 9000: Byron, will I ever dream?
Byron: I don’t know GD, I don’t know…
I absolutely love Syr’s sadfaces in this comic.
Have you noticed how Bandit seems to introduce herself with her full name the exact same way as before? Do you think she’s trying to Robin Hood herself? Visions of fame perhaps?
To be fair, using your full name is often the way you introduce yourself.
Is…is Frigg going to put clothes on? Or is that her new tavern-wear?
She’s just cutting to the chase.
No point in putting clothes on when the tequila is just going to make them fall off again.
I heard that song for the first time this afternoon!
So your comment made my day, really.