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New Comics Every M/W/F - Written by T Campbell & Phil Kahn - Illustrated by John & Jason Waltrip

Moustaches to moustaches, dust to dust.

Chapter 43 – Page 14

on July 20, 2016
Chapter: Chapter 43
└ Tags: JJ Berten, Shanna
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Discussion (194) ¬

  1. Alice Macher
    Alice Macher
    July 20, 2016, 12:14 am | # | Reply

    Your move, Carol. o__o

    • Brasca1
      Brasca1
      July 20, 2016, 12:52 am | # | Reply

      She’s out an assassin, but Shanna isn’t all that ahead in this game. With Berten dead they don’t have anyone that can confess to working for Hurricane. So it’s still their accusation against a very wealthy corporation. Of course if Carol panics that could work to Shanna’s advantage.

      • Reltzik
        Reltzik
        July 20, 2016, 3:58 am | # | Reply

        There will be a series of phone calls between JJ and Carol’s direct line, and the police WILL be following up on that, with at least two of their number at least dead. JJ… wasn’t likely to add any more testimony. I’m just a bit disappointed that the gang didn’t tease anything more evidentiary out of him on camera.

        • brasca1
          brasca1
          July 20, 2016, 8:40 am | # | Reply

          The police could trace the calls provided he left his phone unlocked when he died. If not that’s likely to another tech company’s civil rights dispute. Even if he did it’s not enough to make a case although it could definitely bring unwanted attention. There’s also the added problem that Shanna just killed a man albeit in self defense which means she’ll either have to stay and answer questions making it possible for another assassin to locate her or go on the run which could get her in trouble with the police for fleeing a crime scene.

          • tlhonmey
            tlhonmey
            July 20, 2016, 1:23 pm | # | Reply

            The calls can be traced regardless of whether the phone was unlocked or not. Call history is recorded in the phone company’s billing records. It’s just the personal stuff stored on the phone that can be hard to get at if it’s locked.

          • Dparker
            Dparker
            July 20, 2016, 9:43 pm | # | Reply

            Shanna will eventually have to justify it, but given the evidence for other murders, including being found at a crime scene after killing (?) several cops, I expect they’d show some clemency. While vigilantism is illegal for good reason there’s no way to mistake his intentions, even if they can’t yet prove to the authorities a respected corporation is pursuing them. Is there a technical term for this scenario, like proactive self defense?

            • Christopher
              Christopher
              July 21, 2016, 12:40 am | # | Reply

              I am not a legal scholar, but if somebody has just killed three other people, two immediately before the present, and is in the process of raising a gun at you after announcing on camera their intention to gun you down in the street, I think the technical term is just “self defense”.

              • Reltzik
                Reltzik
                July 21, 2016, 2:47 pm | # | Reply

                Also, he’s on recording as having just issued credible threats to hunt down and murder the entire sepia crowd, gunning them down in the streets, and HAS a track record of tracking them down even when they go off the grid.

                • Aloriena
                  Aloriena
                  July 22, 2016, 4:37 am | # | Reply

                  They were staying at one of the sepia gangs houses. Not too off grid and the hacker was using the internet so the range of IP addresses would have shown activity giving away their location.

              • Tsapki
                Tsapki
                July 22, 2016, 5:31 am | # | Reply

                To my understanding, lethal self defense is only legal when it applies to an immediate deadly threat to your person (not because someone threatened you and you then decided to shot them when their back was turned for example) or if the person is posing a threat to you in your home. So there might be some standing for it.

                • Just_IDD
                  Just_IDD
                  July 26, 2016, 1:46 pm | # | Reply

                  There is a gun in his hand after killing two cops. That is a valid and credible threat and can be used as self defense. The Dead Guy doesn’t get a vote on if he was or was not about to drop it.

            • Speedy
              Speedy
              March 6, 2019, 9:09 pm | # | Reply

              Public service homicide? (Unofficial term, of course)

          • AlexHalstead
            AlexHalstead
            November 10, 2016, 11:12 am | # | Reply

            brasca1: The issue is that the police tried to CRACK into the phone without calling for and wait for the company to unlock it, so the phone’s security feature kicked in and scrambled the data in it. The company will unlock IF the police/FBI provide a warrant. They merely refuse to unlock on anyone’s say so to protect privacy rights in general.

        • SteelRaven
          SteelRaven
          July 21, 2016, 1:16 am | # | Reply

          Lucky shot or the gun bucked as she aimed for the center mass. Ether way, she hit him right in the Mustache.

          • Weremensh
            Weremensh
            July 21, 2016, 11:03 pm | # | Reply

            She wasn’t aiming at the center of mass. Remember his view from the last strip of both iron sites lined up both vertically and horizontally; that only happens when she’s aiming at his nose.

          • Nyzer
            Nyzer
            June 9, 2018, 10:12 pm | # | Reply

            A nice late reply to this, but Shanna in Fans! was shown to have considerable talent for marksmanship, which was one of the traits that allowed her to elevate to amazing badassery by the midway point.

  2. Byzantine
    Byzantine
    July 20, 2016, 12:17 am | # | Reply

    Well, can’t say he didn’t deserve it.

    • PSadlon
      PSadlon
      July 20, 2016, 12:53 am | # | Reply

      Couldn’t have happened to a nicer person

      • PSadlon
        PSadlon
        July 20, 2016, 12:56 am | # | Reply

        That was sarcasm in case anyone missed it.

        • Messenger
          Messenger
          July 20, 2016, 2:34 am | # | Reply

          I approve of your sarcasm.

          • MasterDiver
            MasterDiver
            July 20, 2016, 7:22 am | # | Reply

            Mischief managed.

        • Freemage
          Freemage
          July 20, 2016, 5:48 pm | # | Reply

          Actually, it’d be more accurate to say it probably wouldn’t have happened to a nicer person….

        • Jat
          Jat
          July 21, 2016, 3:28 pm | # | Reply

          So you’re saying it COULD have happened to a nicer person?

          • PoJoeRic
            PoJoeRic
            July 21, 2016, 11:06 pm | # | Reply

            Let’s not get into the Probability vs Karma debate here!

  3. James K
    James K
    July 20, 2016, 12:17 am | # | Reply

    Wow, that’s a hell of a way to frame a page.

    • Bruceski
      Bruceski
      July 20, 2016, 1:47 am | # | Reply

      I sat there for a minute waiting for it to finish loading.

      • Sahara
        Sahara
        July 20, 2016, 2:20 am | # | Reply

        Me too!

        • Standhaft Garithos
          Standhaft Garithos
          July 20, 2016, 2:42 am | # | Reply

          This happened to me as well but only for about 5 seconds.

          • fishamaphone
            fishamaphone
            July 20, 2016, 3:44 am | # | Reply

            My browser actually did freeze and for a good 30 seconds I couldn’t scroll down. I loaded the comic on my phone before Chrome caught up with the program. I *really* need a new computer.

          • BW
            BW
            July 20, 2016, 7:42 am | # | Reply

            Same here.

      • Jean-Luc
        Jean-Luc
        July 20, 2016, 9:44 am | # | Reply

        +1

        • Chris
          Chris
          July 20, 2016, 12:11 pm | # | Reply

          +2

          Amazing framing!

  4. JR
    JR
    July 20, 2016, 12:23 am | # | Reply

    Good.
    I thought for sure she was going to hesitate. I thought for certain she was going to think “I can’t do this. I’m not a murderer. I know how dangerous he is but I can’t take his–” and get a bullet in her heart.

    • The Gorram Batguy
      The Gorram Batguy
      July 20, 2016, 10:47 am | # | Reply

      Indeed.
      Many people, fictional and real, seem not to appreciate that killing for self-defense, even against an enemy which is only most likely an immediate threat, is legitimate and not “murder”. Shanna was in mortal danger there, once things got to that point, and did the right thing by pulling the trigger .
      Not dissimilarly, letting the mass-murdering bad guy live to mass-murder again because “killing is not what the good guys do” works well enough for (some) fictional characters, but in the real world, it’s morally imbecilic and dangerous to act like that; the blood of every future victim is partially on the hero’s hards.

      • Deoxy
        Deoxy
        July 20, 2016, 3:02 pm | # | Reply

        I give you The Joker. Every time Batman doesn’t kill him, he gets out and kills more people.

        In ANY sane world, that guy would be dead. SOMEBODY would have offed him, even one of the guards or something.

        • Iron Hare
          Iron Hare
          July 20, 2016, 11:54 pm | # | Reply

          I concur with that statement but there are some opponents that aren’t killing people of their own free will. There is always a chance a person can be redeemed but that I will agree is unfortunately unlikely.

          • Deoxy
            Deoxy
            July 21, 2016, 10:45 am | # | Reply

            “there are some opponents that aren’t killing people of their own free will.”

            Out here in the real world, that is an unfortunate situation… where the lowest available body count is still usually to kill that person. Body count: 1 The only way to get lower than that is to stop them without killing them AND without them killing anyone else. The whole reason we’re even having this discussion is because of how unlikely success at that is – if such person was already subdued and in custody, then sure, no reason to just off them on the spot.

            “There is always a chance a person can be redeemed”

            Sure… but they’ll kill OTHER people in the mean time. What makes the killer more valuable than the killed? THAT is the crazy part of the whole thing.

            “At long last, we have redeemed the Joker. He won’t kill anyone, and we didn’t have to kill him! See, I was right!”
            “That’s great… I’m sure it helps the families of the 398 people he killed in the mean time feel SO MUCH BETTER.”
            “Well… yeah, but those 398 didn’t have names in this comic, so they aren’t really important.”

            That’s what it boils down to – so-called “heroes” in mainstream comics just don’t want blood on their OWN hands, but hey, the bulk of the nobodies the villains kill are created just to be killed by them, so they don’t really matter anyway…

            Yeah, the real world doesn’t work like that.

            • SotiCoto
              SotiCoto
              May 23, 2017, 10:53 am | # | Reply

              How fussed people are about how many people he killed baffles me. So opposed to death on principle… but why? Death is the end of pain, and not among the actually cruel things he has done.

        • SteelRaven
          SteelRaven
          July 21, 2016, 1:08 am | # | Reply

          That has more to do with the fact major comics love recurring villains. Marvel has actually killed the Green Goblin a couple of times but keep bringing them back because they love using Norman Osborn as a foil for Peter Parker. Think the Red Skull has now came back from hell more times than the Phoenix (the cosmic cub is such bullshit) Why I rather read comics like the Guilded Age, Campbell and Kahn are not regurgitating a story that’s been replayed over 77 years (Batman will always fight the Joker because Batman has always fought the Joker) People will die in Guilded Age, lets see who’s next!

          • Christopher
            Christopher
            July 21, 2016, 2:44 pm | # | Reply

            Imagine how shocked Shanna and her crew will feel when JJ casually respawns, Bandit-style.

            • Speedy
              Speedy
              March 6, 2019, 9:20 pm | # | Reply

              Is this the real life,
              Or is it MMORPG…

  5. Dave
    Dave
    July 20, 2016, 12:25 am | # | Reply

    Headshots: Always a Crit, Every Time.

    THEY’RE STILL IN A GAME, FOLKS!

    • Taxil Necrobane
      Taxil Necrobane
      July 20, 2016, 12:32 am | # | Reply

      But you need to double tap to make sure you know.

      • Sir Galahad the Chaste
        Sir Galahad the Chaste
        July 20, 2016, 10:28 am | # | Reply

        Headshots are a little silly. I would’ve preferred Shanna to have been REALLY practical and just put 3 or 4 in his chest, but it’s a fairly minor gripe. This was more dramatic, and I really like her lying in wait for JJ in the first place.

        • Kobold
          Kobold
          July 20, 2016, 11:48 am | # | Reply

          Headshots are the most practical if you have the aim for it. You never know whether your target is wearing armor.

          • Anvildude
            Anvildude
            July 20, 2016, 12:29 pm | # | Reply

            Well, unless they’re shirtless.

            • Jack Vermicelli
              Jack Vermicelli
              July 20, 2016, 5:34 pm | # | Reply

              Invisible armor?
              Torso-patterned armor?

          • Sir Galahad the Chaste
            Sir Galahad the Chaste
            July 21, 2016, 9:54 am | # | Reply

            In fiction, sure. Almost no real people trained in firearms would shoot anywhere but center mass. Cops routinely miss suspects entirely at close distances, adrenaline etc. I doubt Shanna has the level of expertise for that. And yeah, I think she knows he’s not wearing armor.

          • Swagner
            Swagner
            July 23, 2016, 5:02 am | # | Reply

            “2 to the chest, face gets the rest” is the rule of thumb here, I think

        • tlhonmey
          tlhonmey
          July 20, 2016, 1:28 pm | # | Reply

          Add the detail that he’s obviously already taken a few hits to the chest and is still going. Adding one more might have dropped him, or might have just given him enough time for a shot of his own. Since she had time to aim a headshot makes the most sense.

          • Aloriena
            Aloriena
            July 22, 2016, 4:52 am | # | Reply

            Headshot are more likely to miss and hit some innocent bystanders. The center of mass is actually what professionals aim for. A headshot is many times the mark of ether an amateur or a personal killing. Also there have been extreme cases of the headshot not being fatal due to the bullet hitting at an angle or the brain not being fatally damaged due to mitigating factors. People have literally survived with half a brain after being shot in the head.

            Now given that there seems to be enough splatter for this to be an instantly fatal shooting.

    • Jean-Luc
      Jean-Luc
      July 20, 2016, 12:39 am | # | Reply

      To be fair headshots are pretty critty irl too.

      • Kennerly
        Kennerly
        July 20, 2016, 1:32 am | # | Reply

        Merely a headshot wouldn’t have brought him down. She shot his mustache off, the source of his power.

        • The Gorram Batguy
          The Gorram Batguy
          July 20, 2016, 10:51 am | # | Reply

          Yes. You all thought that was a jet of blood in the last frame, from shooting JJ in the forehead. Shanna really shot his mustache right between the handlebars, and that’s actually JJ’s liberated mustache hairs blowing away in the wind. As his glorious lip-tickler dies, so too must its host.
          JJ’s a veritable post-modern mirror-alignment Samson.

        • Chris
          Chris
          July 20, 2016, 12:12 pm | # | Reply

          It’s just a headshot wound!

    • LockeZ
      LockeZ
      July 20, 2016, 2:03 am | # | Reply

      Meh, she has no experience points. That attack would like 30, maybe 40 HP of damage tops.

      • KarmaTheAlligator
        KarmaTheAlligator
        July 20, 2016, 2:32 am | # | Reply

        Doesn’t matter, he had like 1 or 2 HP left anyway.

        • TxGator
          TxGator
          July 20, 2016, 9:17 am | # | Reply

          And she was able to add sneak attack damage. ;-)

        • LockeZ
          LockeZ
          July 20, 2016, 1:49 pm | # | Reply

          Ban Shanna for killstealing

      • Reltzik
        Reltzik
        July 20, 2016, 4:00 am | # | Reply

        Given that people IRL don’t have hit points, losing 40 of them is deadly.

        • Insaneoodlyguy
          Insaneoodlyguy
          July 20, 2016, 2:04 pm | # | Reply

          Sure they do! The math works if you remember the bleed debuff, which people always forget. It’s a really complex mechanic.

    • Keith the verbose buzzkill
      Keith the verbose buzzkill
      July 21, 2016, 7:51 am | # | Reply

      TL:DR no, no they are not always critical or fatal. Sorry. Having treated a few gunshots over the years including headshots to the face. Uh, usually yes but surprisingly not always. Just like sometime the entrance would doesn’t look like a hole, it looks like an avulsion and the bullets did NOT leave the body. And yes everybody does have HP, what gets complicated is the vitality stat and willpower stat.

  6. Vad
    Vad
    July 20, 2016, 12:30 am | # | Reply

    Hats off to ya Shanna.

    • Dataweaver
      Dataweaver
      July 20, 2016, 2:07 am | # | Reply

      But, he wasn’t wearing a hat…

      • Zalocin
        Zalocin
        July 20, 2016, 5:19 am | # | Reply

        an he never will

      • The Gorram Batguy
        The Gorram Batguy
        July 20, 2016, 10:53 am | # | Reply

        Even without a proper hat, his crown is well and truly broken.
        Maybe one or more of his initials stands for Jack, and he was named after a hill-tumbling ancestor.

  7. Taxil Necrobane
    Taxil Necrobane
    July 20, 2016, 12:31 am | # | Reply

    Oh! Well that ends JJ rather soundly. But somehow I got the sinking feeling it still didn’t kill him. Granted it’ll more than obvious shannon dropped him, but unless we see JJ’s dead body in the next page, he might still live. He’ll no longer be a threat, but prove to be a living witness to Shannon’s over all quest.

    • GreenArcher
      GreenArcher
      July 20, 2016, 12:49 am | # | Reply

      Well, half his brain is out of the skullbox, I would be very surprised to see him coming back… Also the scene is epically framed.

      • PSadlon
        PSadlon
        July 20, 2016, 12:55 am | # | Reply

        Quite

      • TxGator
        TxGator
        July 20, 2016, 9:19 am | # | Reply

        Yeah I think they did an excellent job with the silhouette.

    • biggmac
      biggmac
      July 20, 2016, 1:45 am | # | Reply

      Cut off the head. Always cut off the head.
      Then nuke it from space. It’s the only way to be sure.

    • Insaneoodlyguy
      Insaneoodlyguy
      July 20, 2016, 2:06 pm | # | Reply

      If he’s still alive, after metal went through one end of his skull and out the other he’s severely brain-damaged. His ability to be a threat to anybody directly is over.

  8. Jean-Luc
    Jean-Luc
    July 20, 2016, 12:33 am | # | Reply

    Shanna executed this with the cold, ruthless efficiency of a gamer.

    • Reltzik
      Reltzik
      July 20, 2016, 4:02 am | # | Reply

      Cue teabagging in 3… 2…

      • Tassit
        Tassit
        July 20, 2016, 6:48 am | # | Reply

        I would laugh so hard.

      • The Batty Bat
        The Batty Bat
        July 27, 2016, 8:25 am | # | Reply

        In Shanna’s case, it wouldn’t be tea-bagging.
        But it would be clam-slapping.

      • Speedy
        Speedy
        March 6, 2019, 9:55 pm | # | Reply

        “Guys? Shanna. I think it’s over. I blew the back of his skull off, but I’m not entirely sure he’s dead.”

        “Shanna! It’s Xan. This is important! Do you feel an irresistible urge to repeatedly squat over his face?”

        “OMG! Yes!”

        “It’s over, guys… Shanna, that means he’s well and truly dead. Please record yourself squatting over his face, for my YouTube channel. It’ll get millions of hits, before they take it down… Wait! Is his moustache still intact?”

        “Yes? … I shot him right between the eyes.”

        “Tens of millions…”

  9. Idris
    Idris
    July 20, 2016, 12:55 am | # | Reply

    Glad to see Guilded Shanna retains her predecessor’s cold blooded practicality.

  10. Tyr Boh
    Tyr Boh
    July 20, 2016, 12:55 am | # | Reply

    Hats off Shanna.

  11. Ganurath
    Ganurath
    July 20, 2016, 1:07 am | # | Reply

    For JJ, it had been professional. Just good business in a capitalist’s world.

    Unfortunately for him, Shanna is a Marx man.

    • insomniac
      insomniac
      July 20, 2016, 1:13 am | # | Reply

      That was terrible.

      Well played.

    • The Gorram Batguy
      The Gorram Batguy
      July 20, 2016, 10:55 am | # | Reply

      Cringing and clapping can coexist. I know that now.

    • Kobold
      Kobold
      July 20, 2016, 11:49 am | # | Reply

      Brilliant

    • Blatherskite
      Blatherskite
      July 20, 2016, 10:33 pm | # | Reply

      Hey now, ruthlessly eliminating the competition is the very ideal of capitalism.

    • Lirazel
      Lirazel
      July 20, 2016, 11:08 pm | # | Reply

      And she’s Lenin in!

    • Edward
      Edward
      July 20, 2016, 11:46 pm | # | Reply

      I think I’ll just Trotsky off stage after that one.

      • Keith the verbose buzzkill
        Keith the verbose buzzkill
        July 21, 2016, 7:54 am | # | Reply

        I’ll have to Lenin on you, laughing to hard. At least he didn’t make a hatchet job of the joke.

        • HandwashBigpan
          HandwashBigpan
          July 21, 2016, 10:42 pm | # | Reply

          JJ sure was Russian for his gun

    • Just_IDD
      Just_IDD
      July 26, 2016, 3:27 pm | # | Reply

      JJ has been Fired.
      He was special, he received a red slip instead of a pink one.
      Later they gave him a black toe tag to be remembered by.

    • Speedy
      Speedy
      March 6, 2019, 10:26 pm | # | Reply

      In Soviet Russia, reporter shoot you!

      Wait… That’s not right…

  12. biggmac
    biggmac
    July 20, 2016, 1:52 am | # | Reply

    And that, students, is how you perform a front-to-back “tunnel” lobotomy.

    • Speedy
      Speedy
      March 6, 2019, 10:30 pm | # | Reply

      I’d rather have a tunnel in front of me…

  13. Calen
    Calen
    July 20, 2016, 2:18 am | # | Reply

    I haven’t been this relieved to see a long running antagonist disposed of in… hell, years? Awesome framing too. Brilliantly done.

  14. Chaltab
    Chaltab
    July 20, 2016, 2:18 am | # | Reply

    So basically Shanna kited Bertrand through the city guards to soften him up and then slipped in for the final blow so she would get all the XP.

  15. Inlaa
    Inlaa
    July 20, 2016, 2:20 am | # | Reply

    Excuse me, madame, but you appear to have dropped your ha– GOOD LORD, IS THAT A CORPSE?

    • Speedy
      Speedy
      March 6, 2019, 10:40 pm | # | Reply

      “Yeah. I dropped him, too.” *blows across end of barrel* (Dang smokeless powder!)

  16. Messenger
    Messenger
    July 20, 2016, 2:36 am | # | Reply

    Panel 1. The fear JJ shows, after hurting Xan, killing Kaye, he made all those threats, he blew his cool, and he gunned down those cops, he walked out while still making more promises of violence…

    Priceless. :-)

    • CorrTerek
      CorrTerek
      July 20, 2016, 7:12 am | # | Reply

      Yep. JJ’s expressions as everything falls apart around him have been great.

  17. Lurker
    Lurker
    July 20, 2016, 3:03 am | # | Reply

    God created all men, but Sam Colt made them equal.

    I appreciate that Shanna didn’t have any parting words before she killed JJ like a dog in the street. A monologue or hesitation would have been too good for him. Cool, calm, collected. “What did you feel when you shot him?” “Recoil.”

    This was a good ending for this character. Presentation and framing were on point. Bravo.

    • Stabbers N' Shankers
      Stabbers N' Shankers
      July 20, 2016, 10:58 am | # | Reply

      It also would have given him time, which from what we’ve seen of him, would have been a bad idea.

    • Blatherskite
      Blatherskite
      July 20, 2016, 10:37 pm | # | Reply

      “If a man has you entirely at his mercy, then hope like hell that man is an evil man. Because the evil like power over people and they want to see you in fear. They want you to know you’re going to die. So they’ll talk. They’ll gloat. They’ll watch you squirm. They’ll put off the moment of murder like another man will put off a good cigar.

      “So hope like hell your captor is an evil man. A good man will kill you with hardly a word.”

    • Just_IDD
      Just_IDD
      July 26, 2016, 3:36 pm | # | Reply

      Smith and Wesson, the first point and click interface.

  18. Iarei
    Iarei
    July 20, 2016, 3:51 am | # | Reply

    Took me a moment to register what bugged me about that first panel. . . and then it registered. That is just… TERRIBLE posture for using a handgun. He’s raising it, along with his entire arm, at the shoulder like he’s threatening her with a sword or a magic wand. He can’t even use his sights like that, and he could hip-fire in half the time. Shanna’s hand position last page was pretty spot on though.

    Doesn’t matter, the page is solid. That only bugs me because I’m me.

    • Jean-Luc
      Jean-Luc
      July 20, 2016, 3:56 am | # | Reply

      He has multiple bullet wounds and is in a lot of pain. He’s actually struggling to lift his arm.

      • Kamino Neko
        Kamino Neko
        July 20, 2016, 6:03 am | # | Reply

        One of those wounds being in, or near, that shoulder. So, yeah, that arm was not going to be responding properly.

        • Aloriena
          Aloriena
          July 22, 2016, 4:59 am | # | Reply

          I’m actually amazed that he could lift it at all.

    • Chasey
      Chasey
      July 20, 2016, 5:25 am | # | Reply

      The Captain’s right; he looks so panicked because he knows his arm isn’t working the way he wants it to, or as quickly. It was his only chance, since that hand was the one the gun was in.

      • Speedy
        Speedy
        March 6, 2019, 11:11 pm | # | Reply

        His only chance was to immediately drop his gun.

        Too bad that thought never crossed his mind.

        The last thought that crossed his mind, as the bullet was crossing it, was, “Dammit! I wanted them to pry my gun from my cold, dead hand!”

    • Insaneoodlyguy
      Insaneoodlyguy
      July 20, 2016, 2:09 pm | # | Reply

      See the way he’s holidng his coat? That’s up against a wound that seems to be larger then the others, probably because it’s a more direct hit. The other wounds hurt but this one is bad, and it’s in a spot that’s compromised his physical ability.

    • Ved
      Ved
      July 20, 2016, 5:49 pm | # | Reply

      He’s being ambushed by Shanna and is *reacting* to her. So yes, his posture is going to be a wreck anyway.
      To steal terms from German longsword, he’s in the nacht.

  19. Smallfoot
    Smallfoot
    July 20, 2016, 4:01 am | # | Reply

    Just when JJ thought that bald spot couldn’t get any more obvious…

    • Speedy
      Speedy
      March 6, 2019, 11:27 pm | # | Reply

      If you’re balding in the front, you’re a thinker.
      If you’re balding in the back, you’re a lover.
      If you’re balding in the front and the back, you just think you’re a lover.

      If you’re balding in the front and have a gaping hole in the back, you should’ve spent a lot more time thinking about being a lover. (and a lot less time being a hater)

  20. Hangman
    Hangman
    July 20, 2016, 4:07 am | # | Reply

    I wonder… we don’t see a muzzle flash from Shanna’s pistol – could someone else offpanel have shot him before Shanna could pull the trigger?

    • Ganurath
      Ganurath
      July 20, 2016, 4:11 am | # | Reply

      *looks at the white background of the last panel*

      What color do you think the muzzle flash ought to be?

    • Kamino Neko
      Kamino Neko
      July 20, 2016, 6:06 am | # | Reply

      Tom Doniphon is the hero of the rest of the story.

    • Frigg_Fanboi
      Frigg_Fanboi
      July 20, 2016, 7:41 am | # | Reply

      So you’re expecting a gnoll on the grassy knoll?

    • Speedy
      Speedy
      March 7, 2019, 12:09 am | # | Reply

      Good point.
      The slide on her gun is all the way forward, so either it’s already completed its cycle, or her gun wasn’t fired.
      The shell casing could be hidden by her (or her hat’s) silhouette, or one was never ejected.
      Her aim seems to be dead on, so either she recovered from the recoil remarkably fast, or there was no recoil. Or, the gun is still waving about, but just looks like it’s on target, at this instant.

      I think the artist was trying to convince us both that she did and that she didn’t fire the kill shot.

  21. Messenger
    Messenger
    July 20, 2016, 4:20 am | # | Reply

    I just realized:

    http://guildedage.net/comic/chapter-43-page-12/
    “When I get out of here, I’m going to find you all. And gun you down in the God damned street.”

    JJ just got gunned down on the street.

    Well, F***. If that isn’t brilliant writing, I don’t know what is.

  22. Fo Ren G
    Fo Ren G
    July 20, 2016, 4:32 am | # | Reply

    Why is the hat off?! He couldn’t have shot it off, then it must be that someone threw it at her from above.

    • Aloriena
      Aloriena
      July 22, 2016, 5:02 am | # | Reply

      Recoil or wind. There would have been recoil from that shot and it would have traveled through her body.

  23. PumpkinCake
    PumpkinCake
    July 20, 2016, 4:35 am | # | Reply

    From what I know about gun laws, this should be open and close self-defense. He was even lifting his gun to try to shoot her and she only fired one shot to stop him.

    • BarGamer
      BarGamer
      July 20, 2016, 4:50 am | # | Reply

      The media will still notch up another one to “OMGERD, VIDEO GAMES MAKE YOU VIOLENT!!1” but you know, who still watches the TV anymore?

      • Stabbers N' Shankers
        Stabbers N' Shankers
        July 20, 2016, 11:00 am | # | Reply

        Somewhat ironic, no? Given that Shanna IS the embodiment of that media train of thought.

    • Ved
      Ved
      July 20, 2016, 5:55 pm | # | Reply

      I’d debate the open-and-shut part.
      Shanna does have reasonable evidence of JJ’s intent on record, but she’s still the one ambushing him. Presumably, she could have avoided confrontation altogether after the police were involved.

      • Deoxy
        Deoxy
        July 21, 2016, 10:47 am | # | Reply

        Except for the part where he KILLED the police…

        • Ved
          Ved
          July 21, 2016, 4:21 pm | # | Reply

          Which makes him guilty of murder. That’s quite separate from Shanna’s doings.

    • Reltzik
      Reltzik
      July 21, 2016, 6:36 pm | # | Reply

      In theory, yes. In practice, self defense is a positive defense — that is, one the prosecution establishes in court that you did kill the person, the burden of proof is on you to prove that the killing was done in self defense. That means that it’s not enough that the guy was about to kill you. You need to be able to prove that in court.

      … or, you know, talk openly to the police and convince them so you don’t get prosecuted in the first place.

      • Aloriena
        Aloriena
        July 22, 2016, 5:09 am | # | Reply

        You have to prove a threat to your life and a reasonable fear that the person was going to carry out that threat. He had a gun in his hand (which ballistics will prove shot the officers in the home) they have video of him killing another that they witnessed live via the internet and they have video of him threatening to hunt them down and kill them.

  24. random whatever
    random whatever
    July 20, 2016, 5:07 am | # | Reply

    One o y’all mentioned if Shanna just walked away here would be one bullet in jj that didn’t match the cop’s guns. Know what? There is only an exit wound. They’ll never find that spent bullet. If she picks up her brass, she is able to walk away. No evidence. This is my fave web comic.

    • CorrTerek
      CorrTerek
      July 20, 2016, 8:02 am | # | Reply

      They’ll still know there was an extra shooter, and they’ll have the laptop and other evidence from the room.

      They may not be particularly inclined to follow up on it, but they’ll definitely have evidence.

    • Nessus
      Nessus
      July 20, 2016, 7:30 pm | # | Reply

      It’s possible they could find the bullet, even though it’d be a ways away. That sort of thing actually does happen all the time in shooting investigations (the bullet from a shooting is a block away in a car or a cinder block or something, but still gets found, ’cause the cops know what cone of area to search in). More depends on what kind of ammunition she’s using, maybe.

      But more to the point, since they’ve already sent the videos to the police, the gamer group’s identities are already known to the cops, and the only reason they were targeted was because of Shauna, so she’s known as well. IMO this wasn’t just about trapping JJ and ending the threat to their lives (though that is the most immediate motivation), this was also about going public with the hurricane investigation. Shauna doesn’t want to fade away into the night, because this isn’t about keeping things secret, it’s about blowing the lid off. The cops are going to be on this like a spotlight now, and that’s a good thing for her.

      JJ was kinda screwing up all along. By pushing too hard, he provoked Sauna’s investigation to escalate three times, with the final one bringing law enforcement into the mix in a big way (this hit man killed several cops, so they’re gonna be SUPER interested in whoever hired him). Good Job, JJ, and by extension, Carol.

  25. random whatever
    random whatever
    July 20, 2016, 5:16 am | # | Reply

    Wait a minute is that a silhouette of blood and viscera streaming from the exit wound? Or is it just a silhouette of JJ’s pony tail? Any way nice shot.

    • deedes
      deedes
      July 20, 2016, 5:41 am | # | Reply

      I guess it has to be the pony tail, because the bloodspray would not be on that side of the head unless he was already falling backwards… which seems unplausible.

      • Deoxy
        Deoxy
        July 20, 2016, 3:07 pm | # | Reply

        The implication is that the bullet went all the way through – that’s blood spraying from the exit wound (along with the bullet).

      • Nathanyel
        Nathanyel
        July 21, 2016, 1:50 am | # | Reply

        It could be a grazing wound. You know the comics rule, they’re always only mostly dead.

    • Kamino Neko
      Kamino Neko
      July 20, 2016, 6:09 am | # | Reply

      His hair is tied lower on his head, and tight to it…it shouldn’t pop up that high. Even if the main mass is the hair, though, there’s plenty of obvious spray from the exit wound around it.

  26. drealm2459
    drealm2459
    July 20, 2016, 5:50 am | # | Reply

    OMG! They kited him w/ the cops.. and then she took down the weakened boss mob.

  27. chantelune
    chantelune
    July 20, 2016, 6:11 am | # | Reply

    Welp, guess Mustache-dude got outbrained by those kids, uh ?

    • Smallfoot
      Smallfoot
      July 20, 2016, 6:31 am | # | Reply

      Yes, his brains are definitely out, no kidding.

  28. minando
    minando
    July 20, 2016, 6:56 am | # | Reply

    The woman who shot Evil Mario.

    • Stabbers N' Shankers
      Stabbers N' Shankers
      July 20, 2016, 11:00 am | # | Reply

      So…Wario?

      • Psolo Ghoti
        Psolo Ghoti
        July 20, 2016, 5:37 pm | # | Reply

        Wario’s not a woman.

        ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

        • Stabbers N' Shankers
          Stabbers N' Shankers
          July 21, 2016, 9:33 am | # | Reply

          Wah wah. I meant Evil Mario = Wario. Could have phrased it better, yes. :P

          And now I can’t see JJ without hearing Wario’s voice.
          WAAA!

          • Psolo Ghoti
            Psolo Ghoti
            July 21, 2016, 10:28 am | # | Reply

            I hope the Lenny face gave away that I was joking. I mean, of course I know that Wario is a woman.

            ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

            • Stabbers N' Shankers
              Stabbers N' Shankers
              July 22, 2016, 11:19 am | # | Reply

              Heh, I knew you were trol…I mean joking. Besides, if Wario were female she’d be Princess Warina, right? ;)

  29. StoneRhino
    StoneRhino
    July 20, 2016, 7:37 am | # | Reply

    *slow claps* That wasn’t even his final form!

    • Messenger
      Messenger
      July 20, 2016, 8:40 am | # | Reply

      Actually… I think it was.
      There’s philosopher JJ, the form he takes when he meets his clients.
      There’s professional JJ, the form he takes while tracking his target and intimidating people involved.
      Then there’s personal JJ, wherein he shows how he feels when not only does his targets defy him but also cleverly entrap him.
      And now, lastly, we had bloodied JJ, indicating that he’s sustained enough damage to be finished off.

    • Jean-Luc
      Jean-Luc
      July 20, 2016, 2:23 pm | # | Reply

      I’m sorry Shanna but you corporate hitman is in another dark alley.

      • Jean-Luc
        Jean-Luc
        July 20, 2016, 2:24 pm | # | Reply

        Meant to reply to minando above ffs.

        • Rune
          Rune
          July 20, 2016, 9:56 pm | # | Reply

          This way, oh Captain, my Captain.

          I have your tea, Earl Grey, hot …waiting for you in your room.

  30. wolfpax
    wolfpax
    July 20, 2016, 7:54 am | # | Reply

    Boom, headshot.

    Sniping’s a good job, mate.

    • Jim
      Jim
      July 20, 2016, 8:24 am | # | Reply

      Challenging work, outta doors, and I guarantee you’ll not go ‘ungry.

      • Phil
        Flo
        July 20, 2016, 9:29 am | # | Reply

        As long as there’s at least two people in the world, someone’s gonna want somebody else dead.

        • Thracecius
          Thracecius
          July 20, 2016, 1:20 pm | # | Reply

          You all win for continuity in referencing one of my favorite games (TF2). :D

  31. Pit Friend
    Pit Friend
    July 20, 2016, 8:10 am | # | Reply

    Wish she had done that the first time she had the chance. Would have saved a lot of heartbreak.

  32. ThatGuy
    ThatGuy
    July 20, 2016, 8:38 am | # | Reply

    That was dangerous but i’m really glad he got to see who killed him, realize that they outsmarted him,and know he was completely helpless to it after all that grandstanding

  33. Amaster
    Amaster
    July 20, 2016, 8:56 am | # | Reply

    A+ title-text

  34. Pengwen
    Pengwen
    July 20, 2016, 9:38 am | # | Reply

    JJ threatened her mother. You could see the look of shock on her face when he did so over the initial Skype. She protected what was dearest to her, and she did it in the only way that could make sure to protect her. So yeah. This was perfect.

  35. Mordecai
    Mordecai
    July 20, 2016, 10:00 am | # | Reply

    And then she stays and explains to the police that he was hunting them, and, quite legitimately, that he was raising his weapon to fire. She’s in the public eye, everything she has to say is in the public eye, amidst a sensationalist story that will make sure EVERYONE is paying attention (Hunted Reporter Caps Contract Cop Killer!!!) and impossible for Carol to bury. And suddenly so many more people are digging and asking questions.

    …is how this SHOULD go down from this point forward.

    • Nessus
      Nessus
      July 20, 2016, 7:43 pm | # | Reply

      This. With the cops eyes shining hard on things now, this is her best opportunity to push things into the open.

      Even if her info and testimony isn’t enough to cinch a court case, it’s enough to get the cops investigating Hurricane HARD. And even if it scuttles her ability to to write an investigative piece now (don’t think it does), she’s already got enough for a solid book deal down the line.

  36. Dr-Calamity
    Dr-Calamity
    July 20, 2016, 10:43 am | # | Reply

    Play of the Game: SHANNA as Mcree

    • Gargant Viridian
      Gargant Viridian
      July 20, 2016, 11:07 am | # | Reply

      It’s HIGH NOON.

    • Danzin
      Danzin
      July 20, 2016, 12:28 pm | # | Reply

      Heheh, JJ’s face in panel 1 = When you get stuck in a Junk Rat trap and hear “It’s hiiiigh nooon…”

  37. John Haslach
    John Haslach
    July 20, 2016, 11:31 am | # | Reply

    That was for Kaye, you son of a bitch!!!

  38. deftTitan
    deftTitan
    July 20, 2016, 12:19 pm | # | Reply

    The alt text today is one of the best in the series!!!

  39. Danzin
    Danzin
    July 20, 2016, 12:24 pm | # | Reply

    P’TOOIE!!!

    JJ {in StrongBad Stinkoman voice}: Ow! My eye! It’s in my eye! It hurts SO BAD!!

    Shanna: Well folks, you know what that means. Now I do a dance {shimmies & shakes to 1930’s cheesy organ}

  40. Dain
    Dain
    July 20, 2016, 12:40 pm | # | Reply

    IT’S HIIIIIIGH NOON

  41. Wong Zhou
    Wong Zhou
    July 20, 2016, 2:01 pm | # | Reply

    Well, what’d he drop?

    • wolfpax
      wolfpax
      July 21, 2016, 7:05 am | # | Reply

      50 cents, a vendor trash gun, and the corpse of a killer. Somehow he didn’t have kidneys, so no progress on the “Chinese Black Market” quest line.

      • Tsapki
        Tsapki
        July 22, 2016, 5:41 am | # | Reply

        Guess you’ll need to run the quest again for the moustache drop.

  42. Seggs
    Seggs
    July 20, 2016, 2:21 pm | # | Reply

    1:22pm. Done

  43. Psolo Ghoti
    Psolo Ghoti
    July 20, 2016, 5:35 pm | # | Reply

    Before I started scrolling down, I just saw a little more blank space than usual under the first two panels, and I was like “What? Wait! We get a two-panel update? You pull a cliffhanger now? Is this the endofthechapterFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUU–”

    And then, all was well.

  44. Professor Fate
    Professor Fate
    July 20, 2016, 6:51 pm | # | Reply

    Nice one, Shanna. Head shots aren’t that easy, so she’s been practicing. Of course Mr. Moustache there was leaking quite a bit and movin’ kinda slow, but still, a fitting end for that roach. Yes, students, that’s brain tissue and cerebrospinal fluid spraying from the exit wound which pretty much puts a -30- on that joker. People have been shot through the heart and continued fighting, but a headshot is forever. It’s a clear case of self defense, but if it was me, I’d just stroll away.

    Enemies lessen with a Smith and Wesson. :D

    • Edward
      Edward
      July 21, 2016, 12:08 am | # | Reply

      I did three years as an RN in a Neurosurgery Intensive Care Unit. We had an 80-ish year old guy who had gotten a diagnosis of pancreatic cancer. He got a second opinion and a confirmation. After that second doctor visit, he drove home, went into his garage, pulled out an antique Colt .45, placed it under his chin, and pulled the trigger. The bullet went through his skull and came out the top of his head.

      He lived. Head shots aren’t 100%.

      After a few weeks in ICU he got transferred to the floor. I understand he never woke up, but he did get to die of pancreatic cancer.

  45. Ennio Morricone
    Ennio Morricone
    July 20, 2016, 7:26 pm | # | Reply

    Woo-eee-wooo-wuuuu….wah wah wah
    woo-eee-wooo-wuuuu…..wah wah wah!
    woo-eee-woooooooo…..wah wah wah wah
    woo-eee-wooo-wuuuu…..wah wah

  46. Lynxx
    Lynxx
    July 20, 2016, 9:00 pm | # | Reply

    i hope she doesn’t go down for vigilantism. he did raise his gun though, and he was almost certainly a cop killer so im betting theyll overlook it.

  47. Taran Alvein
    Taran Alvein
    July 20, 2016, 9:20 pm | # | Reply

    RIP Evil Gordito. You won’t be missed.

  48. Jellikal
    Jellikal
    July 21, 2016, 12:11 am | # | Reply

    Very well drawn. Impactful elegant understated powerful.

  49. Jerry
    Jerry
    July 21, 2016, 2:07 am | # | Reply

    Pfff… silly people. She didn’t shoot him!
    A swarm of “Lectric Mind-Bees” are boring into the back of his skull, so that they can turn him into walking hive and eventualy take over the world!

  50. minando
    minando
    July 21, 2016, 3:04 am | # | Reply

    It’s..huff…it’sa..me..huff…Wario! Huff…Hurk!

  51. turbomunky
    turbomunky
    July 21, 2016, 7:05 am | # | Reply

    A brilliantly observed character: charming and grotesque, down to that wonderful vanity.
    I’ll miss him, and that is a credit to your work.
    Thank you for what continues to be a fantastic saga.

    • electricdawn
      electricdawn
      July 21, 2016, 10:19 am | # | Reply

      Completely agree. Well said, sir.

  52. wolfpax
    wolfpax
    July 21, 2016, 11:33 am | # | Reply

    Just on an aside…it’s entirely possible she didn’t kill him. That kind of blood spray wouldn’t be all that crazy if she’d done something like annihilate an ear and part of the side of his head with a bullet. I’d be kind of glad if she did kill him though, it’d wrap up that part of the story thread far more neatly than ‘The Revenge of JJ”.

    • Psolo Ghoti
      Psolo Ghoti
      July 21, 2016, 5:32 pm | # | Reply

      From a storytelling perspective, I don’t think the authors and artist would frame this moment like this if it wasn’t a final moment.

      From a more realistic perspective, it wouldn’t matter that much if the shot didn’t kill him. He was already weakened, he’s starting to fall backwards, and he just dropped one of his guns (and wasn’t holding the other one). Shanna was fully prepared to kill him, and if she failed just now, she’d have a good chance to get in another shot before JJ could reach for his other gun.

      • Eric
        Eric
        July 21, 2016, 8:14 pm | # | Reply

        Pain and blood loss can be pretty debilitating, so yeah, even if not an outright fatal shot, he doesn’t have a chance of getting a shot at her without her finishing him. And in his state, he probably would get to worry about death by exsanguination anyway (head wounds bleed badly, combine that with his shoulder and arm wounds…)

  53. Eric
    Eric
    July 21, 2016, 8:09 pm | # | Reply

    At that point he was desperately hoping she would miss, or hesitate, because contrary to Hollywood, to pull and aim your gun takes far more time than it takes to just pull the trigger.

    She neither hesitated, nor missed.

    While the police may look to find who killed him, after shooting the cops, I don’t think they will look very hard. Heck, if the piece is licensed, she might well be able to just wait for the police to show up and claim justifiable homicide without any problem at all.

    If he didn’t need his brain to run his autonomic functions, from his overall display of intelligence – or lack of it – I don’t think he would have otherwise missed it.

    • random whatever
      random whatever
      July 22, 2016, 12:31 am | # | Reply

      Looks like she had drawn a bead on his head and was tracing him allready at the point Just Joe raised his arm. I say justifiable use of deadly force would not be supprised if the gamers planted camerasahead of time.

  54. Aloriena
    Aloriena
    July 22, 2016, 5:40 am | # | Reply

    I don’t know what add you all saw but I had a laugh with the Glock “Confidence is in what you carry ” add I saw at the top.

  55. JasonAW3
    JasonAW3
    July 22, 2016, 7:34 am | # | Reply

    I love the irony of his last expression. Likely the same expression of many of his victims. After all he’s done, it’s kind of obvious that it was both a justifiable homicide as well as self defense.

    • TDG
      TDG
      July 26, 2016, 7:45 am | # | Reply

      You know, that’s actually what I think I found the most interesting about that first panel. He’s always been sort of a hammy character with the big over the top mustache and everything, but with that stricken look, even with the ‘stache and everything, for a brief moment he looks human. Actually human.

      Not a comic threat, nothing over the top, in his last moments just a man struggling for his life.

      A life he reallllly doesn’t deserve at this point, so, you know, gets what’s coming and all of that, it’s just interesting things had to go this far to expose the person under all the attitude and bravado.

  56. minando
    minando
    July 23, 2016, 3:27 am | # | Reply

    Remarkable. One single gun shot gives you ato of comments. This explains so much…

    • minando
      minando
      July 23, 2016, 5:55 am | # | Reply

      a ton…

  57. MidnightDStroyer
    MidnightDStroyer
    February 22, 2017, 1:51 am | # | Reply

    “The police & the court already have the evidence, your honor. The prosecution rests, even as the defense rests in peace.”

  58. chase
    chase
    October 20, 2017, 12:27 pm | # | Reply

    This may sound morbid, but from an artistic point of view: this page is my favorite.

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